beware: Possible scammer on the forum

[LivintheFamilyLife!]

been wanting to say that for a long time to that dude hc...smh pathetic

Should've man up & said that then pussy. $800 of that is his money to begin with, you think i'm waiting till Monday cuz I dont have $500? Really? Get a clue with a new & bigger set of balls while you're at it. Pretty sure his broke ass is anxiously waiting on it to transfer to you to play right? I hope so, it'll make it even more enjoyable for me to make both of you wait.

 

[LivintheFamilyLife!]

Sounds like something a broke guy would say.

How so? Tell me why I need to bend the rules we agreed upon cuz he came on here & cried about it? I could to be a nice guy of course but would you if he pulled this shit with you? Also anytime you wanna compare bank statements feel free.

 

[mickj]

I think he's going by previous scammers having convoluted stories/ reasoning for not paying.

 

[ML Dog]

I've said it before, i have 8 longtime players in Hawaii & Vegas. I'm not here to advertise for more players, this clown sought me out not the other way around. And just cuz you'd do something a certain way dont make me wrong for not doing the same. I'm dragging this shit out cuz its fun to make him wait, I dont reward stupidity. Agreement is Monday. End of story.

You shouldn't be surprised by responses like HC's, Dr.Pugulist's, The Falls and others who see Better Value on the Opposite Side of the way you choose and've chosen to deal with this.

You could have handled this in a way that would have seen you (potentially at least) get Great Value for yourself, your Reputation and Your Bookie Service.

That Path there would have Required you to be Master of Your Ego, rather than just a Slave to that.

I don't mean this to Criticize You, just saying: Better Value was definitely on the side of Grace......the Opposite Side of the way you choose and've chosen to deal with this and if you think on that, envision what may have resulted re: potential Value for yourself, your Reputation and Your Bookie Service its real difficult to believe that you be able to stay be surprised by responses like HC's, Dr.Pugulist's, The Falls and others, that you've gotten here.

 

[LivintheFamilyLife!]

I understand & agree with everything you said. But I also believe in treating people the way they treat me. I only have a problem with EV180 & drpugilist since they appear to be a tag team suddenly. I'm not starting new shit just responding & defending myself. At this point opinions & judgements have been formed by all those that observed this shitshow thread. I have no motivation to appear to be the bigger person. I was falsely accused & being so puts me on the right side of this. Just my thoughts.

 

[Betallsports]

I am probably missing something but couldn't people just stop betting when they were a few bucks from their max to not have to pay for a long time (or technically ever) under those rules? Could also be complicated on when they pay you...unless there is a day to measure as of and some flexibility around being able to dip into payment territory and then come back would be good for you I would think

Usually if a player gets real close to the settle figure and stops playing to avoid Paying, most guys put in place a time frame of 2-4 weeks for Non-Active Player
and ask to settle up.

Had a guy many years ago that had a "Settle figure" and stopped gambling after the Super Bowl. He was short of the figure and I contacted him 30 days
from the SB. he said he was done until Next Football season and didn't want to pay the figure.
I told him that's NOT how it works, and that i'm not carrying $2925 for 7 Months !!

 

[Betallsports]

As for Livin's deal here .. there was 2 options, pay the guy now and get rid of him .. or make him wait until what was made a deal at the start

Sure if it was Me, I would pay and boot him. But it's not me....
I kind of understand why he's making him wait, and I don't have a problem with it at this point.

Again, I might not agree with how he books, or the Phone thing... But at first the op made it out like it was at least a week of being MIA
it turned out to be 24+ hours
But then again, the Wife Text makes it seem that there might be more to the story and turned it into something New and Strange !

Everything should be taken care of by Monday ... so you have to wait and see ... and Not call him a Stiff

Just my 2 cents

 

[doubledeuce22]

I think I got dumber reading 14 pages of this...

Couple things. If player is up but below the settle up figure, no reason to insinuate the book doing anything shady. And until the next week ends not sure why player would be going this far accusing things. Player could easily piss all that back in a couple days of hoops. I've never heard of discussing or worry about how much you're up in the middle of the week. As for the book, the whole operation seems a little weird and not sure this is the route I'd be going as a player or taking action.

And what exactly did bovada do to make the poster not want to play there yet play this crazy way instead.

