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I wasn't sure about Va Tech until these last few posts were written. We're getting a good barometer of the public's sentiment without having to leave this thread. Let's just hope the public keeps thinking this way up until 2:30 CST Saturday as I'd love to get 3.5....GL Box.
 

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Beamer Ball is about Special Team, and that's VT's only advantage in this game. They'll average from the 40-45 yd line. May even break a long one for TD against this sloppy 'Canes Special Team.

VT is supposedly the more experience team this year, but they've not lived up to the expectation, especially Tyrod. For 58+ minutes, the offense didn't show up AT HOME against Neb, and won it on the last play of the game. One big play pulled them outta hole.

Against the 'Canes, VT will need to show up with their hardhat, and lunch pals in hand ready for 60 mins of trench diggin' to have a chance. Because one big play, and 2 minutes of work ain't gonna git-er-done against this Miami team.

Mano-a-mano, UM is the faster team on both sides of the ball. Bud Foster has his work cut out for him this week against this runnin'-n-gunnin' offense that clicks on all cylinders.

All said, I don't trust Tyrod at QB until there are results. Tyrod has wheels, but he hadn't take off and run in the first 2 games like he was prone to do last year (a la Mike Vick). This week, he'll have to use his legs more to evade the 'Canes blitzes. That won't be enough though.

And I'm Chuck this week. :103631605
 

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BTW:

VT averages 198 ypg net rushing yards, until you drill down further against:

Bama 64 yds,
Marshall 444 yds,
Neb 86 yds
 

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Box -thanks for the response. Agree with your points completely that on average, situational angles are more likely to win ATS than match-up angles. So throwing all the stats and match-ups out the window, the one thing I'm confident about is that VT won't come out and lay and egg against arguably their biggest rival (UVA is so bad they don't count). So assuming VT doesn't lay an egg, and plays somewhere near the level at which they played both Bama and Nebraska, I agree with you - I think they stand a great chance against an overhyped Miami team.
 

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with all the other games to bet on I guess I'll stay away from this one,but might make a second half play..
 

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I'll say 2 more things before I post the next game:

1. A lot of people are coming in here and telling me stuff I already know. Handicapping is not about trying to figure out who the better team is on neutral turf with equal rest. If the better team always covered, we'd all be filthy rich. I'll leave it at that.

2. You don't want to be on the same side as the masses when betting. The masses don't win in sports betting. That wonderful place called Las Vegas wasn't built because everyone goes out there and cleans up.

When I first started posting here, I made the Classic RX mistake. I would click on my 5 or 6 favorite cappers thread, and if they all liked the same play I would follow it. And if everyone else also liked it, then I really liked it.

It's a hard concept to get comfortable with, but you want to be all by yourself usually when looking at what side you are on.

Again, this isn't some "I told you so" speech, because Va Tech could very well go out there and get their shit kicked in, and I will move on to the next play and continue my march to making money. Just giving my perspective.
 

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1. A lot of people are coming in here and telling me stuff I already know. Handicapping is not about trying to figure out who the better team is on neutral turf with equal rest. If the better team always covered, we'd all be filthy rich. I'll leave it at that.

AGREE 100%
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What is the best site for tracking where or on what team money is coming in on?
 

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The third thing I wanted to say that I forgot is that I think as the year goes on Nebraska will prove to be a really, really good football team.

I'm more impressed with VIRGINIA TECHS schedule to date than I am with Miami's schedule.
 

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1. A lot of people are coming in here and telling me stuff I already know. Handicapping is not about trying to figure out who the better team is on neutral turf with equal rest. If the better team always covered, we'd all be filthy rich. I'll leave it at that.

AGREE 100%
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What is the best site for tracking where or on what team money is coming in on?

This question is asked over, and over and over and over. The answer is, there is NO site that is accurate in telling you where money is coming in and how much. The only true way to know where money is coming in is to take bets (be a bookie). Even Sportsoptions, which in my estimation is the most informative site on the internet as far as line movement goes, doesn't have a clue where $ is coming in. If you want to trick yourself into thinking a site that tells you where the money is, try sportsbookspy. I have a friend that takes bets and every site I've shown him has not been indicative of where the true money is. If there was a true site, you would be a wealthy man by playing against any team or total that had over 90% of the action. It's a fact. The public ALWAYS loses. Especially this season. FYI, the public hasn't won a side or a total in MNF this year. BOL.
 

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1. A lot of people are coming in here and telling me stuff I already know. Handicapping is not about trying to figure out who the better team is on neutral turf with equal rest. If the better team always covered, we'd all be filthy rich. I'll leave it at that.

AGREE 100%
:103631605

What is the best site for tracking where or on what team money is coming in on?


