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My own theory is that if you judge others, you damn yourself.

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also did the biblical god create the earth or was it already here?

what about all the dinosaurs and other stuff?

did the biblical god just take his sweet time getting around to making man?
 
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Buddhism and Hinduism aren't religions. Islam, simply stated, has mis-interpreted a key OT passage in the Bible involving Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and the relationship between His people, thus have provided a path to God that doesn't even exist.

The Bible, containing the Old and New Covenants, are the only true covenants from God and there's plenty of physical evidence to support this.

HUH?

So much mis-information on here.

Buddhism and Hinduism are indeed religions. I would say they
are false religions, but religions nonetheless.


<table style="width: 90%;" class="wikitable"><tbody><tr><td>#</td> <td>Religion</td> <td>Number of Adherents </td> </tr> <tr> <td>1</td> <td>Christianity</td> <td>1.9 billion</td> </tr> <tr> <td>2</td> <td>Islam</td> <td>1.1 billion</td> </tr> <tr> <td>3</td> <td>Hinduism</td> <td>781 million</td> </tr> <tr> <td>4</td> <td>Buddhism</td> <td>324 million</td> </tr> <tr> <td>5</td> <td>Sikhism</td> <td>19 million</td> </tr> <tr> <td>6</td> <td>Judaism</td> <td>14 million</td> </tr> <tr> <td>7</td> <td>Bahá'í Faith</td> <td>6.1 million</td> </tr> <tr> <td>8</td> <td>Confucianism</td> <td>5.3 million</td> </tr> <tr> <td>9</td> <td>Jainism</td> <td>4.9 million</td> </tr> <tr> <td>10</td> <td>Shinto</td> <td>2.8 million</td></tr></tbody></table>
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There is no evidence that the bible is true. This is completely wrong. Try finding some writing about Jesus. This whole fairy tale was conjured up to justify our existence. There are no magical books. I just can't believe how dumb these people look with their magic that happened thousands of years ago.

Your post doesn't even make sense. Your sentences aren't even connected to one another to make a point. "Try finding some writing about Jesus"? What does that mean? Try finding some writing about Jesus... AND... I'm waiting to hear what the rest of that sentence says! I'd be willing to bet my life that I've studied the Bible and understand theology far better than you ever will.

You'd probably be surprised to hear that it clearly states in the Bible that it's in the very nature of Man to NOT believe in God, so I'm not surprised, nor do I even blame you, for not being a believer at this time in your life. Man has and will ALWAYS live in rebellion against God, it's simply the way we were created. If you want to understand exactly WHY God would choose to create Man in such a fashion, you'll have to open a Bible to find out. Until He elects to create this desire in your soul, however, it will not happen, and until then, you will remain spiritually dead, a state we're all initially born in.
 
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I don't actually have an opinion on ANYONE.

Just me.

Judging the souls of others is not our purpose.

Anyone who believes he can judge the soul of another person doesn't really believe in God.

I agree with you 100% eek. It is not our job to judge
people's souls.
 

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My own theory is that if you judge others, you damn yourself.

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now we got two christians judging each other :lolBIG:

think i'm done
 
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There is no evidence that the bible is true. This is completely wrong. Try finding some writing about Jesus. This whole fairy tale was conjured up to justify our existence. There are no magical books. I just can't believe how dumb these people look with their magic that happened thousands of years ago.

Hey troll,

I answered this BS a week ago, go back and read it troll-boy.
 
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Your post doesn't even make sense. Your sentences aren't even connected to one another to make a point. "Try finding some writing about Jesus"? What does that mean? Try finding some writing about Jesus... AND... I'm waiting to hear what the rest of that sentence says! I'd be willing to bet my life that I've studied the Bible and understand theology far better than you ever will.

You'd probably be surprised to hear that it clearly states in the Bible that it's in the very nature of Man to NOT believe in God, so I'm not surprised, nor do I even blame you, for not being a believer at this time in your life. Man has and will ALWAYS live in rebellion against God, it's simply the way we were created. If you want to understand exactly WHY God would choose to create Man in such a fashion, you'll have to open a Bible to find out. Until He elects to create this desire in your soul, however, it will not happen, and until then, you will remain spiritually dead, a state we're all initially born in.

hippie,

I answered this troll on this exact issue a week ago, he refuses to listen.
 

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HUH?

So much mis-information on here.

Buddhism and Hinduism are indeed religions. I would say they
are false religions, but religions nonetheless.