 

[drpugilist]

I understand & agree with everything you said. But I also believe in treating people the way they treat me. I only have a problem with EV180 & drpugilist since they appear to be a tag team suddenly. I'm not starting new shit just responding & defending myself. At this point opinions & judgements have been formed by all those that observed this shitshow thread. I have no motivation to appear to be the bigger person. I was falsely accused & being so puts me on the right side of this. Just my thoughts.

man, ive told you this guy doesnt bet with me! im not trying to tag team you. i just gave my opinion that you need to pay and clear your name asap of the situation. or at least thats what i would do if in your shoes. some of the comments youve made abt dragging it out etc is silly and i dont work that way. just commenting bud, calm down and pay up!

 

[ML Dog]

I understand & agree with everything you said. But I also believe in treating people the way they treat me. I only have a problem with EV180 & drpugilist since they appear to be a tag team suddenly. I'm not starting new shit just responding & defending myself. At this point opinions & judgements have been formed by all those that observed this shitshow thread. I have no motivation to appear to be the bigger person. I was falsely accused & being so puts me on the right side of this. Just my thoughts.

You haven't come off as "bad" as result of this thread as you may think, I like you cuz you provide great competition within RX Football Contests and my whole rap about: Two Paths: One More "+EV" didn't factor in setting Precedent....i.e. if a player with you wants some thing all they gotta do is Blow You Up in a thread then they get what they want...

Not as Cut & Dried as I made it sound, theres other considerations. From where I am sitting tho, I'm not left with a Negative Impression of "Livin' The Family Life", for what that is worth.

 

[EV180]

as I had mentioned in a previous thread the reason main reasons I didn't like bovada was that they constantly gave me off odds. I had a friend who also has an account with them and he showed me his account and his account had way more money lines available to him (as that's what I typically like to play). not to mention spreads always seem to be 1/2 off from his. can't count how many times I played a spread bet as the ml was not an option only to end up losing by that 1/2 point. the straw that broke the camel's back for me was when I did a live play and won, only to have it voided out due to incorrect line. of course after I won.

 

[HarryCaray]

You shouldn't be surprised by responses like HC's, Dr.Pugulist's, The Falls and others who see Better Value on the Opposite Side of the way you choose and've chosen to deal with this.

You could have handled this in a way that would have seen you (potentially at least) get Great Value for yourself, your Reputation and Your Bookie Service.

That Path there would have Required you to be Master of Your Ego, rather than just a Slave to that.

I don't mean this to Criticize You, just saying: Better Value was definitely on the side of Grace......the Opposite Side of the way you choose and've chosen to deal with this and if you think on that, envision what may have resulted re: potential Value for yourself, your Reputation and Your Bookie Service its real difficult to believe that you be able to stay be surprised by responses like HC's, Dr.Pugulist's, The Falls and others, that you've gotten here.

That's all I was trying to say. And this option is so obviously the correct path in my mind that I find it hard to believe someone would choose otherwise, unless there were other factors at play.

 

[Betallsports]

* I added the word "Possible" to be fair, since there really isn't any scam or stiff here.

Will Update or Delete this after Monday ... depending what the outcome is

 

[mickj]

update?

 

[EV180]

I will give a full update in the early afternoon

 

[EV180]

alright folks, this has been taken care of. Livin came thru as he said he would. once again I apologize to him and to anybody else involved. but good to know that moderators on this forum actually help in the whole process. easily my new favorite forum.

now BAS you can delete/archive or do whatever it is your do when threads need to be taken outback ol yeller style. thanks again BAS.

 

[Enfuego]

alright folks, this has been taken care of. Livin came thru as he said he would. once again I apologize to him and to anybody else involved. but good to know that moderators on this forum actually help in the whole process. easily my new favorite forum.

now BAS you can delete/archive or do whatever it is your do when threads need to be taken outback ol yeller style. thanks again BAS.

No deleting threads buddy.

 

[pocketrockets]

thank god this is done

 

[okie77]

Have to admit I am going to miss it.

 

[TheFalls]

alright folks, this has been taken care of. Livin came thru as he said he would. once again I apologize to him and to anybody else involved. but good to know that moderators on this forum actually help in the whole process. easily my new favorite forum.

now BAS you can delete/archive or do whatever it is your do when threads need to be taken outback ol yeller style. thanks again BAS.

Will you continue playing with him, or are you going to sign up with pugilist?