From last week's thread:


I use Wagerline.com/Covers for my public percentages and here's why:

Although it is just a sample size of bettors, I feel it is the most accurate sample size out there. The people on wagerline/covers are every day gamblers, contest players, going with their gut instincts to win a contest and they put their plays in religiously each day. When you play a contest, you usually dont research much, you just click off instinct. I love that instinct because that is how a lot of public bettors bet. They look at the card and they see "what jumps out at them."

I consider these people the public. I also feel wagerline/covers doesn't have any reason to fudge their percentages.
 

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People should read and re-read post #46 in this thread.

Follow your own convictions!!
 

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still at 2.5 at my local right now, you already put in the play on the Hokies or are you waiting closer to the weekend?
 

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still at 2.5 at my local right now, you already put in the play on the Hokies or are you waiting closer to the weekend?

5Dimes has it at -3 (-120) at this moment.

I'm pretty confident no one is going to offer 3.5 because that exposes them to a hell of a Middle if the Canes win by exactly three.

I'm personally using the ML (currently +115) but am waiting in hopes it might creep up a few more cents.
 

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I'm pretty confident no one is going to offer 3.5 because that exposes them to a hell of a Middle if the Canes win by exactly three.

I already locked in 2 units at -4 (-115) on BetUS and then tacked on another unit when it moved to -4 (-110) for a few hours yesterday. It is currently at 3.5 (-110)...

BetUS loves to skew lines away from public money (not sure if I phrased that right...but basically, if the pub is hitting one side hard, BetUS will adjust the line to make it less favorable for the pub...always a good sign when you're on the other side).
 

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All those minus signs (-) in the previous post ahead of the spread should be plus signs (+)...apologies
 

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well I just checked and 5Dimes +3 (-120) and BetUS has +2.5 (-110), i guess people have been hitting both sides?
 

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agree 100% i will be on the points and the VT ML. I was on VT as well against Nebraska and I am not ashamed of the play. VT in Lane is as solid as they come. One thing that originally had me worried about this spot is the potential letdown from the previous win. However, I think considering that after this game, VT's only action for the next 2 weeks is @ Duke and home vs. BC. As long as VT can avoid upsets @ Georgia Tech and UNC (@Lane again), they look to run the tables in the ACC. Miami is in a similar position following this game. That makes this game basically the deciding factor in the ACC coastal division IMO. Whoever wins this game is the decided favorite to play in the ACC Championship and favorite to win that against a shitty ACC Atlantic group. The winner of this game basically has a BCS bid.

If you consider that Frank Beamer has the deciding ACC game of the year at home, how can you even consider backing anyone other than Tech? In fact, this makes me think that rather than a letdown this week, last weeks performance was probably the result of overlooking the Cornhuskers considering the Hokies know the chances of them being in the national title discussion has ended (after Alabama loss) and ACC play becomes most important now. Miami has enjoyed some national spotlight this week, now its time for them to face a real team in a hostile environment. I'm talking about this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h1EW5z1wdc


And one last thought. Miami is in national title thoughts and they do have a lot of potential to look ahead to Oklahoma next week. I realize that sounds ridiculous to overlook the #11 team for the #10 team but you gotta figure Bradford may be coming back by then....the potential is still there.


If you can't tell I am large on VT here....play of the year for me.
 

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agree 100% i will be on the points and the VT ML. I was on VT as well against Nebraska and I am not ashamed of the play. VT in Lane is as solid as they come. One thing that originally had me worried about this spot is the potential letdown from the previous win. However, I think considering that after this game, VT's only action for the next 2 weeks is @ Duke and home vs. BC. As long as VT can avoid upsets @ Georgia Tech and UNC (@Lane again), they look to run the tables in the ACC. Miami is in a similar position following this game. That makes this game basically the deciding factor in the ACC coastal division IMO. Whoever wins this game is the decided favorite to play in the ACC Championship and favorite to win that against a shitty ACC Atlantic group. The winner of this game basically has a BCS bid.

If you consider that Frank Beamer has the deciding ACC game of the year at home, how can you even consider backing anyone other than Tech? In fact, this makes me think that rather than a letdown this week, last weeks performance was probably the result of overlooking the Cornhuskers considering the Hokies know the chances of them being in the national title discussion has ended (after Alabama loss) and ACC play becomes most important now. Miami has enjoyed some national spotlight this week, now its time for them to face a real team in a hostile environment. I'm talking about this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h1EW5z1wdc


And one last thought. Miami is in national title thoughts and they do have a lot of potential to look ahead to Oklahoma next week. I realize that sounds ridiculous to overlook the #11 team for the #10 team but you gotta figure Bradford may be coming back by then....the potential is still there.


If you can't tell I am large on VT here....play of the year for me.

POY on VT? You gotta be kidding. Whipple will out coach Foster.
 

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