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bbb when during the day you usually place your wagers?

i placed the under on car-tor long way off before gametime and before you know it the line went up just before gametime.

lost $47 instead of $41
 

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bbb when during the day you usually place your wagers?

i placed the under on car-tor long way off before gametime and before you know it the line went up just before gametime.

lost $47 instead of $41

These numbers don't indicate my wagers, they are tracked using Pinnacle closing lines so there is no argument over the price that I'm recording. I usually put my bets in very early in the morning, so yeah, I also paid much less for Toronto... but I still have to record the closing line and use that when documenting the series.
 

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Wednesday, November 5, 2008 results

LIST:
UNDER 5.5 - Edmonton 4 at Columbus 5 - LOST -1.12 units
TOTAL - 0-1-0 for -1.12 units.


UPDATED RECORDS:
GAME 1: 17-19-0
GAME 2: 9-5-1
GAME 3: 2-5-0
TOTAL PLAYS: 28-29-1 (49.1%)
SERIES RECORD: 32-5 (-8.86 units)




At least the first period looked nice.
 

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Thursday, November 6, 2008 plays

Thursday, November 6, 2008 plays:

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UNDER 5.5 - Minnesota at Colorado to win 1 (Game 1)
OVER 5.5 - Florida at Los Angeles to win 1 (Game 1)
OVER 5.5 - Nashville at Calgary to win 1 (Game 1)
OVER 5.5 - Philadelphia at Ottawa to win 1 (Game 1)
UNDER 5.5 - Toronto at Boston to win 1.82 (Game 2)


DETAILS:
DATE H/A TEAM OPPONENT LINE OVER UNDER RESULT DESCRIPTION
10/30/08 H Colorado 2 Columbus 4 5.5 -121 111 O
11/2/08 H Colorado 3 San Jose 5 5.5 104 -114 O
11/3/08 A Colorado 2 Chicago 6 5.5 -123 113 O
11/6/08 H Colorado Minnesota

10/30/08 H Los Angeles 0 Vancouver 4 5.5 -119 109 U
11/1/08 H Los Angeles 2 Calgary 3 5.5 -108 -102 U
11/4/08 H Los Angeles 0 Anaheim 1 5.5 -108 -102 U
11/6/08 H Los Angeles Florida

10/30/08 H Nashville 3 Edmonton 1 5.5 -110 100 U
11/1/08 H Nashville 3 Florida 2 5.5 105 -115 U
11/4/08 A Nashville 0 Vancouver 4 5.5 -111 101 U
11/6/08 A Nashville Calgary

10/30/08 A Ottawa 2 Florida 1 5.5 -101 -109 U
11/1/08 A Ottawa 2 Tampa Bay 3 5.5 -101 -109 U
11/4/08 H Ottawa 2 Washington 1 5.5 -132 122 U
11/6/08 H Ottawa Philadelphia

10/29/08 A Toronto 6 New Jersey 5 5 -118 108 O
11/1/08 H Toronto 5 NY Rangers 2 5.5 122 -132 O
11/2/08 A Toronto 4 Carolina 6 5.5 -102 -108 O
11/4/08 H Toronto 4 Carolina 5 5.5 -132 122 O GAME 1: LOST -0.82 UNITS
11/6/08 A Toronto Boston



Good luck!!
 

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Thursday, November 5, 2008 results

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UNDER 5.5 - Minnesota 3 at Colorado 1 - WON 1 unit
OVER 5.5 - Florida 2 at Los Angeles 3 - LOST -0.96 untis
OVER 5.5 - Nashville 6 at Calgary 7 - WON 1 unit
OVER 5.5 - Philadelphia 1 at Ottawa 4 - LOST -1.3 units
UNDER 5.5 - Toronto 2 at Boston 5 - LOST -2.04 units
TOTAL - 2-3-0 for -2.3 units.


