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There's not a chance in hell it will go down as the worst trade. You guys are smoking something real good to be that silly.

Right now, with the way RG3 is playing now, it may go down as the second worst with only the Walker trade being worse.
 
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What future are you talking about? They were garbage for the past two decades before RG3 came in. Their draft picks have been complete busts. They get their first rookie of the year, win the East for the first time in over 5 years, get to the playoffs, energize the fan base. There is absolutely no way any Redskins fan or anyone in the organization would not make that trade again. The Rams did absolutely nothing with those picks. They actually went 1-3 against the NFC East last year. The Redskins won that deal by a long shot.


You are saying the Redskins got the best out of that trade for Bob Griffin? Just because the Rams messed up their picks? How does that benefit the Skins? You lost out on the #2 overall pick because they stink. And everyone knows Luck should have been rookie of the year. Taking basically the same roster from 2-14 to 11-5.
 
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Devin smith from ohio st will be a steal
 
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Are we talking about Andre Johnson catching 100 balls? Maybe with Luck I guess but his career is on the downside.

I just hope he can stay healthy. It's crazy the numbers he has put up with complete shit quarterbacks'. Even in college, wasnt his qb on a great Miami team Ken Dorsey? His best quarterback he has played with his Matt Schaub who threw a pick 6 every other week.
 

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You are saying the Redskins got the best out of that trade for Bob Griffin? Just because the Rams messed up their picks? How does that benefit the Skins? You lost out on the #2 overall pick because they stink. And everyone knows Luck should have been rookie of the year. Taking basically the same roster from 2-14 to 11-5.

No, based on Griffin's performance on the field. No doubt they got the best of the deal. Would make that 100 times over. He's had the best individual Redskins season in at least the past 2 decades. When you suffered through Gus Frerotte, Heath Shuler, Jason Campbell, etc... you take the successful seasons when you can get them. There is absolutely no reason to believe the skins would have been a better team without the trade. In the past 4 years he has won the Heismann trophy, Rookie of the Year, played an entire season with a knee brace where he couldn't even run, than dislocated his ankle last season. Even his bad season with the knee brace he was still better than many quarterbacks in the NFL. The guy is a legit stud if he could remain healthy. Should have been in the MVP conversation his RC season with the staggering numbers he put up. But you guys are fools if you think this was anything like the Ricky Williams trade or that the Redskins would have been better off without him. Just haters.
 
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I am thinking there is a curse for teams that trade up for the 2nd guy in the draft. The Chargers did it for Leaf. The Redskins did it for Bob Griffin. People were trying to do it for Mariotta. 2 of those are the top 5 biggest busts right now.
 
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No, based on Griffin's performance on the field. No doubt they got the best of the deal. Would make that 100 times over. He's had the best individual Redskins season in at least the past 2 decades. When you suffered through Gus Frerotte, Heath Shuler, Jason Campbell, etc... you take the successful seasons when you can get them. There is absolutely no reason to believe the skins would have been a better team without the trade. In the past 4 years he has won the Heismann trophy, Rookie of the Year, played an entire season with a knee brace where he couldn't even run, than dislocated his ankle last season. Even his bad season with the knee brace he was still better than many quarterbacks in the NFL. The guy is a legit stud if he could remain healthy. Should have been in the MVP conversation his RC season with the staggering numbers he put up. But you guys are fools if you think this was anything like the Ricky Williams trade or that the Redskins would have been better off without him. Just haters.

I hate that line. And the colts would have gone 13-3 if the Skins didnt mess up Peyton's neck. If you aren't on the field, you are just as good as me. You are a fan. When I say people stink, that factors into it. If you aren't on the field, you mean nothing. This is all about results. Sure you have your freak injury but the good ones come back the next year and light it up.
 

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I hate that line. And the colts would have gone 13-3 if the Skins didnt mess up Peyton's neck. If you aren't on the field, you are just as good as me. You are a fan. When I say people stink, that factors into it. If you aren't on the field, you mean nothing. This is all about results. Sure you have your freak injury but the good ones come back the next year and light it up.

If you are arguing he was a bust because he had injuries that's fine. I usually leave busts up to just sucking on the playing field.
 

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Well that's not the Redskins fault. RG3 has also been injured the last two seasons.

Yeah, my point is you said the Rams had a piss poor record against the NFC East. You have to put that into context that their starting QB was Austin Davis.
 

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Right now, with the way RG3 is playing now, it may go down as the second worst with only the Walker trade being worse.

