It’s a bet
I'm in for $100 or more
LMAO
No way Bill will be the Patriots coach next season
LMAO
No way Bill will be the Patriots coach next season
Wait you don't gamble.
And your buddy boy cancels his imaginary bets.
LMAO
And your buddy boy cancels his imaginary bets.
LMAO
Brady and Belichick are both Goats, they were a team
Brady's play was the only reason they won the game vs the Falcons. He was sensational in a loss vs the Eagles
Belichick's coaching was the reason they beat the Rams
The other 6 Superbowl games were teamwork. Brady did his job, and Belichick had the team prepared. Every score was like 20-17,
Two Goats
How key was Adam Vinatieri in two of those first three super bowl victories? Say what you will about the tuck rule but that kick in the snow was legendary.
And Brady helped the team immensely by playing below FMV, enabling the Patriots to obtain and retain more talent. Every time the Patriots needed money, he seemingly took a pay cut. He didn't bankrupt the team financially, like many other QB;s have
It was a collection of pieces. Several people, some aging and some not, came to the Patriots just to pursue a ring
Ok that makes sense
Now I understand
Ahh, the old "they didn't play anyone" agrument. Except they beat the shit out of every division in both conferences. What was they're win rate with Brady....77%? What was theyre cover rate again? 60% + !
And all the SB's they won against the AFC East. I forget how much that played a part in it!
And who the hell would call that the worse division in history after all the putrid NFL we've seen recently.
Terrible argument.
Ahh, the old "they didn't play anyone" agrument. Except they beat the shit out of every division in both conferences. What was they're win rate with Brady....77%? What was theyre cover rate again? 60% + !
And all the SB's they won against the AFC East. I forget how much that played a part in it!
And who the hell would call that the worse division in history after all the putrid NFL we've seen recently.
Terrible argument.
They were 70% + overall
They were 70% + inside the division
They were 70% + outside the division against other AFC divisions
They were 70% + vs the NFC
Anyway you cut the pie, they dominated, and that greatness hurt their divisional opponents who they had to play twice per year
They had an amazing run, can't last forever, sucks being mortal
The division thing is a bad argument
They played a 1st place schedule every year
They had 10 games a season with a 1st place schedule and played teams like the colts , stealers , Ravens every single season
And there were other seasons where the AFC East did not totally suck . Miami and NYJ had a few good teams during that time
It’s not like it was the NFC south of today
They played a 1st place schedule every year
They had 10 games a season with a 1st place schedule and played teams like the colts , stealers , Ravens every single season
And there were other seasons where the AFC East did not totally suck . Miami and NYJ had a few good teams during that time
It’s not like it was the NFC south of today
Ya know, this "Brady vs Belichick" debate is just dumb... like "Manning vs Brady" back in the day, no matter how many great points on either side.
Here's why. Once again, let's revisit "Manning vs Brady" from a different perspective.
Although Manning may have been slightly better statistically than Brady, personally, I always sided with Tom Brady as the ultimate competitor and clutch performer - intangibles I value a lot more than "numbers".
Numbers, shmumbers - results speak for themselves. As John Madden used to say, you need big plays from big players in big games.
Tom Brady won 7 Super Bowls, including an insane 10 Super Bowl appearances, 5 MVPs, 17 division titles...it just goes on and on. Mind boggling high-level achievements by any standard.
Contrast this to Peyton Manning - equally as "talented" (in his prime) as Brady, winning 5 MVPs. Fair, right? However, by the time Manning won his two Super Bowls, he was way past his prime and hardly a factor. I remember people joking a geriatric Manning could barely throw the ball any distance during his last one. Manning is lucky he even won one Lombardi trophy as his stacked Broncos did most of the heavy lifting.
So what was Tom Brady's secret sauce? Bill Belichick.
Belichick's Patriots were always better prepared, better coached, more disciplined, better in-game adjusments, higher caliber special teams with clutch kicking, top defenses etc. Results don't lie. Under Belichick with Brady as his QB, for two decades, the Patriots DOMINATED the NFL, especially in BIG games when it mattered.
As gifted as Manning was, Belichick would have made him so much better, with more hardware to show for than two measly Super Bowls in the twilight of his HOF career - a failure by Peyton Manning's standards.
Peyton Manning needed Bill Belichick, not Tony Dungy. In fact, the coaching was so horrible in Indy that Manning took over the OC reigns himself and created his own playbook calling his own plays in the huddle and at the line of scrimmage. Because Manning never had any coaches who could THINK the game at his level.
Think of all the players over the years who went to the Patriots, played their best football of their careers, then went elsewhere for big $$$ and became a shadow of their former selves. Guys like Deon Branch, Wes Welker..
Think of those Pro-Bowl Belichick defenses... Asante Manuel, Richard Seymour, Tedy Bruschi, Ty Law, Willie McGinest..