<TABLE class=wikitable style="WIDTH: 90%"><TBODY><TR><TD>#</TD><TD>Religion</TD><TD>Number of Adherents </TD></TR><TR><TD>1</TD><TD>Christianity</TD><TD>1.9 billion</TD></TR><TR><TD>2</TD><TD>Islam</TD><TD>1.1 billion</TD></TR><TR><TD>3</TD><TD>Hinduism</TD><TD>781 million</TD></TR><TR><TD>4</TD><TD>Buddhism</TD><TD>324 million</TD></TR><TR><TD>5</TD><TD>Sikhism</TD><TD>19 million</TD></TR><TR><TD>6</TD><TD>Judaism</TD><TD>14 million</TD></TR><TR><TD>7</TD><TD>Bahá'í Faith</TD><TD>6.1 million</TD></TR><TR><TD>8</TD><TD>Confucianism</TD><TD>5.3 million</TD></TR><TR><TD>9</TD><TD>Jainism</TD><TD>4.9 million</TD></TR><TR><TD>10</TD><TD>Shinto</TD><TD>2.8 million</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups

Semantics, you as much said so yourself. Buddhism and Hinduism are philosophies, not religions. BTW, Wikipedia is not the end-all source of information despite forum users across the world thinking otherwise.
 
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and here comes the athiest judging LOL

always ends up a atheist vs. christian battle on this board.....


You are talking about religion...and actually calling someone out for judging? I'm not an atheist. I could care less if a life force exists. One thing I know, is that there are no books that give the "rules" to live by. By nature, all animals fear the unknown. That is what keeps that cute little chipmunk alive. Being scared as hell of everything he sees. Human animals are no different. We are afraid of what we don't know about. The biggest unknown is of course death. We all want to know what happens when we die. We're more afraid off death than that little chipmunk is of you. This fear begun a long time ago. This magical creator that takes us up to the afterlife gives us all a peace of mind. That's all religion is, it's a peace of mind. If that works for you than fine. I just hate the justification of wrong doing being laid on the bible.
 
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Hey troll,

I answered this BS a week ago, go back and read it troll-boy.

I remember, that post where someone said something other than Jesus that was supposed to mean Jesus but they must have forgotten his name. Your idiotic post was nothing more than a writing interperted to mean what you freaks want it to mean. Nothing more, nothing less. Up for that debate yet? How about religion? I'm all for it.
 

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You are talking about religion...and actually calling someone out for judging? I'm not an atheist. I could care less if a life force exists. One thing I know, is that there are no books that give the "rules" to live by. By nature, all animals fear the unknown. That is what keeps that cute little chipmunk alive. Being scared as hell of everything he sees. Human animals are no different. We are afraid of what we don't know about. The biggest unknown is of course death. We all want to know what happens when we die. We're more afraid off death than that little chipmunk is of you. This fear begun a long time ago. This magical creator that takes us up to the afterlife gives us all a peace of mind. That's all religion is, it's a peace of mind. If that works for you than fine. I just hate the justification of wrong doing being laid on the bible.
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sorry my bad got you confused with GTC

you sound kinda agnostic like me

but at the same time not really since you attack others beliefs

agnostic basically means i don't fucking know
 
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HUH?

So much mis-information on here.

Buddhism and Hinduism are indeed religions. I would say they
are false religions, but religions nonetheless.


<TABLE class=wikitable style="WIDTH: 90%"><TBODY><TR><TD>#</TD><TD>Religion</TD><TD>Number of Adherents </TD></TR><TR><TD>1</TD><TD>Christianity</TD><TD>1.9 billion</TD></TR><TR><TD>2</TD><TD>Islam</TD><TD>1.1 billion</TD></TR><TR><TD>3</TD><TD>Hinduism</TD><TD>781 million</TD></TR><TR><TD>4</TD><TD>Buddhism</TD><TD>324 million</TD></TR><TR><TD>5</TD><TD>Sikhism</TD><TD>19 million</TD></TR><TR><TD>6</TD><TD>Judaism</TD><TD>14 million</TD></TR><TR><TD>7</TD><TD>Bahá'í Faith</TD><TD>6.1 million</TD></TR><TR><TD>8</TD><TD>Confucianism</TD><TD>5.3 million</TD></TR><TR><TD>9</TD><TD>Jainism</TD><TD>4.9 million</TD></TR><TR><TD>10</TD><TD>Shinto</TD><TD>2.8 million</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups

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You have how many degrees? You use wikipeida for this kind of information.:ohno: Any respectable college would not allow wikipedia as a reference yet you think it's ok to prove the how many of each religion there is.

