Call For Regulation Of DFS (Daily Fantasy Sports) Grows Amid Shady Insider Trading Possibility At DraftKings

[HacheMan]

That controversy is so last month. I can't believe people are still talking about. DK and FD have way bigger problems than an employee winning 350k.

Huh?!?


The controversy from last month that everyone is still talking about, is what started it all & has brought us to the "bigger problems" DFS companies are facing.

Pats when all of this began you basically said nothing could put a dent in the DFS industry & would still strive.

Im pretty sure you've changed you're mind but it still appears you believe all of this wasn't warranted.

Just because you are honest doesn't mean that they have been & it's confusing to see you defend them so much when the proof is in the pudding.

And Chop is right (even though he meant differently), comparing sports betting percentages to DFS percentages of players taken is indeed comparing apples to oranges.

The DFS percentages give a MUCH bigger advantage...

 

[CHOPTALK]

Yep...Huge hit is HUGE understatement

Not even the slightest hit. You guys gotta stop looking at things from your perspective.
There are millions of people who would keep playing fantasy sports even if sportsbetting were 100% legal.
As a matter of fact the day sportsbetting becomes legal I bet DFS would double overnight.

There is some crossover but for the most part most people who fantasy have little to no interest in sportsbetting and those who bet sports have little to no interest in fantasy.

And people like me who happen to like both one does not take away from the other. Completely separate things where 1 has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

That would be like saying if you like Ice Cream you cant like Pizza.
Makes no sense.

 

[CHOPTALK]

If they legalized weed in all 50 states would alcohol sales go down?
Come on now.

 

[PatsFan1283]

Huh?!?


The controversy from last month that everyone is still talking about, is what started it all & has brought us to the "bigger problems" DFS companies are facing.

Pats when all of this began you basically said nothing could put a dent in the DFS industry & would still strive.

Im pretty sure you've changed you're mind but it still appears you believe all of this wasn't warranted.

Just because you are honest doesn't mean that they have been & it's confusing to see you defend them so much when the proof is in the pudding.

And Chop is right (even though he meant differently), comparing sports betting percentages to DFS percentages of players taken is indeed comparing apples to oranges.

The DFS percentages give a MUCH bigger advantage...

I never said nothing could put a dent into DFS industry. No clue where you got that.

The U.S. govt can put a dent into any industry. If the Ethan thing doesn't happen, something else just happens and dfs is still under fire. You know, because online gambling isn't really legal and all.

Publishing %s before games in a static market is a bad idea and will never happen. Not sure what about that you don't understand.

 

[PatsFan1283]

If the sites and a 3rd party regulator saying the info is protected would not be enough for you then obviously you just shouldn't play.

 

[HacheMan]

If they legalized weed in all 50 states would alcohol sales go down?
Come on now.

Now look who's comparing apples to oranges lol?

DFS is simply another form of Sports Betting.
A legal form.
A less sophisticated form.
A form better fit for amateur bettors who haven't graduated to sports betting yet.

Ive done both all of my life, and have enjoyed both, but i can tell you if sports betting is legalized, and as convenient to play daily as DFS, then i have no need or interest in DFS anymore.

Both DFS & Sports Betting rely on player injuries & matchups to determine the outcome.

Only Sports Betting contains much more detail.

Sooner or later people who are playing little league (DFS) get a taste of the big time (Sports Betting) & discover a bigger, better world.

I promise you if Sports Betting is eventually legalized, DFS will take a massive hit.

It will take time, but the more sports betting becomes available at people's finger tips, the more will convert.

Third time im using this comparison because it fits IF sports betting is legalized:

DFS = MySpace
Sports Betting = Facebook

 

[PatsFan1283]

Hache do you have equity in this site? That's the only way that post makes sense to me.

anyone that thinks attacking am efficient market is better than an inefficient one has no clue how betting/investing works.

 

[HacheMan]

Hache do you have equity in this site? That's the only way that post makes sense to me.

So you're hitting me with same type of question i did with you a while back & others have jabbed at you lol?
Thought I'd leave that alone after that one time.

But no pats i dont.

