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The difference is that if I were in Costa Rica and they entrusted me to do a job, I wouldn't be arrogant and give up thier Military secrets especially if it would put people's lives at risk. Those people who are in foreign countries have families and lives and are only doing thier jobs. I wouldn't tell Mexico (or whoever) that the CR had spies in this town or that embassy or wherever.

Whether I agree with thier foreign policy or not is irrelevant.

So you believe in the supreme authority of the US government to spy on its allies and other countries without any repercussions (diplomatic or military).

What if it was backwards, a Brazilian or German agent exposing their governments spying on the US?
 

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So you believe in the supreme authority of the US government to spy on its allies and other countries without any repercussions (diplomatic or military).

What if it was backwards, a Brazilian or German agent exposing their governments spying on the US?
I would think that they are idiots if they put thier own people at risk.


By the way, they all have spies in the US. The U.S. has spies in all of those countries too. If you don't know or believe that then you should reconsider your arguement.
 

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The difference is that if I were in Costa Rica and they entrusted me to do a job, I wouldn't be arrogant and give up thier Military secrets especially if it would put people's lives at risk. Those people who are in foreign countries have families and lives and are only doing thier jobs. I wouldn't tell Mexico (or whoever) that the CR had spies in this town or that embassy or wherever.

Whether I agree with their foreign policy or not is irrelevant.

I believe CR Foreign Policy is just "Leave us alone, we ain't gonna mess with you, lets just all chill, have some Guaro and enjoy the pleasant evening. " I mean....they don't even have an Army...do they?
 
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I would think that they are idiots if they put thier own people at risk.


By the way, they all have spies in the US. The U.S. has spies in all of those countries too. If you don't know or believe that then you should reconsider your arguement.

Well they are yet to be exposed... so are you saying the NSA with all those tools has not exposed them and making a valid argument of its spying being validated as counter intelligence? Especially with the whole "Snowden fiasco"?
 

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By the way, they all have spies in the US. The U.S. has spies in all of those countries too. If you don't know or believe that then you should reconsider your arguement.

Which would have been my response to scottcarter re: all the stuff he cited, like, "everything you mention there those governments couldn't have been surprised by, like, if they were surprised they are naive idiots...what'd they think the US would do. What are they themselves doing and/or what would they do if they could...had they the resources of the US?"

but if that'd been my response he'd have torn me a new one. Rightly so cuz his question was "how does it relate to the defense of The Bill of Rights"...for the most part.

We do need a point by point explanation from Snowden on the matters that Scott raises. Some I can see might have related to self-preservation, others it would be interesting to hear why he felt revelation of such was necessary.
 
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I would think that they are idiots if they put thier own people at risk.


By the way, they all have spies in the US. The U.S. has spies in all of those countries too. If you don't know or believe that then you should reconsider your arguement.

Putting people at risk is the lesser of 2 evils as we already know what happens with totalitarian governments across the globe... as Ba'al put it 0-12 on the world history books!
 

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Figueres broke a wall with a mallet symbolizing the end of Costa Rica's military spirit.

Maybe thats worth a shot here in USA. Imma go borrow the neighbor's mallet and use it to knock down a wall and if it brings an end to USA's military spirit you'll hear about it on the news.

Conversely, if it doesn't work and just results in me jacked up for Uncalled for Destruction of a Wall I'm gonna need bail $$$ and also money for the fine. Worth a shot though...I s'pose.
 

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Putting people at risk is the lesser of 2 evils as we already know what happens with totalitarian governments across the globe... as Ba'al put it 0-12 on the world history books!
You seem like a nice enough guy but with all due respect, I'm glad that you are in Costa Rica and not the US.

If you don't think that spies are not common practice by all first world countries (and some third world countries (see "the Cuba 5")), then you are naive.

I don't think that it is right to put people at risk of thier lives.

If he was that ideological then why did he flee?
 
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You seem like a nice enough guy but with all due respect, I'm glad that you are in Costa Rica and not the US.

If you don't think that spies are not common practice by all first world countries (and some third world countries (see "the Cuba 5")), then you are naive.

I don't think that it is right to put people at risk of thier lives.

If he was that ideological then why did he flee?

I never said that... I never said other countries dont spy Mikey... I just find it curious it has not been exposed since Snowden came forward.

And I wouldn't light up the fireworks just yet Mike, my goal for this year is to move to NYC (an ex gf living there will give me love and roof), and I don't mean a terrorist threat (but by NSA standards I would be put on a watchlist just because of my comments down here),

Bartending in NYC until I can afford my Harley so I can prospect with the NYC charter of the HAMC... thats all.
 

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my goal for this year is to move to NYC (an ex gf living there will give me love and roof)
Bartending in NYC until I can afford my Harley so I can prospect with the NYC charter of the HAMC... thats all.

Man you can do so much better than NYC dude. On so many levels there ain't even room enough here to type 'em all.

Cave Creek AZ or it's next door neighbor Carefree. Earnings vs. Cost Of Living wise alone you'd come out so much better tending bar in either of those places not to mention tranquility + the all important not placing yourself into a risky environment which...

in all probability you'd have to "break in" via NORTH SCOTTSDALE or even "Old Town" Scottsdale....flunky job down there for a bit before access to serious high level bar-tending, like, 5 Star World Famous Restaurant or Resort stuff where the HUGE $$$$ would be made but if you're seriously comin' back to USA you need to not Blow It the stressful Rat Race and potentially Toxic to You environs of NYC and plan instead on the place Sonny Barger himself chose:

Cave Creek AZ.