Not a chance. RG3 has already sealed the deal that it was a great trade for the skins. The injuries suck but there is absolutely no reason to believe they would have been better off without RG3. You guys act like they were really good and had a stellar track record of draft picks before him. It was a great trade that would be done every time if asked to do it again.
 
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If you are arguing he was a bust because he had injuries that's fine. I usually leave busts up to just sucking on the playing field.

Put it this way. I doubt he starts 12 more games in his career. No way the Skins are paying him 16 million or whatever it is next year with the 5th year team option.

I dont see how injuries don't factor into bust. You already knew he had 1 acl tear. you knew he ran. Really, what do you expect. Same thing I said about Vince Young. It takes 1 hit but people want to talk about that 18 yard scramble. It was so electrifying. Do it 50 times, you will get hit and hard.
 

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Yeah, my point is you said the Rams had a piss poor record against the NFC East. You have to put that into context that their starting QB was Austin Davis.

Well, we are taking injuries in to account here. Regardless of how you put it the Rams have done absolutely nothing with their draft picks that the skins gave them. Just like the skins did absolutely nothing with the draft picks before RG3... other than Kerrigan and Orakpo (before injuries).
 

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Put it this way. I doubt he starts 12 more games in his career. No way the Skins are paying him 16 million or whatever it is next year with the 5th year team option.

I dont see how injuries don't factor into bust. You already knew he had 1 acl tear. you knew he ran. Really, what do you expect. Same thing I said about Vince Young. It takes 1 hit but people want to talk about that 18 yard scramble. It was so electrifying. Do it 50 times, you will get hit and hard.

If he stays healthy, he'll start all 16 games this year and the skins will be good. He's much better than Vince Young at all aspects of being a quarterback.
 
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If he stays healthy, he'll start all 16 games this year and the skins will be good. He's much better than Vince Young at all aspects of being a quarterback.

But he won't start 16 games. It is proven. And it doesnt help he is mentally weak and overly sensitive. Was hurt in college. Hurt in the NFL. but somehow he will be great for the next 5 years. It's like people want to take highlight plays and assume that is how he is.

Do you realize he has never started 16 games in his entire life?
 

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But he won't start 16 games. It is proven. And it doesnt help he is mentally weak and overly sensitive. Was hurt in college. Hurt in the NFL. but somehow he will be great for the next 5 years. It's like people want to take highlight plays and assume that is how he is.

Do you realize he has never started 16 games in his entire life?

He started 15 games as a rookie.

3200 yards passing, 20 tds, 5 ints, 815 yds rushing, 7tds, 102.4 qb rating.

Rookie of the year, NFC east champions, was dominating the Seahawks before he reinjured his leg late in the 1st.

Only 2 qbs had a better passer rating than RG3 that year... Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Manning.

Your argument is weak. He's obviously a legit qb when he's at full strength. He'll never be the pocket passer they are trying to make him be though. His legs is what separates him from the rest.
 

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Even in 2013 after not practicing or playing for months and then having to play with a knee brace on hobbling everywhere he still put up better numbers than a number of other starting qbs. Your guys arguments are more based on jealousy and hatred than objectivity.
 
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He started 15 games as a rookie.

3200 yards passing, 20 tds, 5 ints, 815 yds rushing, 7tds, 102.4 qb rating.

Rookie of the year, NFC east champions, was dominating the Seahawks before he reinjured his leg late in the 1st.

Only 2 qbs had a better passer rating than RG3 that year... Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Manning.

Your argument is weak. He's obviously a legit qb when he's at full strength. He'll never be the pocket passer they are trying to make him be though. His legs is what separates him from the rest.

Unbelievable. And running quarterbacks are successful? When he is at full strength? When is that? Not a pocket passer? Take a look at the best quarterbacks over the last 25 years. If what you say were true, wildcat qb's would be ran 30 times a game and picked consistantly in the 1st round yet we never say they are great.
 

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Unbelievable. And running quarterbacks are successful? When he is at full strength? When is that? Not a pocket passer? Take a look at the best quarterbacks over the last 25 years. If what you say were true, wildcat qb's would be ran 30 times a game and picked consistantly in the 1st round yet we never say they are great.

In 2 of the 3 years in the NFL when he was on the field he was better than quite a bit of other starters in the NFL. Not saying he was playing at an elite level, but he is definitely good enough to be a starter in the NFL. His numbers and accomplishments speak for themselves...

Obviously the Redskins have problems outside just the qb.
 

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