If the post above doesn't make sense to you, then you truly do have a biased opinion.

I assure you there are plenty of posters on here, as well as States & politicians, who understand it perfectly & completely agree....

 

[HacheMan]

Just want to point something else out...


Many of the concerns about DFS sites were already established long ago by most regular players who are smart enough to understand some of the things that COULD (not saying they were) be done behind closed doors to make things unfair to players.

Unfortunately, it all came out in the worst way possible.

But honestly, in the long run, its the best thing.

Regulation will hopefully ensure 100% fairness to players in the future....

 

[jensinc]

Congressman Frank Pallone Asks DFS Companies To Identify NFL Personnel Who Play

Congressman Frank Pallone is asking both DraftKings and FanDuel to provide a list of NFL personnel that have used their websites in the past year.
By Henry Buggy | Oct 23, 2015 11:39 AM EDT

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Congressman Frank Pallone is asking both DraftKings and FanDuel to provide a list of NFL personnel that have used their websites in the past year. (Photo : Getty Images)

Rep. Frank Pallone (D-N.J.) is asking two large daily fantasy sports websites to provide a list of NFL personnel that have used their websites in the past year, according to The Hill.




This all comes after DraftKings employee Ethan Haskell published sensitive material prior to rosters locking in and then won $350,000. Two weeks ago the U.S. Attorney's Office in Tampa, Fla., began an investigation delving into fantasy sports operators like FanDuel and Draftkings for violations of federal and state laws.

Well now these fantasy sports may actually be affecting the players and coaches, as Pallone sent letters to FanDuel and DraftKings asking for names of any players, coaches, referees, training personnel, team staff and even owners that had used their websites. The letter also asks to provide the amount of entry fees and the winnings for each person.



DraftKings confirmed it had received the letter and stated it was "committed to working with all relevant authorities to ensure that our industry operates in a manner that is completely transparent and fair for all consumers, so that they can continue to play the games they love," via The Hill. FanDuel has not commented publicly on this issue.

Pallone believes it is hypocritical for the NFL to partner with sites of this nature, since it generally opposes gambling. NFL personnel are allowed to play in daily fantasy leagues but are not permitted to receive more than $250 in prizes, according to Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk.

While the past couple weeks have been about DraftKings and FanDuel employees acquiring proprietary data and using it to win on rival websites, the subject seems to change to a broader question with Pallone. If a connection is found between DFS games and NFL personnel, it could end up being a major problem for both parties.

Copyright @ Headlines & Global News.

 

[CHOPTALK]

Now look who's comparing apples to oranges lol?

DFS is simply another form of Sports Betting.
A legal form.
A less sophisticated form.
A form better fit for amateur bettors who haven't graduated to sports betting yet.

Ive done both all of my life, and have enjoyed both, but i can tell you if sports betting is legalized, and as convenient to play daily as DFS, then i have no need or interest in DFS anymore.

Both DFS & Sports Betting rely on player injuries & matchups to determine the outcome.

Only Sports Betting contains much more detail.

Sooner or later people who are playing little league (DFS) get a taste of the big time (Sports Betting) & discover a bigger, better world.

I promise you if Sports Betting is eventually legalized, DFS will take a massive hit.

It will take time, but the more sports betting becomes available at people's finger tips, the more will convert.

Third time im using this comparison because it fits IF sports betting is legalized:

DFS = MySpace
Sports Betting = Facebook

You are way way off on this one Hache.
Its not even funny.
There are millions of people who like fantasy that have 0 interest in sportsbetting and vice/versa.

One is not a substitute for the other.

Fantasy sports was not invented as a work around for sports betting not being legal.

They both serve different purposes.

 

[PatsFan1283]

So you're hitting me with same type of question i did with you a while back & others have jabbed at you lol?
Thought I'd leave that alone after that one time.

But no pats i dont.

If the post above doesn't make sense to you, then you truly do have a biased opinion.

I assure you there are plenty of posters on here, as well as States & politicians, who understand it perfectly & completely agree....

Are you saying a smart analytical person would be better off sports betting than playing dfs if both were legal in 2015?