UPDATED RECORDS:
GAME 1: 19-21-0
GAME 2: 9-6-1
GAME 3: 2-5-0
TOTAL PLAYS: 30-32-1 (48.4%)
SERIES RECORD: 34-5 (-11.16 units)



Chara, Z. (17:15 in 3rd)... Grabovski, M. (18:06 in 3rd)... Wheeler, B. (19:07 in 3rd)... Can't win when that kind of shit happens. The hockey gods owe us for this one.
 

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Friday, November 7, 2008 plays

Friday, November 7, 2008 plays:

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UNDER 5.5 - Atlanta at Buffalo to win 1 (Game 1)
UNDER 5.5 - Montreal at Columbus to win 2.12 (Game 2)
OVER 5.5 - Ottawa at Carolina to win 2.3 (Game 2)
UNDER 5.5 - Dallas at Anaheim to win 4.5 (Game 3) ***


*** REMEMBER that this series had a conflict within it. On Game 2, we bet a reduced amount because it conflicted with the BOSTON GAME 1 OVER SERIES. Therefore, remember to play this game "TO WIN 2 UNITS" on top of whatever you've lost on Dallas thus far. Don't short change yourself! One unit profit for the Boston series, and one unit profit for the Dallas series.

DETAILS:
DATE H/A TEAM OPPONENT LINE OVER UNDER RESULT DESCRIPTION
11/1/08 A Atlanta 1 New Jersey 6 5.5 113 -123 O
11/2/08 H Atlanta 5 Florida 3 5.5 113 -123 O
11/6/08 H Atlanta 4 NY Islanders 3 5.5 -120 110 O
11/7/08 A Atlanta Buffalo

10/30/08 A Columbus 4 Colorado 2 5.5 -121 111 O
11/1/08 H Columbus 3 Chicago 4 5.5 104 -114 O
11/3/08 A Columbus 3 NY Islanders 4 5.5 -111 101 O
11/5/08 H Columbus 5 Edmonton 4 5.5 102 -112 O GAME 1: LOST -1.12 UNITS
11/7/08 H Columbus Montreal

10/30/08 A Ottawa 2 Florida 1 5.5 -101 -109 U
11/1/08 A Ottawa 2 Tampa Bay 3 5.5 -101 -109 U
11/4/08 H Ottawa 2 Washington 1 5.5 -132 122 U
11/6/08 H Ottawa 4 Philadelphia 1 5.5 -130 120 U GAME 1: LOST -1.3 UNITS
11/7/08 A Ottawa Carolina

10/23/08 A Dallas 5 NY Islanders 3 5.5 125 -135 O
10/25/08 H Dallas 5 Washington 6 5.5 -117 107 O
10/29/08 H Dallas 4 Minnesota 2 5 -127 117 O
10/31/08 A Dallas 2 Chicago 5 5.5 -101 -109 O GAME 1: LOST -1.09 UNITS
11/1/08 A Dallas 1 Boston 5 5.5 119 -129 O GAME 2: LOST -1.41 UNITS (CONFLICTING PLAY, REDUCED BET)
11/7/08 A Dallas Anaheim



EVERY GAME on the NHL schedule is a play tonight. Hopefully it's an UNDER dominated night. Good luck!!
 

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Correction

CORRECTION, the Ottawa @ Carolina line is 6, not 5.5 as listed above. The play still remains for the same amount:

OVER 6 - Ottawa at Carolina to win 2.3 (Game 2)
 

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Chara, Z. (17:15 in 3rd)... Grabovski, M. (18:06 in 3rd)... Wheeler, B. (19:07 in 3rd)... Can't win when that kind of shit happens. The hockey gods owe us for this one.

Also, the coach if he's down late by 2 goals he'll pull the goalie really early with say 2 minutes to play. I had a Leafs game in October to go under 5.5, they're at 5 goals needing 1 more to make my bet a loss, the coach of leafs pulls the goalie with 2 and a half minutes to play in the 3rd period!!! I end up winning my bet though as Tampa Bay sucks enough that they can't score.
 