He may even have a chapter there still....may never have had a chapter actually way up there (its, like, NORTH like WAAAAY NORTH in the landscape of Phoenix Metro...)

The Man has a chapter around here somewhere....Maybe not HA, wasn't he, like, banned by The Government from involvement with HA?


Take the location of this year's Super Bowl as a Sign From God pockets.

He wants you to try Cave Creek AZ. Google Harold's Bar...its a hardcore steelers place lol.

and a great place to start your journey to realization that NYC is a bad plan when there are so much better options.
 

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I never said that... I never said other countries dont spy Mikey... I just find it curious it has not been exposed since Snowden came forward.

And I wouldn't light up the fireworks just yet Mike, my goal for this year is to move to NYC (an ex gf living there will give me love and roof), and I don't mean a terrorist threat (but by NSA standards I would be put on a watchlist just because of my comments down here),

Bartending in NYC until I can afford my Harley so I can prospect with the NYC charter of the HAMC... thats all.
So you're coming from CR to the U.S. huh?

Maybe you should re-think your "undying" ISIS/Al-Qaida pledge........




Disclaimer; if Snowden is reading this, I am saying this in jest only......
 

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Maybe you should re-think your "undying" ISIS/Al-Qaida pledge.......

Oh crap. If they weren't watching already they are now and a fuggin Omega Man-like alarm is sounding in The Bunker in Colorado.

Nice work Mike.
 

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Putting people at risk is the lesser of 2 evils as we already know what happens with totalitarian governments across the globe... as Ba'al put it 0-12 on the world history books!

you mean like modern day China? LMFAO
 
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Ba‘al Zəvûv;10958382 said:
Man you can do so much better than NYC dude. On so many levels there ain't even room enough here to type 'em all.

Cave Creek AZ or it's next door neighbor Carefree. Earnings vs. Cost Of Living wise alone you'd come out so much better tending bar in either of those places not to mention tranquility + the all important not placing yourself into a risky environment which...

in all probability you'd have to "break in" via NORTH SCOTTSDALE or even "Old Town" Scottsdale....flunky job down there for a bit before access to serious high level bar-tending, like, 5 Star World Famous Restaurant or Resort stuff where the HUGE $$$$ would be made but if you're seriously comin' back to USA you need to not Blow It the stressful Rat Race and potentially Toxic to You environs of NYC and plan instead on the place Sonny Barger himself chose:

Cave Creek AZ.

He may even have a chapter there still....may never have had a chapter actually way up there (its, like, NORTH like WAAAAY NORTH in the landscape of Phoenix Metro...)

The Man has a chapter around here somewhere....Maybe not HA, wasn't he, like, banned by The Government from involvement with HA?


Take the location of this year's Super Bowl as a Sign From God pockets.

He wants you to try Cave Creek AZ. Google Harold's Bar...its a hardcore steelers place lol.

and a great place to start your journey to realization that NYC is a bad plan when there are so much better options.

At NYC I already have a job + pussy + a roof... girl told me to arrive penny less she will take care of me and hire me as a bartender (she is a promoter)... Thats just the starting point, my plan is leaving NYC as soon as I can... maybe just acquire the bike up there or save enough and move to the south like you suggest.

Sonny is not banned to wear the coat or the 81 colors, he is still a member but not a president (at least not in paper, but everyone knows he is the main guy). And yes, he is a patched member of Cave Creek, AZ after he moved away from Oakland! You sir, know your stuff!!!

The sheriff of AZ gives the creeps lol but him being racist and me being as white as Larry Bird I'm not that big of a target lol.

Hey man thx for the input!
 
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Ba‘al Zəvûv;10958388 said:
Oh crap. If they weren't watching already they are now and a fuggin Omega Man-like alarm is sounding in The Bunker in Colorado.

Nice work Mike.

Oh fuck, where is my tin foil hat????!

They will use HAARP to extract my memories!
 
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So you're coming from CR to the U.S. huh?

Maybe you should re-think your "undying" ISIS/Al-Qaida pledge........




Disclaimer; if Snowden is reading this, I am saying this in jest only......


Bro cmon thats harsh... fuck Al Qaeda and fuck ISIS
 

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They will use HAARP to extract my memories!

They've already begun that.

Or is the shot below....you now, heading to work as photo'd from a San Jose Traffic Cam? The door I got into Diabla is intercept all with no delineation of the source so could be from the dark recesses of your mind or could be from a camera:

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Nice Helmet by the way.

Who says "you hate USA"?

Thats obviously not the case.

That helmet might actually save us all lol. Show us to be true Patriots.

Or at least you.

We all need to get a deflated football now....and keep it at our side cuze MikeB has caused the curtain to get lifted lol.
 
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Ba‘al Zəvûv;10958427 said:
Nice Helmet by the way.

Who says "you hate USA"?

Thats obviously not the case.

That helmet might actually save us all lol. Show us to be true Patriots.

Or at least you.

We all need to get a deflated football now....and keep it at our side cuze MikeB has caused the curtain to get lifted lol.

Hey... the reasoning seems to be if I like Snowden or what he supposedly stands for then I must hate USA, Americans and I'm a member of Al Qaeda and ISIS. JesusFUCKINGchrist!

In the meanwhile, drones are chasing my ass in the streets of San Jose, peaceful country gone to shit thanks to MikeB
 

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