CatsOverUnders OFFICIAL tracking thread 2013

[CatsOverUnders]

You know the line should have been 100.5... Sharps and public bets would have been all OVER the OVER.... and would have cashed easily as you can see!!

Hahaha very true. See, posts like this and StevieRay's that rightfully harp on my excessive, way-too-long writing and make a legitimate funny joke out of... these are quality posts I can laugh at.

By the way NFLTrends, nice work again this week, as usual. It actually made me feel a little more comfortable when I saw you had the Giants last night also.

 

[eventhorizon]

Thank you goblue for pointing out win % does not always mean money won. If you charted ROI on cats it would look worse. You see people laying big money lines in baseball all the time and claiming nice win %. Keep up the good work Blue.k:

 

[GoBlue34]

I stand by my tracked record, even said I would wager Cats tracking is wrong. I said I would stake my $2,000 against Cats $100 (we can send the money to Defying to hold) and a mod could track all the plays and I GUARANTEEEEEE Cats record (especially his total) is not correct. All he has to be is 100% correct on his tracking through week 6 and I lose $2,000.

If I win, the $100 will be donated to the rx and I will run a $100 contest for everyone else.

So Cats, you are 100% sure I am slandering you, why not add $2,000 to your bankroll? Win this wager and you are up $2015 for this week. Deal?

 

[Defying]

Thank you goblue for pointing out win % does not always mean money won. If you charted ROI on cats it would look worse. You see people laying big money lines in baseball all the time and claiming nice win %. Keep up the good work Blue.k:

your first post is this??

A winning bettor is a winning bettor, although I agree that ROI is much more important, if someone is winning then they are doing something right

 

[Defying]

I stand by my tracked record, even said I would wager Cats tracking is wrong. I said I would stake my $2,000 against Cats $100 (we can send the money to Defying to hold) and a mod could track all the plays and I GUARANTEEEEEE Cats record (especially his total) is not correct. All he has to be is 100% correct on his tracking through week 6 and I lose $2,000.

If I win, the $100 will be donated to the rx and I will run a $100 contest for everyone else.

So Cats, you are 100% sure I am slandering you, why not add $2,000 to your bankroll? Win this wager and you are up $2015 for this week. Deal?

Blue, let it go. I understand you feel strongly about this, but your point has been made. And no way am I getting involved in a wager of this kind... If you see cats make another error in the FUTURE please point it out, and it will be dealt with.

 

[GoBlue34]

Blue, let it go. I understand you feel strongly about this, but your point has been made. And no way am I getting involved in a wager of this kind... If you see cats make another error in the FUTURE please point it out, and it will be dealt with.

THANK YOU DEFYING for your thoughtful and well spoken response. I've always liked you as a mod and held you in high regard as a poster. I take your wisdom to heart and appreciate you posting.

You make sense unlike SOME people that are just looking for attention, some might of not even gone to college. Now I'm just adding some filler words to make this post long for no reason other than people might not read it. I will start a new paragraph shortly just because I want to and so people keep reading. So if you are still reading, I'm going to add a paragraph.

Like I said, this is a new paragraph and I'm going to type nonsense and I might even USE CAPS randomly for no good reason. Also might throw in an underline for no reason and then continue on even though many people will skip over this.

But I understand Defying, I will continue to only track his record from this point forward, a true record that is.

Again, thanks for all you do on the best forum ever. #ever #lovethisplace #gambling #I'm100%ontheseason #I'mout

 

[StevieRay]

:ears: haha like i said before, this beats any Seinfeld reruns

 

[Betallsports]

Not that I went through Everything. But I did read apart of something Cats had said.

Unless I'm misunderstanding what he wrote

If you Post a Play... in this case a 13pt 4 Team teaser. That is the Lines you Get. If the Line moves during the week or Saturday Night or Sunday Morning... Those are NOT the lines you get.

I'll go back and see if I mis-read what you wrote

 

[Betallsports]

Uh, you still have the WRONG RECORD. HOW ARE YOU NOT BANNED YET? YOU PURPOSELY KEEP TRACK OF A WRONG RECORD and somehow get away with this? This is so ridiculous and I'm sick of you slandering my name every single week.

You've been continually keeping track of a WRONG record for WEEKS now just to make me look bad. Mods, HOW is he allowed to get away with this week after week? What else does he even contribute to the forums except publicly BASH me and add incorrect "losses" to my record?? If I did something like this, I'd be banned in a second!

Can a MOD PLEASE JUSTIFY THIS TO ME??

Someone? Anybody?

P.S. Hey douche, lines are allowed to change throughout the morning. Do you have any clue? Or do you think lines remain the same all week? Are you legitimately retarded? Originally, the ATL/TB over/under was an even 42.5, meaning it would be 55.5 in a four-team teaser. Then right before game time, it went up to 43, meaning it would be 56 in a four-team teaser... and guess what, IT DIDN'T EVEN MATTER because if a game "ties" in a teaser, it loses. So 55.5 and 56 in a four-team teaser are the SAME THING ANYWAY!