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Friday, November 6, 2008 results

LIST:
UNDER 5.5 - Atlanta 5 at Buffalo 4 - LOST -0.86 units
UNDER 5.5 - Montreal 3 at Columbus 4 - LOST -2.04 units
OVER 6 - Ottawa 1 at Carolina 2 - LOST -1.87 units
UNDER 5.5 - Dallas 5 at Anaheim 2 - LOST -5 units. SERIES LOSS.
TOTAL - 0-4-0 for -9.77 units.


UPDATED RECORDS:
GAME 1: 19-22-0
GAME 2: 9-8-1
GAME 3: 2-6-0
TOTAL PLAYS: 30-36-1 (45.5%)
SERIES RECORD: 34-6 (-20.93 units)




Disastrous night. Complete opposite of everything. And two more Game 3's tomorrow...
 

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It'd be interesting to know the individual records of the system for both under and overs.

The under plays are killing this system. Thing is the new rules are definitly making an impact. Vegas are being very stubborn with their lines though. Nearly every line is at 5.5.
 

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It'd be interesting to know the individual records of the system for both under and overs.

The under plays are killing this system. Thing is the new rules are definitly making an impact. Vegas are being very stubborn with their lines though. Nearly every line is at 5.5.

I couldn't agree more. The OVER CHASE has only lost 1 series... the Pittsburgh series, where they recorded 6 straight UNDERS. Every other loss (5 of them) have come from chasing the UNDER.

The strange part is, not many of these games are losing by only 1 goal (as in 5.5 total ending at 6 goals.) In most cases they are being beaten big and early. Dallas was 7 goals on a 5.5 line... Detroit 7 goals on a 6 line... Nashville 7 goals on a 5.5 line... St Louis 7 goals on a 5.5 line... Vancouver 6 goals on a 5.5 line. In only 2 of these cases, I can remember being beaten in the closing minutes. Everything else was pretty much over by the end of the 2nd period.

But yeah, if you stick to chasing OVERS ONLY, you would have only 1 series loss (with the Ottawa Game 3 coming up.) I believe the SERIES RECORD is 19-1.
 

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Saturday, November 8, 2008 plays

Saturday, November 8, 2008 plays:

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OVER 5 - Minnesota at Vancouver to win 1 (Game 1) DOUBLE PLAY
UNDER 5.5 - St. Louis at Los Angeles to win 1 (Game 1) *** CONFLICT, SKIP THIS PLAY
OVER 5 - Minnesota at Vancouver to win 1 (Game 1) DOUBLE PLAY
OVER 5.5 - NY Rangers at Washington to win 1 (Game 1)
OVER 5.5 - St. Louis at Los Angeles to win 1.96 (Game 2) *** CONFLICT, PLAY THIS TO WIN ONLY 0.96 UNITS
UNDER 5.5 - Calgary at Columbus to win 4.16 (Game 3)
UNDER 5.5 - Montreal at Toronto to win 3.86 (Game 3)


*** CONFLICTING PLAYS are resolved by subtracting the "TO WIN" amounts. Whichever is remaining when you subtract the difference is the play, and you bet the difference only. So we're taking the OVER in this series.

DETAILS:
DATE H/A TEAM OPPONENT LINE OVER UNDER RESULT DESCRIPTION
10/30/08 H Minnesota 1 Montreal 2 5.5 133 -143 U
11/1/08 A Minnesota 3 Phoenix 2 5 -120 110 P
11/4/08 A Minnesota 1 San Jose 3 5 -116 106 U
11/6/08 A Minnesota 3 Colorado 1 5.5 113 -123 U
11/8/08 A Minnesota Vancouver

11/1/08 H St. Louis 3 Pittsburgh 6 5 -130 120 O
11/5/08 A St. Louis 2 Anaheim 5 5.5 116 -126 O
11/6/08 A St. Louis 4 San Jose 5 5.5 112 -122 O
11/8/08 A St. Louis Los Angeles