 

[CHOPTALK]

That myspace/facebook thing you just did is just off man.
No offense you just wrong on this one.

You are having a difficult time removing your personal feelings from the equation.

In order to be a good marketer you have to learn how to remove yourself.

You are not doing a good job of that.

 

[HacheMan]

That myspace/facebook thing you just did is just off man.
No offense you just wrong on this one.

You are having a difficult time removing your personal feelings from the equation.

In order to be a good marketer you have to learn how to remove yourself.

You are not doing a good job of that.

Have you & pats even stopped to think that yall are in the very minute minority?

 

[CHOPTALK]

Have you & pats even stopped to think that yall are in the very minute minority?

Im afraid to tell you that you are in the minute minority.

You are taking 2 very different things and calling it the same.

Just because they are both gambling does not make it the same.

Is Keno and sportsbetting the same?

No its not.

Just because you can factually say sports betting and DFS is both gambling does not make it the same thing.

They both have very different client bases. Yes some DFS players bet on sports, and some people who bet on sports play DFS.

But there are many of both who could not care less about the other.

 

[doubledeuce22]

Congressman Frank Pallone Asks DFS Companies To Identify NFL Personnel Who Play

Congressman Frank Pallone is asking both DraftKings and FanDuel to provide a list of NFL personnel that have used their websites in the past year.
By Henry Buggy | Oct 23, 2015 11:39 AM EDT

• 

Congressman Frank Pallone is asking both DraftKings and FanDuel to provide a list of NFL personnel that have used their websites in the past year. (Photo : Getty Images)

Rep. Frank Pallone (D-N.J.) is asking two large daily fantasy sports websites to provide a list of NFL personnel that have used their websites in the past year, according to The Hill.




This all comes after DraftKings employee Ethan Haskell published sensitive material prior to rosters locking in and then won $350,000. Two weeks ago the U.S. Attorney's Office in Tampa, Fla., began an investigation delving into fantasy sports operators like FanDuel and Draftkings for violations of federal and state laws.

Well now these fantasy sports may actually be affecting the players and coaches, as Pallone sent letters to FanDuel and DraftKings asking for names of any players, coaches, referees, training personnel, team staff and even owners that had used their websites. The letter also asks to provide the amount of entry fees and the winnings for each person.



DraftKings confirmed it had received the letter and stated it was "committed to working with all relevant authorities to ensure that our industry operates in a manner that is completely transparent and fair for all consumers, so that they can continue to play the games they love," via The Hill. FanDuel has not commented publicly on this issue.

Pallone believes it is hypocritical for the NFL to partner with sites of this nature, since it generally opposes gambling. NFL personnel are allowed to play in daily fantasy leagues but are not permitted to receive more than $250 in prizes, according to Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk.

While the past couple weeks have been about DraftKings and FanDuel employees acquiring proprietary data and using it to win on rival websites, the subject seems to change to a broader question with Pallone. If a connection is found between DFS games and NFL personnel, it could end up being a major problem for both parties.

Copyright @ Headlines & Global News.

saw this today.. Could be good lol

 

[CHOPTALK]

So it looks like Mr Pallone is just trying to stir the pot.
Dont they have a budget to deal with?

What a world we live in

 

[HacheMan]

Chop im talking about this topic in general.
You & pats are in a small group who believe nothing is broken with DFS

As for the other topic that looks into the future deeper, simply look around & you will see plenty of ppl who predict DFS will take a major hit if sports betting is legalized.
Its a no-brainer.
They may differ, but at the same time they are alike, with one being a bigger, better world.

About Pallone....Like so many others, he is trying to get the point across to courts that the NFL has been hypocritical, and that DFS is a form of gambling to help the fight in getting sports betting in his state...

 

[PatsFan1283]

Are you saying a smart analytical person would be better off sports betting than playing dfs if both were legal in 2015?

?

 

[slapshot]

no wonder their are so many bad calls and spots in the NFL now not only help LV out but also player stats now hno:


when they go to replay they need to check with DK and FD to see if it's a catch or fumble hno: