for campbell??? he sucks. c gold is right. 
Although I dont agree with your o-line remark (they really stink), i do agree with everything else. Campbell holds on to the ball to long and the only play they run are freaken WR screens and quick slants. If thats covered, dump it off. Its not hard to defend a team that only has 3 passing plays.
How bout it skins fans? When you were winning games int he first half, I heard nothing but superbowl and playoffs...freaken the most delousional fan in the history of sports. And yes, I live in MD and always lived in MD but I fing hate the skins cause of the fans. Keep it real.
Skins need to keep their coaching staff for more than 1 yr and stop buying 37 yr old players. YOU CANT BUY A SUPERBOWL. Freaken Bruce Smith, Deion Sanders and now Jason Taylor. Right, JT and his great pass rush. Did you watch him against the Ravens? He didnt even get close and he wasnt even double teamed. I dont want to hear crap about his injuries. I bet if he was in his 20's, even with the same type injuries he would have produced.
If you are looking to tease a team with New England, I would def look at the Fins. While the turnover margin is not as bad as it seems because SF has been MUCH better with the ball since Hill replaced JT O'Fumble, Fins obviously still have the edge, being at the top of the league in takeaways. As you mentioned, this is obviously an awful spot for the SF traveling all the way to the East Coast which has been a losing proposition all year long (and further back as well), and at a virtual pick I do not expect either NE nor the Fins to lose to either two of these West Coach punching bags.
Tkim11- Redskins fans are the worst slime on the planet. Everybody says the Raiders, Eagles and Cowboys have the worst fans and I see their point, but Washington fans are the worst by far.
Redskins fans sign 5 free agents every february dishing out those Snyder bucks to riddulous contracts to the free agents out there. They bring these guys in, and every year the fans say this is their year.
They bring in new and old coaches to win. Steve Spurrier is the hot NFL coach, Martyball, old man gibbs to bring them back to the glory days?
I remeber the NFL had a preseason exhibition game in Tokoyo in I want to say the 2002 preseason. It was Steve Spurriers first or second game in the NFL, and the Redskins blew out an awful 49ers team. The Redskins hype machine was counting their wins and buying their Super Bowl tickets. It was great!
Every damn year they run their mouths, and every year they dissapoint. You would think that if you spend the most money in the league on a team every year, that you might make the playoffs, but not snyder bucks.
There was a stat that the redskins brough in 22 former pro bowl players since maybe the year 2000, and none of them had made the probowl as a Redskin. It is all just 1 giant payday.
Players go play in New England because they want to play for a championship, players go play in Washington because they want inflated Danny Snyder bucks.
The worst part of all is the Redskins fans bitch about the Eagles/Cowboys fans all the time. Ohhhhh, they are front runners, ooooooh they aren't that good, oooohhhhh dallas has the worst fans.
Redskins fans sign 5 free agents every february dishing out those Snyder bucks to riddulous contracts to the free agents out there. They bring these guys in, and every year the fans say this is their year.
They bring in new and old coaches to win. Steve Spurrier is the hot NFL coach, Martyball, old man gibbs to bring them back to the glory days?
I remeber the NFL had a preseason exhibition game in Tokoyo in I want to say the 2002 preseason. It was Steve Spurriers first or second game in the NFL, and the Redskins blew out an awful 49ers team. The Redskins hype machine was counting their wins and buying their Super Bowl tickets. It was great!
Every damn year they run their mouths, and every year they dissapoint. You would think that if you spend the most money in the league on a team every year, that you might make the playoffs, but not snyder bucks.
There was a stat that the redskins brough in 22 former pro bowl players since maybe the year 2000, and none of them had made the probowl as a Redskin. It is all just 1 giant payday.
Players go play in New England because they want to play for a championship, players go play in Washington because they want inflated Danny Snyder bucks.
The worst part of all is the Redskins fans bitch about the Eagles/Cowboys fans all the time. Ohhhhh, they are front runners, ooooooh they aren't that good, oooohhhhh dallas has the worst fans.
TB @ Atlanta
This game really says that the books/public respect Atlanta. The Falcons are a suprise team and 8-5 ATS, and they are favored over Tampa.
We all saw the Bucs run D get gashed on Monday night, and the Falcons average 146.4 per game rushing with turner the burner in the backfield.
Can Matt Ryan beat the Bucs defense? The Bucs pegged him to do so.
The Bucs game was so embarassing last week, they could bounce back in a big way. They beat the Falcons 24-9 at home earlier in the year, and this is a big game as well. Gaines Adams might be back as well.
I lean Tampa plus the points here, and especially +10 points, but I haven't watched the Falcons as much as I should have this year.
This game really says that the books/public respect Atlanta. The Falcons are a suprise team and 8-5 ATS, and they are favored over Tampa.
We all saw the Bucs run D get gashed on Monday night, and the Falcons average 146.4 per game rushing with turner the burner in the backfield.
Can Matt Ryan beat the Bucs defense? The Bucs pegged him to do so.
The Bucs game was so embarassing last week, they could bounce back in a big way. They beat the Falcons 24-9 at home earlier in the year, and this is a big game as well. Gaines Adams might be back as well.
I lean Tampa plus the points here, and especially +10 points, but I haven't watched the Falcons as much as I should have this year.
Minny @ Zona is off line
People want to know if " in GUS we TRUST" will play or that garbage media hyped turd quarterback will play.
Pats @ Raiders
I love the Pats teased just to win, I think they probably do cover too, but that team has horrible injures on defense. They were playing 2 aged LBs off the street and D-lineman that were garbage.
People want to know if " in GUS we TRUST" will play or that garbage media hyped turd quarterback will play.
Pats @ Raiders
I love the Pats teased just to win, I think they probably do cover too, but that team has horrible injures on defense. They were playing 2 aged LBs off the street and D-lineman that were garbage.
A big problem is certainly the play-calling. Defenses are ready for these crappy slants and quick screens so they are covered. That is Jim Zorn's fault, not Campbell's. I'll agree that he holds onto the ball too long at times but that is just a minute reason for the atrocious offense. The receivers have sucked and get no separation, aside from Moss who is double covered and breaking down as a 5-9 receiver in the NFL. As for C-Gold's point about Vick and his crappy receivers, RECEIVERS TAKE 3 or 4 YEARS to get good. Most young receivers do not produce early in their careers. Jenkins and White were young, poor route runners, and dropped plenty of balls from Vick. Campbell throws a much better ball than Vick did, but his young receivers are not getting open, whether it's due to their inexperience, inability to run routes, or bad play-calling. Not to mention Randle El who has certainly lost a step. It's ridiculous to make Campbell the scapegoat when very few QBs would find even moderate success in this offense. (BTW I have no problem with your under pick, the offense is poor, BUT Campbell is far from the reason why it sucks.)
Funny how most of the people who hate the Redskins so passionately actually live in this area. We have a great fan base and the team is a part of the community in this area. Do you feel left out? Tired of hearing how much we care about our team?
Well then move to another city. If I lived in Buffalo and heard nothing but Bills talk I wouldn't be bitching about it. That is just the way it is.
Well then move to another city. If I lived in Buffalo and heard nothing but Bills talk I wouldn't be bitching about it. That is just the way it is.
any player that has to wear gold jewlry on the field in an NFL game is just a shitfuk jones..... put coke in your jock strap too while your at it....
how do you get fines for the socks you wear, or not tucking in your shirt, but NO fine for Jewlry for shit sake???????
NFL IS A BIG BLACK JOKE
uke1: NFL.COM probably sells the same gold chains...
how do you get fines for the socks you wear, or not tucking in your shirt, but NO fine for Jewlry for shit sake???????
NFL IS A BIG BLACK JOKE
uke1: NFL.COM probably sells the same gold chains...But it all comes back to a chicken or egg thing. The play calling sucks... why does the play calling suck... because the PLAYER SUCKS!
Tom Moore isn't going to have the same plays for Peyton Manning as Jim Zorn has for Jason Campbell... why? Because Peyton Manning can audible, audible blocking schemes, WR pass routes, he can audible from pass to run and from run to pass based on what the defense was showing.
The coaches in Atlanta NEVER like Mike Convict run audibles? Why? Because he was about as primative as they come, he didn't study game film, he didn't show up first and leave last, and all he wanted to do was show up to games and " make plays". It was all a big joke to him. Show up to games, and try and make sports center highlights.
Mike Vick is an easy example that glares out, but playing QB is the hardest job in pro sports. Jason Campbell flat out isn't ready. Instead of giving him the opportunity to call audibles and throw the ball downfield, Joe Gibbs and Al Saunders made him run the conservative play calls that they dialed up, regardless of whether Jason thought they would work or not ( what if he read the defense wrong and checked into the wrong plays = disaster).
Jim Zorn has followed the Gibbs/Saunders mantra. Is it because they all are biased against Jason, or is it because Gibbs ( who skins fans say is the best coach ever), and Zorn ( a top QB coach), all know that jason just doesn't have it. I mean, just look at how conservative the play calling is.
Redskins passing tendencies
WR Screen
TE Screen
RB screen
Look downfield, then dump off to RB
TE Drag
WR slant
usually 1 deep pass a game, always on play action, never straight up
A few throws inbetween 10-20 yards and that is it.
Jason Campbell completes 50% of his passes to a RB or TE, and the ball travels through the air 5 yards or less on those completions. That is before any WR slant or WR screen. Most of the throws in this offense are 5 yards or less.
The only times Jason really does throw the ball over 5 yards, are on play action or 1st down to add that element of suprise. It's not like he just drops back, and throws a 12 yard pass on 3rd down for the conversion, he drops back and throws a 12 yard pass on 1st down when the d is thinking run, or play action.
The worst of all is how he behaves on 3rd downs. 3rd and 12, and this guy has no problem throwing that 4 yard check down over and over and over again. He has no sense of how to play the positon. Sure, those completions make his stats & QB rating look good, but they do nothing to win games. Jason's QB rating actually isn't bad, because he runs the least risky, and 4th lowest scoring offense in the NFL.
The Redskins have talent all around him, but they haven't scored over 30 points all year! Buffalo and KC both had a huge shoot out earlier this year, and the redskins have only scored over 20 four times!!!
It is comical to me that people blame Hall of fame coach Joe Gibbs, Super Bowl and established offensive coordinator Al Saunders, former QB and long time QB coach Jim Zorn, but not a lick of the blame is send to that lazy Alabama QB. Don't you think all of those offensive minded coaches keep it simple stupid for a reason?
Does Jason Campbell strike YOU as a bright guy? Have you heard him speak? Has he done a lot of things on the field that would make you think he is intelligent, or impress you?
2nd round pick
The pundits were talking about his physical skills last year and pre TY.
Deion Sanders and the crews were saying " give him a chance" he's good.
Mike Mayock did a preseason game and talked about him favorably.
I mean, 99% of NFL fans would say this guy is garbage, and I said it from day 1, but we have media people talking about how physically outstanding he is, and how he deserves a chance etc. Were they saying the same crap about Ryan Leaf after he sucked? Why hype up Terrible Tavaras?
Let me state up front that I am not a Texans Fan!
But, they have been playing very good football since turning Slaton loose to run and catch the ball. They have their starting QB back and one of the best deep threats in the league in Johnson. This is a tough place to come play when you really have no motivation to be there. I like the Texans in this spot.
Houston may be a tough place to play, but they are 2-4 ATS at home ( so they don't play as well as they are projected to), and the Titans are 6-0 on the road, and 6-0 ATS. That means the Titans can and do play well on the road.
So if you say Houston is a tough place to come and play, the Titans have answered every challenge they have had on the road.
Houston has one of the best backup QB's in the league, and him over Schaub may not actually be that much of a big deal. I like Gary Kubiak and he has put together a strong defense, but how does that address that defense?
Houston's D can't stop the run, and that is the Titans bread and butter? If Houston gives up 4.6 per carry ( like they average), and the Titans rush for 4.4 per carry ( like they average), then Matt Schaub is going to have to throw a whole lot of TD passes to Andre Johnson against one of the leagues top 3 defenses.
I also don't like the angle that a team has " nothing to play for". These guys are prideful, they have an awsome coach, and nobody likes losing. Nobody is going to run out there 75% for the titans, and if some of the backups come in, they will try their very best to shine.
The only validity I do see to " they have nothing to play for", is that the Titans might not bust out their trick plays, or bread and butter plays on 3rd down for the eye in the sky. They might run more base sets so that future opponents won't see what they are really looking to do.
I may place a wager on all 5 home dogs this weekend anyway, but I think saying Houston is a tough place to play doesn't have so much validity.