11/2/08 H Vancouver 2 Detroit 3 5.5 105 -115 U
11/4/08 H Vancouver 4 Nashville 0 5.5 -111 101 U
11/6/08 H Vancouver 1 Phoenix 0 5.5 115 -125 U
11/8/08 H Vancouver Minnesota

11/1/08 A Washington 0 Buffalo 5 5.5 -111 101 U
11/4/08 A Washington 1 Ottawa 2 5.5 -132 122 U
11/6/08 H Washington 3 Carolina 2 6 107 -117 U
11/8/08 H Washington NY Rangers

10/30/08 H Los Angeles 0 Vancouver 4 5.5 -119 109 U
11/1/08 H Los Angeles 2 Calgary 3 5.5 -108 -102 U
11/4/08 H Los Angeles 0 Anaheim 1 5.5 -108 -102 U
11/6/08 H Los Angeles 3 Florida 2 5.5 104 -114 U GAME 1: LOST -0.96 UNITS
11/8/08 H Los Angeles St. Louis

10/30/08 A Columbus 4 Colorado 2 5.5 -121 111 O
11/1/08 H Columbus 3 Chicago 4 5.5 104 -114 O
11/3/08 A Columbus 3 NY Islanders 4 5.5 -111 101 O
11/5/08 H Columbus 5 Edmonton 4 5.5 102 -112 O GAME 1: LOST -1.12 UNITS
11/7/08 H Columbus 4 Montreal 3 5.5 -114 104 O GAME 2: LOST -2.04 UNITS
11/8/08 H Columbus Calgary

10/29/08 A Toronto 6 New Jersey 5 5 -118 108 O
11/1/08 H Toronto 5 NY Rangers 2 5.5 122 -132 O
11/2/08 A Toronto 4 Carolina 6 5.5 -102 -108 O
11/4/08 H Toronto 4 Carolina 5 5.5 -132 122 O GAME 1: LOST -0.82 UNITS
11/6/08 A Toronto 2 Boston 5 5.5 102 -112 O GAME 2: LOST -2.04 UNITS
11/8/08 H Toronto Montreal




GOOD LUCK!!
 

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Quick note about the unit count...

Although the unit count is correct (-20.93 units,) I wanted to put a quick word in about those getting discouraged or losing faith. I just wanted to make a quick note about WHERE these 21 units are, and how realistic it is that we'll be getting them back. These are the units we have INVESTED:

ATL -0.86 GAME 1
CHI -0.88 GAME 1
CLB -1.12 GAME 1
CLB -2.04 GAME 2
LA -0.96 GAME 1
OTT -1.3 GAME 1
OTT -1.87 GAME 2
TOR -0.82 GAME 1
TOR -2.04 GAME 2
TOTAL -11.89

There are almost 12 units invested in the unfinished series ahead of us. Now I'm not saying its easy, but if all of these win, we can add the 11.89 back to our unit count ALONG WITH 6 units of profit from those series. In total that would be a 17.89 unit swing, and we would only be slightly down.

I know this isn't an easy task. I just wanted to point out that the 21 units are not flushed away, and this is exactly why we have a 40 unit bankroll to start the season. Remember, we are still only 1 month into this season.

Keep the faith... I know I will
 

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WOW:think2:, see post # 32...Thanks BBB for running this thread

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I know there were a lot of under chases in the past...mainly cuz of the different style of hockey being played prior to the lockout.
The over seems to hit more frequently this year (and last year)....
so maybe playing ONLY over chases may not be a bad idea.
 

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yeh the over plays are hitting good.

any idea on the record numbers for over chases last year BBB?
 

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Saturday, November 8, 2008 results

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OVER 5 - Minnesota 0 at Vancouver 2 - LOST -1.03 units
UNDER 5.5 - St. Louis 3 at Los Angeles 5 - DID NOT PLAY (CONFLICT.)
OVER 5 - Minnesota 0 at Vancouver 2 - LOST -1.03 units
OVER 5.5 - NY Rangers 1 at Washington 3 - LOST -0.83 units
OVER 5.5 - St. Louis 3 at Los Angeles 5 - WON 0.96 units (REDUCED BET, CONFLICT)
UNDER 5.5 - Calgary 1 at Columbus 3 - WON 4.16 units
UNDER 5.5 - Montreal 3 at Toronto 6 - LOST -3.09 units. SERIES LOSS.
TOTAL - 2-4-0 for -0.86 units.


UPDATED RECORDS:
GAME 1: 19-25-0
GAME 2: 10-8-1
GAME 3: 3-7-0
TOTAL PLAYS: 32-40-1 (44.4%)
SERIES RECORD: 37-7 (-21.79 units)





Well, we split the Game 3s on an UNDER dominated night in the NHL (9-3)... Figures, the one night we have mainly overs is the night nobody wants to score.

RECORD KEEPING NOTE--After the Dallas Game 3 last night, I forgot to add the BOSTON SERIES WIN to the SERIES RECORD. I have adjusted the number along with tonight's results... so those who can do basic math and can see that 34 plus 2 does not equal 37, there is your answer why.
 

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I know there were a lot of under chases in the past...mainly cuz of the different style of hockey being played prior to the lockout.
The over seems to hit more frequently this year (and last year)....
so maybe playing ONLY over chases may not be a bad idea.

Well, this system has only been tracked since post-lockout. There would be no point going back before that, because quite simply it was a different game.

This year, there have been 106 OVERS 95 UNDERS 6 PUSHES on totals. So it's been fairly even for the most part... you have your over nights, you have your under nights... it more or less evens out. The problem might be team-based... as in certain teams just playing a certain type of hockey (whether it be due to injury, style, etc) and the totals just being lop sided. Below, highlighted are the teams with a gap of 4, OR MORE THAN 4, games between totals (5-1, 2-6, 10-3, etc):

TEAM O-U-P
Anaheim 8-6-1
Atlanta 9-5-0
Boston 8-6-0
Buffalo 6-7-0
Calgary 7-8-0
Carolina 6-8-0
Chicago 8-3-1
Colorado 8-6-0
Columbus 10-4-1
Dallas 10-3-1
Detroit 8-4-0
Edmonton 5-7-0
Florida 4-9-0
Los Angeles 6-6-0
Minnesota 5-6-2
Montreal 7-4-0
Nashville 8-6-0
New Jersey 5-5-2
NY Islanders 10-3-0
NY Rangers 6-9-1
Ottawa 5-9-0
Philadelphia 8-5-0
Phoenix 3-7-1
Pittsburgh 5-9-0
San Jose 7-7-0
St. Louis 10-3-0
Tampa Bay 5-7-0
Toronto 9-5-0
Vancouver 9-6-0
Washington 7-6-0

Note that 5 of our 7 series losses are from highlighted teams. Three more of the highlights (Atlanta, Chicago and Ottawa) are on Game 2 or further chase, with Ottawa on Game 3. All you can gather from this is that the streaky teams are hurting us (no shit, huh?)... but most of the "streaky teams" are over-favored.

Which brings me back to the point that these 5.5 lines MUST be adjusted... but the NHL is 106-95-6 this year, which is very close to 50%, so then do they really need to be changed? :think2:
 

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hi illoked at ly nimberrs at th begining of ty and if i remember correctly isles,devils and rangers were big unders and edmonton was a big over oh anaheim was an unde also. to qualify for a big number it was + 8-10 units most of the teams wind up + or - a few units fro avewrage. Isles have become a big over dont know if itw new coach or weaker team. but, as you kno most teams will eventually get to the middle average. i think vacouver started oat 7-0 over and now is 9-6 so last 6 games 2-4 the other way. I wonder i the schedule change is more of an issue than the new rules last yr one played the division team more and this may have led to more intense games and thus more of a 2 over 2 under type of series as opposed to now. anyhow just some thoughts i know it tough for you but isuspect that you will prevail best of luck heart222
 

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