Mods? Now he blatantly accuses me of cheating when that's obviously not the case. More slander. More libel. This wouldn't even look good in a court. And this is all he contributes to the NFL Forum. Why is he allowed to get away with this?

Mods? Is someone going to do something about this finally?

So this is what I was Talking about.

Not sure if you Posted the Teaser with What line ?

 

[Bluelaker]

He's a piece of shit wannabe tout. Almost every word he types is a lie or an attempted sale. "In depth analysis". That's funny.....what's so in depth about buying 3 points in a total??

 

[CatsOverUnders]

There is no "slander" taking place here. Especially since "slander" is any defamation that is spoken & heard.

Since the poster in question is an anonymous character (who makes stuff up as a manner of course) and thus no actual damage to a name or reputation could be shown, you are not being "slandered" in any manner, shape for form.

Incorrect. Many people here know my real name, and a poster here makes incorrect points/statements that could easily do damage to said name and reputation. That's slander/libel.

I stand by my tracked record, even said I would wager Cats tracking is wrong. I said I would stake my $2,000 against Cats $100 (we can send the money to Defying to hold) and a mod could track all the plays and I GUARANTEEEEEE Cats record (especially his total) is not correct. All he has to be is 100% correct on his tracking through week 6 and I lose $2,000.

If I win, the $100 will be donated to the rx and I will run a $100 contest for everyone else.

So Cats, you are 100% sure I am slandering you, why not add $2,000 to your bankroll? Win this wager and you are up $2015 for this week. Deal?

Ive already told you I WOULD make that bet concerning my win-loss record, considering I know you intentionally butchered it just to try and make me look bad. As for the $$ amount, like I've said, I've heard four or five different amounts that have me being $20-$40 off so I wouldn't be shocked if there was a small mistake made in my math. But over a $20 difference, I'm not searching through seven weeks and god-knows-how-many pages of this non-sense to see where it was... for freaking $20. But I know for a fact that I'm 60-40-1 so if you want to bet that, since you have a different record, let's bet on tha for sure.

 

[CatsOverUnders]

Not that I went through Everything. But I did read apart of something Cats had said.

Unless I'm misunderstanding what he wrote

If you Post a Play... in this case a 13pt 4 Team teaser. That is the Lines you Get. If the Line moves during the week or Saturday Night or Sunday Morning... Those are NOT the lines you get.

I'll go back and see if I mis-read what you wrote

Correct, Betall, but that doesn't apply to this situation. Early Sunday morning when I put in my first teaser consisting of that game, the spread was 42.5, making it 55.5 in a four-game teaser. Hours later right before game time, the spread went up to 43, making it 56 in a teaser... regardless, 55.5 and 56 are the same exact thing in a teaser because if it landed on exactly 56, I would've lost both anyway, since a push in a teaser loses the whole bet. GoBlue, unsurprisingly, is just incredibly desperate to try and make me look bad, and it's starting to creep me out, actually, that he spends THIS much time obsessing over me.

 

[eventhorizon]

Defying... I was not attempting to bash cats. I have no intention of giving a reply on his thread. I just think it is a little misleading to just use win% when you are laying -130 and more. It is tough to make a profit betting and I think he is doing well, "the best and god like", I am not so sure about that.

 

[QUEENOFHEARTS]

Correct, Betall, but that doesn't apply to this situation. Early Sunday morning when I put in my first teaser consisting of that game, the spread was 42.5, making it 55.5 in a four-game teaser. Hours later right before game time, the spread went up to 43, making it 56 in a teaser... regardless, 55.5 and 56 are the same exact thing in a teaser because if it landed on exactly 56, I would've lost both anyway, since a push in a teaser loses the whole bet. GoBlue, unsurprisingly, is just incredibly desperate to try and make me look bad, and it's starting to creep me out, actually, that he spends THIS much time obsessing over me.

Actually that is not true.

This player might want to understand how a teaser works before proceeding.
55' and 56 are not the same. 56 is a push at their book and it refunds the wager on a two teamer. If it was a three teamer then it would reduce to two teamer.


** directly from this players shop**

[h=2]Teasers[/h]A teaser can only be played in football and basketball. The teaser is 1 wager consisting of 2 or more propositions in which you are allowed to adjust the point spread in your favor. If there is ANY loss in a teaser, the entire teaser results in a loss!! Otherwise, if the teaser contains a push, no action, or tie, the teaser will revert to the next amount of teams, paying the odds of the new teaser. In the case of a two-team teaser, if there is a push, no action, or tie, the wager will be refunded.

 

[varkeyboy]

Bunch of drama queens, LOL. Have fun arguing guys.

