where have I heard this before, oh yaaaaa
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Your productive capacity and loans were handy though.
Great Britain was financially bust by 1941 because you guys wanted payments in cash up front for goods.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4757181.stm
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=372591
Great Britain was financially bust by 1941 because you guys wanted payments in cash up front for goods.
You guys DID finally get your shit together by 1942, but by that time the real crisis was over.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4757181.stm
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=372591
The 5th of December 1941 was the biggest turning point in the war, the final battle for Moscow and you guys weren't even in the damn thing yet.
If that was the turning point why did the US have to invade Europe 3 years later. I thought you said the Russkies took care of Germany. Yes the Russkies did their share against Germany but don’t tell me they were solely responsible for beating Germany. Had Hitler been satisfied with Europe and not gotten greedy Germany might have still been in power today.
And if the Japs hadn't bombed the shit out of your Pacific fleet at Pearl two days later you might NEVER have entered the war.
And then you declared war on Japan, but NOT Germany.
Correct on one point, maybe correct on the other. Yes the US declared war on Japan and not Germany. You see Japan attacked the US the Germans didn’t. When Japan aligned with Germany and Italy then the US had no choice. Defeating one without defeating the other two would not have solved the problem. Sooner or later Briton would have needed help and since they are an ally the US would have come to their aid.
Learn some history please.
Also if history is accurate I believe the US had to get involved in little skirmish about 30 years prior with the same country, it think it was called WWI. So you can take your holy than thou attitude and stick it in your ear.
Yes that’s what I suggested. In order to over throw a country you need superior forces. That is how Germany took Europe. In order for Europe to take back their continent they would have needed the necessary arsenal of weapons. That would mean factories and people to man those factories. Somehow I don’t think the Germans would have allowed that. Had Hitler not attacked Russia and stayed away from the British he would have been home free. I see no reason why Germany, if left alone could not have ruled Europe till this day. As for Japan it took 2 nukes before they gave it up. It’s imposable to develop that type of technology when you’re being occupied.
Overthrowing a country is certainly possible with superior forces, as has been demonstrated for time immemorial.
However, maintaining control & order in the taken country has never proven to last very long. And certainly no one country has had sufficient muscle to both overthrow and to maintain long term control of multiple conquests - at least not in the past 10+ centuries.
The reason why "Germany if left alone could not have ruled Europe to this day" is quite simply because 95% of the conquered population in multiple countries would be investing their entire life's mission into derailing the hostile invaders.
It would be much akin to the US saying, "we have superior forces" (fact) so we will invade and take over Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon and Syria.
How long do you think the US could maintain control with said "superior forces"?
A clue would be to look at how well we're "controlling" a single country - Iraq - with a population less than 1/10th that of the USA.
However, maintaining control & order in the taken country has never proven to last very long. And certainly no one country has had sufficient muscle to both overthrow and to maintain long term control of multiple conquests - at least not in the past 10+ centuries.
The reason why "Germany if left alone could not have ruled Europe to this day" is quite simply because 95% of the conquered population in multiple countries would be investing their entire life's mission into derailing the hostile invaders.
It would be much akin to the US saying, "we have superior forces" (fact) so we will invade and take over Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon and Syria.
How long do you think the US could maintain control with said "superior forces"?
A clue would be to look at how well we're "controlling" a single country - Iraq - with a population less than 1/10th that of the USA.
Agreed.
The Normandy invasion likely sped up the German collapse which would have followed within perhaps a year at most as they would simply have been unable to maintain control of France while also trying to keep Austria, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Poland in proper order.
The Normandy invasion likely sped up the German collapse which would have followed within perhaps a year at most as they would simply have been unable to maintain control of France while also trying to keep Austria, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Poland in proper order.
Damn, then why did FDR waste so many American lives?
Fucking lying piece of shit (that'll be FDR)
I was thinking along the lines of D Day as opposed the over all theater. My bad. Having said that I don’t agree with your assertion that US involvement was negligible. The term negligible refers to the quantities so small that they can be ignored (neglected) when studying the larger effect.
On D-Day, the Allies landed around 156,000 troops in Normandy. The American forces landed numbered 73,000: 23,250 on Utah Beach, 34,250 on Omaha Beach, and 15,500 airborne troops. In the British and Canadian sector, 83,115 troops were landed (61,715 of them British): 24,970 on Gold Beach, 21,400 on Juno Beach, 28,845 on Sword Beach, and 7900 airborne troops. That along with US forces already fighting in Italy and Northern Africa was hardly negligible.
Germany had formally declared war on the USA.
It certainly made sense to step up the pace in smashing them down to size.
My earlier comments were not intended to denounce the US involvement in Europe during WWII, but rather to note that Germany would have been unsuccessful in maintaining control of multiple European nations even if the US had stayed on this side of the Atlantic.
Well it kinda means you shouldn't turn down a usable gift just because an inspection of the teeth might show it to be a bit worn around the edges.
In this case, the Heinekens would be fresh out of the tap as I presume all reputable Vegas bartenders keep their supply from getting stale.
In the words of the Judge in Caddyshack to his nephew Spalding, "You'll catch a buzz on Heineken and you'll Like It!!"
In this case, the Heinekens would be fresh out of the tap as I presume all reputable Vegas bartenders keep their supply from getting stale.
In the words of the Judge in Caddyshack to his nephew Spalding, "You'll catch a buzz on Heineken and you'll Like It!!"
