It's not my fault people say crazy things and get upset when I tell them what they say is crazy. Saying that a player who won rookie of the year, led the team to their first conference title in over 5 years, has a higher career qb rating than Andrew Luck, 43 tds and 20 ints, over 1400 yards rushing, and battling multiple injuries is the worst trade in NFL history... there's no way around it... that's just crazy talk. It wasn't even a bad trade let alone the worst trade in NFL history.
It's not my fault people say crazy things and get upset when I tell them what they say is crazy. Saying that a player who won rookie of the year, led the team to their first conference title in over 5 years, has a higher career qb rating than Andrew Luck, 43 tds and 20 ints, over 1400 yards rushing, and battling multiple injuries is the worst trade in NFL history... there's no way around it... that's just crazy talk. It wasn't even a bad trade let alone the worst trade in NFL history.
In the last 2 seasons the Rams have double the wins of the Redskins. Austin Davis and Shaun Hill, the #2 and #3 Rams QBs last season, had about the same QB rating as RG3 has put together over the past 2 seasons. In one season Hill and Davis came close to matching the stats that RG3 has put up over 2 years and these guys are career backups. It's mind blowing to me that anyone thinks Washington won that trade.
Hahaha, what would the Redskins record be without RG3 and who did the Rams pick up that would have made the Redskins a contender? Nobody. The Rams suck, saying they are slightly less sucky the past two years than the skins is not an accomplishment. The skins haven't been able to win with anyone the past 20 years. RG3 gave them their first truly competitive chance at being a winning team. It sucks he got injured, but to say it was a bad trade is hilarious. Especially considering he has a higher career qb rating than Andrew Luck and 43 tds/20 ints. Very few qbs have those kind of numbers in the NFL. The Redskins just flat out suck all around, no defense, no line... nothing.
That rookie of the year thing is funny? Luck should have won it and if I name Luck's top 10 things, I wouldn't even bring it up. I will settle for his 400 yard passing games while your guy is sidelined saying "its a party on the left, fun on the right" when referring to his arms. Then fighting for a starting spot in his rookie contract.
RG3 had 29 votes... Luck had 11, Wilson had 10. There really wasn't even a debate. RG3 probably should have been considered for league MVP also with the numbers he put up. Only two more efficient qbs than him that year were Rodgers and Manning. And he has a higher career passer rating than Luck. You guys are on crack!
The Redskins wouldn't have to take advice on who to draft from the Rams if they kept the picks, right? That's kind of a hollow argument IMO.
It seems like you are fine with 5 years of a shit show in exchange for one playoff season... that's pretty much looking like the trade off at this point.
Well 1 out of 3 years of high level play is better than the previous 20 years of mediocre play. And you literally have no clue what he's going to play like if he is full strength. You're just making shit up. Has a higher career passer rating than Luck, 43 tds/20 ints over 1400 yards rushing in just 37 games played. Yea, he's definitely a bust and we really want the Rams picks back, lmao!! Get Grossman or Jason Campbell, that's a lot of fun.
You guys are just being dumb intentionally.
I don't even dislike RG3 as a QB. I'm not at all sold that he can develop into a pocket passer which is mainly what the team wants him to be going forward. That being said he's as good as some other starting quarterbacks in the NFL. It's not like he's horrible. You just better get Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers or Andrew Luck if you are giving away 4 top draft picks for one guy. The Redskins didn't do that and they don't have a ton of young talent because of it. Thinking this trade is horrible isn't simply just a critique of RG3... it's that plus how much it impacted the roster in other spots.
Well the team was 65-95 the decade before drafting him. He comes in after the team went 15-33 the previous 3 seasons, they go 10-6, win the East for the first time since 1999, first ROY in the new NFL, was 3rd in qb rating to Rodgers and Manning... I'd say that is pretty much a high caliber trade. You have yet to present any argument that they would somehow be a better team in those 3 years had they not traded for him, especially since they have sucked for 20 years.
If he didn't tear his knee up and was at full strength, like he showed his RC season, he is a top level qb. No question about that. But to say the trade was bad or the "worst trade in NFL history" is just retarded. You guys are just haters looking to hate. 43 tds, 20 ints... better qb rating than Luck, a team that was 15-33 the 3 seasons before he came and it was a "bad trade". Lmao, some people on this site are amazingly dumb.
He's had one good season when he had his legs. His last 2 seasons have been equivalent to what the #2 and #3 backups for the Rams put up in 1 season in 2014. Do you see him improving now that the team doesn't want him running the ball which is largely what made him effective for his one good season?
Your argument seems to be "we sucked before, we suck now, therefore we didn't lose anything". Well, you lost the ability to not suck... that's what you lost. Just because the team is at the same spot it was at before the trade doesn't mean you didn't lose anything.
Not really, even his bad 2013 season when he had a knee brace on and couldn't run, he still didn't put up that bad of numbers. 16 tds, 12 ints... 82.2 qb rating. You guys are just haters plain and simple. He single handily took a 5-11 team to a division win and made them a contender. They didn't make the trade planning on him getting hurt. The trade was about his skill and the trade was as good as it gets in terms of a high caliber player making you a contender. Would do that trade 1 million out of 1 million times again rather than the crap they have been drafting in the previous seasons or whatever the Rams are doing.
You guys literally are just making shit up. I don't recall a single player in NFL history that turned a program around like RG3 did in 2012. It was a ridiculous season, probably one of if not the best rookie seasons in NFL history.
I didnt want to get involved in your epic battle, but RG3 author of the greatest turnaround in all NFL HISTORY!? My responce would be to question your history. I dont have to turn far back in the annals of time to find two examples of turnarounds that excede yours. 2001 Tom Brady/Patriots and 1999 Kurt Warner/Rams. Both went from division losers to SB champs.....then we could go back further and probably find half a dozen examples morw.
Neither of those QBs were RCs when they started the teams turnaround. They needed years (in Warners case) and a year for Brady to get acclimated before their coaches even gave them a chance. As a RC coming in with no professional experience under his belt what he did was amazing. Obviously Warner and Brady were franchise changers over the long run. But I highly doubt they would have had the success they did if they were injured most of their career. There's really no argument someone can make against RG3's rookie season. It was simply amazing performance by a rookie qb. Completely made a pathetic skins team an immediate competitor. RG3 healthy is a top notch qb that could compete with anyone. That's a given.
Why the hell are we talking about a one time thing 3 yrs ago. Unless the kid developd into another Brady, the trade @ the time was awful. What happened to the Rams has NO bearing on the argument. @ the time I said Luck would be All Pro B4 R2D2, who BTW will never play 16 games, and IMO will be out of the league in 5 yrs. His game does not and will never translate to a franchise NFL QB. A 1 hit wonder!!