Please go back to that link and see what it says about you.:missingte
 
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Modern classifications typically list major religious groups by number of adherents, not by historical or theological notability. Most dramatically, this affects Judaism, which holds the position of "world religion" as the foundational tradition of the "Abrahamic" group, but which in terms of adherents ranks below 0.25% of world population, behind Sikhism.
The remaining four classic world religions, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism, are the largest contemporary religions by far. They each have more than 300 million adherents, more than ten times the number of the next largest organized religion (Sikhism, ca. 19 million per the Christian Science Monitor source cited below).
An example of a modern listing of "world religions" is that of the Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance, listing twelve "long established, major world religions, each with over three million followers", alphabetically:
 

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realestatepro - With all due respect, why would anyone want to engage in such a "debate" that you propose when you use the most nonsensical analogies like "keeping little chipmunks alive" to somehow make a point? Do you know how bizarre statements like that sound? I mean, seriously, before coming into a thread like this, one would think to at least take some theology classes before opening-up their mouths and leaving no doubt to the other posters as to their level of credibility on the subject. You obviously have none.
 

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"Careful study of Vatican pronouncements over the centuries shows this constant theme. During the Reformation, Rome used the inquisition to try to squash the revolt against its control. Anyone who refused to recognize Roman Catholicism as the only true church or bow to the wafer god was executed."
Exhibit A: I wish they would do that today, oh wait they dont do the execution thing anymore because its a sin to judge and execute people like that, the church screwed up, actually, through history they screw up and become corrupted constantly. Which is why its a good idea not to blindly follow the church and to think about the ideas of the church. If you disagree with the church theres a distinct non 0 chance your right and if you are youve got the fasttrack to heaven so there you go...
 
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I remember, that post where someone said something other than Jesus that was supposed to mean Jesus but they must have forgotten his name. Your idiotic post was nothing more than a writing interperted to mean what you freaks want it to mean. Nothing more, nothing less. Up for that debate yet? How about religion? I'm all for it.

Bzzzt. You are a liar. I'll post it again troll. The fact is most
historians don't dispute the historicity of Jesus of Nazareth.


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I don't know for sure. I know the history of organized religion and that is for sure BS. My point was that they dismiss things they don't want to believe but believe in god when not one ounce of proof exists for him. Hell, there is no proof that a guy named Jesus existed. No writing about Jesus talks of him in terms of now. Every writing was about him as a former. I say he's as fictional as a smart conservative.

Most scholars in the fields of biblical studies and history agree that Jesus was a Jewish teacher from Galilee who was regarded as a healer, was baptized by John the Baptist, was accused of sedition against the Roman Empire, and on the orders of Roman Governor Pontius Pilate was sentenced to death by crucifixion.[1

Early Church fathers

Early Christian sources outside the New Testament also mention Jesus and details of his life. Important texts from the Apostolic Fathers are, to name just the most significant and ancient, Clement of Rome (c. 100),<sup id="cite_ref-35" class="reference">[36]</sup> Ignatius of Antioch (c. 107-110),<sup id="cite_ref-36" class="reference">[37]</sup> and Justin Martyr.<sup id="cite_ref-37" class="reference">[38]</sup>
Perhaps the most significant Patristic sources are the early references of Papias and Quadratus (d. 124), mostly reported by Eusebius in the fourth century, which both mention eyewitnesses of Jesus’ ministry and healings who were still alive in their own time (the late first century). Papias, in giving his sources for the information contained in his (largely lost) commentaries, stated (according to Eusebius):
<dl><dd>…if by chance anyone who had been in attendance on the elders should come my way, I inquired about the words of the elders — that is, what according to the elders Andrew or Peter said, or Philip, or Thomas or James, or John or Matthew or any other of the Lord’s disciples, and whatever Aristion and the elder John, the Lord’s disciples, were saying.<sup id="cite_ref-38" class="reference">[39]</sup></dd></dl> Thus, while Papias was collecting his information (c. 90), Aristion and the elder John (who were Jesus’ disciples) were still alive and teaching in Asia minor, and Papias gathered information from people who had known them.<sup id="cite_ref-39" class="reference">[40]</sup> Another Father, Quadratus, who wrote an apology to the emperor Hadrian, was reported by Eusebius to have stated:
<dl><dd>The words of our Savior were always present, for they were true: those who were healed, those who rose from the dead, those who were not only seen in the act of being healed or raised, but were also always present, not merely when the Savior was living on earth, but also for a considerable time after his departure, so that some of them survived even to our own times.<sup id="cite_ref-40" class="reference">[41]</sup></dd></dl> By “our Savior” Quadratus means Jesus, and by “our times” it has been argued that he may refer to his early life, rather than when he wrote (117-124), which would be a reference contemporary with Papias.<sup id="cite_ref-41" class="reference">[42]</sup>

Greco-Roman sources

There are passages relevant to Christianity in the works of four major non-Christian writers of the late 1st and early 2nd centuries – Josephus, Tacitus, Suetonius, and Pliny the Younger.




