Comrade Biden hath spoken, paying more taxes is patriotic!

[cincy_]

It is much easier to push a huge boulder down a steep mountain than it is to try and stop it once it's half way down the mountain. At that point, the boulder goes where the boulder goes, smashes everything in its path and then comes to a rest, and there is nothing anyone is going to do about it except help clean up the mess.

And Monica was Bubba's little bitch. Remember? The one he brought to the White House to suck him off while he smoked pu$$y dipped cigars. He's all class that guy!

This isn't PHYSICS ... this is denial. Someone becomes President and doesn't do shit for 8 years because of momentum and inertia? Give me a fucking break ... he didn't do shit because he liked the "fake prosperity" ... though he wasn't smart enough to understand that it was fake.

As for Bubba ... scroll up and read what I wrote ... and search my posts ... I have always said that Bubba is a criminal and a perjurer.

 

[bilbal]

This isn't PHYSICS ... this is denial. Someone becomes President and doesn't do shit for 8 years because of momentum and inertia? Give me a fucking break ... he didn't do shit because he liked the "fake prosperity" ... though he wasn't smart enough to understand that it was fake.

As for Bubba ... scroll up and read what I wrote ... and search my posts ... I have always said that Bubba is a criminal and a perjurer.

The underworkings of the American economy are not something you turn on and off like a faucet, you seem to think all of this stuff could've just stopped on a dime by Bush picking up the phone and telling everyone to stop. If that's the case, you have no idea how the economy or the government actually works. You should search Google and Stupi-pedia some more so that you feel educated.

 

[Preussen]

The underworkings of the American economy are not something you turn on and off like a faucet,

This is certainly true. But if you really think that it's impossible to make significant changes in eight years then perhaps you should do some more research.

 

[cincy_]

The underworkings of the American economy are not something you turn on and off like a faucet, you seem to think all of this stuff could've just stopped on a dime by Bush picking up the phone and telling everyone to stop. If that's the case, you have no idea how the economy or the government actually works. You should search Google and Stupi-pedia some more so that you feel educated.

... Bushie picks up the phone and tells everyone and stop? He had EIGHT YEARS ... not 10 minutes ... geez .. you're naive if you're not dumb.

LOL ... yes .. now you get personal ... on the internet, that's when you know it's GAME, SET and MATCH.

 

[bilbal]

If that's the case, then I had you at Game, Set and Match back on post #26.

Who controlled Congress most of those Bush years?

 

[bilbal]

This is certainly true. But if you really think that it's impossible to make significant changes in eight years then perhaps you should do some more research.

We're ARE making significant changes and eight years isn't here yet. What else you got?

 

[Preussen]

Who controlled Congress most of those Bush years?

What did Bush try to do that would have improved matters but was stopped by Congress?

 

[cincy_]

We're ARE making significant changes and eight years isn't here yet. What else you got?

This is the best you could come up with? When's you're in the hole, stop digging.

Of all the people to debate, you shouldn't debate Preussen ... he could run circles around your argument ... and at this rate, he'll make you cry "uncle" after a few hours ... you're not in his league, kid ... go home now.

 

[PointGiven]

Don't forget parents and connections. How many people with mediocre skills earn loads of money just because they inherited a fortune or knew people that helped them get (and hold) great jobs? I heard you can even become president without any merits just with connections. ;-)

lmfao

but they "worked so hard for what they got"

:nohead:

 

[bilbal]

This is the best you could come up with? When's you're in the hole, stop digging.

Of all the people to debate, you shouldn't debate Preussen ... he could run circles around your argument ... and at this rate, he'll make you cry "uncle" after a few hours ... you're not in his league, kid ... go home now.

I am home, thanks. Are you at work? I quit working three years ago at age 38. How about you? How is life treating you? How many homes do you own, more than 1? Do you own the one or does the bank still own most of it?

You're right, he's not anywhere near my league unless he got his MBA by 21 and cashed out at 38. But you carry on with the insults, if they make you feel better about yourself, I'm all for it.

 

[bilbal]

What did Bush try to do that would have improved matters but was stopped by Congress?

The question that needs to be asked here is What COULD Bush have done to try and improve matters? Was there ANYTHING he could've done? Let's hear the silly things you think a President can do with a wave of his magic presidential wand....

 

[cincy_]

if they make you feel better about yourself, I'm all for it.