 

[CatsOverUnders]

Actually that is not true.

This player might want to understand how a teaser works before proceeding.
55' and 56 are not the same. 56 is a push at their book and it refunds the wager on a two teamer. If it was a three teamer then it would reduce to two teamer.


** directly from this players shop**

Teasers

A teaser can only be played in football and basketball. The teaser is 1 wager consisting of 2 or more propositions in which you are allowed to adjust the point spread in your favor. If there is ANY loss in a teaser, the entire teaser results in a loss!! Otherwise, if the teaser contains a push, no action, or tie, the teaser will revert to the next amount of teams, paying the odds of the new teaser. In the case of a two-team teaser, if there is a push, no action, or tie, the wager will be refunded.

Lol excuse me? Are you actually doubting me on bets I've lost because of that exact reason? Haha if that's the case, why would I score them as losses in the first place? Duh, because they were scored as losses on my book (Although I absolutely wish that rule was applied on my book. That would be incredible). Go dig through my archives - I've single-handedly LOST teasers (Four-game ones) that I posted on here where one of the four games pushed, which ended up costing the whole bet. It's possible you're referring to two-game ones and (I believe) three-game ones, as I know the two-gamers DO score a push as a push for the whole bet, while three-game ones also have the same result (If I remember correctly with three-game teasers; I don't often do those).

Your book probably has a different rule, albeit a very rare one that I've never seen or heard of anywhere else (In fact, I've posted about 90 NFL teaser bets during my time here and I've never had one person say that if a game pushes in a four-game teaser, it reverts to the other game. Not once). And that's certainly a rule I'd LOVE for my book to have, as I'd say off the top of my head, I've lost at least two or three teasers over these past couple of years thanks to ONE game that DID push... but they scored those teasers a complete loss. Ugh, frustrates me that some books even have a rule like that when most don't. Probably would have saved me a $100 from those losses.

 

[CatsOverUnders]

Defying... I was not attempting to bash cats. I have no intention of giving a reply on his thread. I just think it is a little misleading to just use win% when you are laying -130 and more. It is tough to make a profit betting and I think he is doing well, "the best and god like", I am not so sure about that.

See, THIS is why I hate threads like these. Have you even ever been into one of my threads? Or are you just going off based on what one person [incorrectly] said? And it's this type of stuff that frustrates me beyond end because I can't stand reading blatantly wrong incorrect items about me.

One, I am not only "laying -130 or more." That's ridiculous. How about you - hmm, I don't know - actually go into my threads and examine everything for yourself? I do teasers, that are -130. I do over/unders and sides, most of which are -110 (And when I buy point(s) sometimes, it becomes -120, -130, etc.). I do props and second halves, which are almost always -110 or -115. But to just say my % is only off that? C'maawwwnn, mann.

Two, go into the actual thread. SEE that I actually provide a breakdown of each bet. If anything, the "fluff" that is props and teasers actually BRINGS DOWN my astounding winning percentage. In other words, if you go by just my sides record, what is it? Oh, 9-5. And if you want to include last year's regular season and postseason, I'm an absolutely terrific 26-13-2 (66.6%). Or if you want to go by my plain old over/unders record, that now sits at 16-10-1 (61.5%) for the year. Last season? 48-39-2 (55.2%)

Actually, you might be on to something. My -130 teasers/props ARE in fact misleading... if you take those out of the equation, my winning % is actually HIGHER, since my combined sides and over/unders record this year is 25-15-1 (62.5%). Maybe I should just start promoting that in my thread titles. Hmmm

But in any case, now you know.

 

[Acebb]

Incorrect. Many people here know my real name, and a poster here makes incorrect points/statements that could easily do damage to said name and reputation. That's slander/libel.

Laughable.

Take that to court then champ.

Please.
@)

OH, and as a point of fact: slander is when you can actually show damages. Not "could"

You might want to stop now. Because you have no clue what you're talking about.

 

[GoBlue34]

You might want to stop now. Because you have no clue what you're talking about.

Finally some sense in this thread to Cats.

My record is correct, Cats isn't end of story. Will update the new CORRECT record after week 8. Good luck Cats!

Oh one final comment the reason Cats book has different rules is because it's run by a cousin of a friend of a uncle's brother that Cats gets to play at. Different props, different rules and they don't kick out winners.

 

[Acebb]

YTD 59-41. 59% and can't dismiss having a profit of $132. One of the best touts in the world is up $132 through 7 weeks in the NFL.

@)

So in other words, when you divide the "profit" by the # of wins over .500 he averages $7.30 per win. And, he's bragging about this.
Bragging.

Let me add: it is obvious and inarguable that someone who bets the volume of this cats character places other wagers that are not posted here. High volume people can not stop themselves.
So it is quite clear he's lost a ton of money in 2013. A ton.