Others

Thallus, of whom very little is known, wrote a history from the Trojan War to, according to Eusebius, 109 BC. No work of Thallus survives. There is one reference to Thallus having written about events beyond 109 BC. Julius Africanus, writing c. 221, while writing about the crucifixion of Jesus, mentioned Thallus. Thus:
On the whole world there pressed a most fearful darkness; and the rocks were rent by an earthquake, and many places in Judea and other districts were thrown down. This darkness Thallus, in his third book of History, calls (as appears to me without reason) an eclipse of the sun.<sup id="cite_ref-68" class="reference">[69]</sup>
Lucian, a second century Romano-Syrian satirist, who wrote in Greek, wrote:
The Christians, you know, worship a man to this day — the distinguished personage who introduced their novel rites, and was crucified on that account… You see, these misguided creatures start with the general conviction that they are immortal for all time, which explains the contempt of death and voluntary self-devotion which are so common among them; and then it was impressed on them by their original lawgiver that they are all brothers, from the moment that they are converted, and deny the gods of Greece, and worship the crucified sage, and live after his laws.<sup id="cite_ref-69" class="reference">[70]</sup>
Celsus, a late second-century critic of Christianity, accused Jesus of being a bastard child and a sorcerer.<sup id="cite_ref-70" class="reference">[71]</sup> He is quoted as saying that Jesus was a "mere man".<sup id="cite_ref-71" class="reference">[72]</sup>
The Acts of Pilate is purportedly an official document from Pilate reporting events in Judea to the Emperor Tiberius (thus, it would have been among the commentaii principis). It was mentioned by Justin Martyr, in his First Apology (c. 150) to Antoninus Pius, Marcus Aurelius, and Lucius Verus, who said that his claims concerning Jesus' crucifixion, and some miracles, could be verified by referencing the official record, the "Acts of Pontius Pilate".<sup id="cite_ref-72" class="reference">[73]</sup> With the exception of Tertullian, no other writer is known to have mentioned the work, and Tertullian's reference says that Tiberius debated the details of Jesus' life before the Roman Senate, an event that is almost universally considered absurd.<sup id="cite_ref-73" class="reference">[74]</sup> There is a later apocryphal text, undoubtedly fanciful, by the same name, and though it is generally thought to have been inspired by Justin's reference (and thus to post-date his Apology), it is possible that Justin actually mentioned this text, though that would give the work an unusually early date and therefore is not a straightforward identification.<sup id="cite_ref-74" class="reference">[75]</sup>

Jewish records

<dl><dd> Main article: Yeshu
</dd></dl> The Talmud Sanhedrin 43a, which dates to the earliest period of composition (Tannaitic period) contains the following: On the eve of the Passover, Yeshu was hanged. Forty days before the execution took place, a herald went forth and cried: "He is going forth to be stoned because he has practiced sorcery and enticed Israel to apostasy. Any one who can say anything in his favour, let him come forward and plead on his behalf." But since nothing was brought forward in his favour he was hanged on the eve of the Passover.<sup id="cite_ref-75" class="reference">[76]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-76" class="reference">[77]</sup>

 
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realestatepro - With all due respect, why would anyone want to engage in such a "debate" that you propose when you use the most nonsensical analogies like "keeping little chipmunks alive" to somehow make a point? Do you know how bizarre statements like that sound? I mean, seriously, before coming into a thread like this, one would think to at least take some theology classes before opening-up their mouths and leaving no doubt to the other posters as to their level of credibility on the subject. You obviously have none.

Exactly, the guy is a complete ignoramus with no credibility.

He has no clue what he's talking about.

He's currently the top contender in the Rubber Room for the
douche-bag of the year.
 
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realestatepro - With all due respect, why would anyone want to engage in such a "debate" that you propose when you use the most nonsensical analogies like "keeping little chipmunks alive" to somehow make a point? Do you know how bizarre statements like that sound? I mean, seriously, before coming into a thread like this, one would think to at least take some theology classes before opening-up their mouths and leaving no doubt to the other posters as to their level of credibility on the subject. You obviously have none.

It was a completely logical analogy. I was talking of fear of the unknown. Would there be a proper analogy instead of a chipmunk? I have no credibility to you because I dare talk down on your fairy tale you've built your life on. You don't want to believe that your whole life is built on a lie. Which it is.
 

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