If you really want to make me feel better, just call him UNCLE PREUSSEN and we're all set.

 

[C-Gold]

Show us under the Dumbya reign how many jobs we have gained over the Billy boy years. Not just a bunch of service slave shit, quality jobs where college is required.

They've allowed those to go overseas in record proportions.

I work in financial SERVICES and am pretty happy. I don't have to dig ditches, lay bricks or fix leaky pipes ( not that there is anything wrong with that). We are transitioning into a knowledged based economy, and most workers don't leave work with physical output. It's not like when you worked on a farm and had a busels of harvest, or a bucket of apples.

A lot of very wealthy people WILL leave this country if Obama is elected, or they WILL quit their jobs, hide income etc. Why would you even work when the government is taking over half of your money when you can just quit and still be ok ( hey, you are already rich)?

What if you went through 10 years of colleged, raked up 200k in debt, and you are making 300k to be a doctor...

Here is how your finances look after your hard work...
You owe 200k in debt
you make 300k per year

Obama wants to tax the f-ing shit out of you because you are (rich) and don't pay your fair share. This makes me so sick it isn't even funny. Taxing success, taxing hard work, taxing somebody who will help everybody. How many people will sign up to be docotrs, scientists and start businesses? You sacrafice for years, but the government takes over half of your earnings away.



The reason Bush didn't oppose all of Clintons housing programs for low income minorities, is that it is so politically incorrect for obvious reasons. Bush would be a "racist" if he opposed the FHA and other crap out there.

 

[bilbal]

I was thinking more along the lines of "brainless pinata"?

 

[cincy_]

Obama wants to tax the f-ing shit out of you because you are (rich) and don't pay your fair share. This makes me so sick it isn't even funny. Taxing success, taxing hard work, taxing somebody who will help everybody. How many people will sign up to be docotrs, scientists and start businesses? You sacrafice for years, but the government takes over half of your earnings away.

As much as you claim (and I agree) that Obama wants to tax the fucking shit out of hard work and success ...

... Bushie, McCain and the Pubs have rewarded no work and failure ... in government and in the business sector.

They're no different.

 

[C-Gold]

Stealing from the rich and calling it "patriotic".

Moratorium on Brains.

 

[C-Gold]

As much as you claim (and I agree) that Obama wants to tax the fucking shit out of hard work and success ...

... Bushie, McCain and the Pubs have rewarded no work and failure ... in government and in the business sector.

They're no different.

You have basic misunderstandings about the economy.

 

[cincy_]

You have basic misunderstandings about the economy.

Let me help you out.

I was referring to people like Donald Dumbsfeld, George Tenet, Alan Greenspan, Paul Bremer, Alberto Gonzalez and many more llike them ...

If I had known you wouldn't get it, I would have spelled it out in my previous post.

 

[Preussen]

The question that needs to be asked here is What COULD Bush have done to try and improve matters? Was there ANYTHING he could've done? Let's hear the silly things you think a President can do with a wave of his magic presidential wand....

So the President has no real influence on these things? Then why are you blaming President Clinton?

 

[bblight]

. And don't tell me they got it through hard work. One can only work so hard. Most blue collar workers work harder than any white collar worker who makes twice as much.
.

One can only work so hard. Most blue collar workers work harder than any white collar worker who makes twice as much

That's a crock of ignorant shit!

Blue collar workers decided years ago to forego the education that would have catapulted them into the ranks of the skilled and professional workforce - those poor decisions they made as teenagers and young adults have come home to haunt them.

With a few exceptions, those white collar workers sacrificed to go to college - they ran up student loan debt and many of them worked while pursuing their education.

In some cases mommy and daddy paid for all of it - but those cases tend to be more and more rare as the cost of education continues to geometrically increase.

Once on the job, those blue collar workers go to work, do their job and go home to their six pack and TV - no stress, no pressure, no long hours without extra pay and no thinking.

I'm not knocking the blue collar workers - most of them know that they are the product of their own poor decisions - but puleeeez - don't put the burden of poor decisions of the "poor" on those who haved struggled for long hours and sacrificed to make the necessary personal changes for sucess.

You'd think the left would have learned from Jimmy Carter and Bush the Senior about the impact of tax increases on the economy.

Remember the Bush luxury tax and how many businesses went under before they repealed it! Remember what it did to the economy and how tax reciepts went down instead of up as "rich" people sent and spent their money overseas.