You could spend weeks and months watching NFL film studying Belichick's ingenuous playbook and schemes....
As they say, all good things come to the end and so, the two GOATs (B & B) got a divorce.
Brady took the Patriot playbook to a stacked team, practically ran the offense himself (a la Manning) and won a Super Bowl. Good for him.
So this proves what again? That Bill needs Tom more than Tom needs Bill?
Ridiculous.
What if Tom Brady had been drafted by the Cardinals, Browns, Bears...whomever.. would he have won a Super Bowl? No. Not a single one. In fact, Brady's draft stock was so low at the time one could make a convincing argument he may not ever gotten a sniff in the NFL.
Brady had Belichick, who taught Tom Brady how to be the BEST he could be, surrounded him with players who performed at their peak when mattered most on both sides of the ball, and in so doing, Tom Brady became the undisputed GOAT.
Great players need great coaches and vice-versa. This is not a either/or equation...stupid debate. You absolutely need BOTH.
Don't believe me? Ask Peyton Manning, as good as he was.
Right now, Josh Allen is already the undisputed heavyweight MVP of the NFL (with a loser douche canoe coach holding him back). Bill Belichick would make Allen even better - the absolute BEST Josh Allen to date and in doing so bring MULTIPLE Super Bowls to Buffalo.
Terry Pegula would be absolutely insane not to make this happen.
Here's why. Once again, let's revisit "Manning vs Brady" from a different perspective.
Although Manning may have been slightly better statistically than Brady, personally, I always sided with Tom Brady as the ultimate competitor and clutch performer - intangibles I value a lot more than "numbers".
Numbers, shmumbers - results speak for themselves. As John Madden used to say, you need big plays from big players in big games.
Tom Brady won 7 Super Bowls, including an insane 10 Super Bowl appearances, 5 MVPs, 17 division titles...it just goes on and on. Mind boggling high-level achievements by any standard.
Contrast this to Peyton Manning - equally as "talented" (in his prime) as Brady, winning 5 MVPs. Fair, right? However, by the time Manning won his two Super Bowls, he was way past his prime and hardly a factor. I remember people joking a geriatric Manning could barely throw the ball any distance during his last one. Manning is lucky he even won one Lombardi trophy as his stacked Broncos did most of the heavy lifting.
So what was Tom Brady's secret sauce? Bill Belichick.
Belichick's Patriots were always better prepared, better coached, more disciplined, better in-game adjusments, higher caliber special teams with clutch kicking, top defenses etc. Results don't lie. Under Belichick with Brady as his QB, for two decades, the Patriots DOMINATED the NFL, especially in BIG games when it mattered.
As gifted as Manning was, Belichick would have made him so much better, with more hardware to show for than two measly Super Bowls in the twilight of his HOF career - a failure by Peyton Manning's standards.
Peyton Manning needed Bill Belichick, not Tony Dungy. In fact, the coaching was so horrible in Indy that Manning took over the OC reigns himself and created his own playbook calling his own plays in the huddle and at the line of scrimmage. Because Manning never had any coaches who could THINK the game at his level.
Think of all the players over the years who went to the Patriots, played their best football of their careers, then went elsewhere for big $$$ and became a shadow of their former selves. Guys like Deon Branch, Wes Welker..
Think of those Pro-Bowl Belichick defenses... Asante Manuel, Richard Seymour, Tedy Bruschi, Ty Law, Willie McGinest..
You could spend weeks and months watching NFL film studying Belichick's ingenuous playbook and schemes....
As they say, all good things come to the end and so, the two GOATs (B & B) got a divorce.
Brady took the Patriot playbook to a stacked team, practically ran the offense himself (a la Manning) and won a Super Bowl. Good for him.
So this proves what again? That Bill needs Tom more than Tom needs Bill?
Ridiculous.
What if Tom Brady had been drafted by the Cardinals, Browns, Bears...whomever.. would he have won a Super Bowl? No. Not a single one. In fact, Brady's draft stock was so low at the time one could make a convincing argument he may not ever gotten a sniff in the NFL.
Brady had Belichick, who taught Tom Brady how to be the BEST he could be, surrounded him with players who performed at their peak when mattered most on both sides of the ball, and in so doing, Tom Brady became the undisputed GOAT.
Great players need great coaches and vice-versa. This is not a either/or equation...stupid debate. You absolutely need BOTH.
Don't believe me? Ask Peyton Manning, as good as he was.
Right now, Josh Allen is already the undisputed heavyweight MVP of the NFL (with a loser douche canoe coach holding him back). Bill Belichick would make Allen even better - the absolute BEST Josh Allen to date and in doing so bring MULTIPLE Super Bowls to Buffalo.
Terry Pegula would be absolutely insane not to make this happen.
