Hahaha very possible Bills win bothFair point. I'll check back in on 12/26 and add 2 wins over New England to the list.
I think the Bills are still the better team and should be able to hold them off. I’m just semi surprised at New England’s turnaround. They are gonna be a tough out because of that defense .
Their lack of firepower on offense will probably doom them but at least the division is gonna be competitive. How long has it been since we’ve seen a truly competitive AFC East??
I'll take a stab at this
I think in the AFC it's especially tough for those wild card teams. Patriots seem like a nice bet to take one of the three, but also think the Colts/Browns/Steelers will be right there with Chargers and Bengals. Basically 5 similar teams
In the NFC I think the West is gonna start to beat each other up a little more. Could see Cards and Rams both struggle down the stretch
AFC
1 Ravens
2 Chiefs
3 Bills
4 Titans
5 Patriots
6 Chargers
7 Bengals
NFC
1 Cowboys
2 Packers
3 Bucs
4 Cardinals
5 Rams
6 Saints
7 49ers
I think in the AFC it's especially tough for those wild card teams. Patriots seem like a nice bet to take one of the three, but also think the Colts/Browns/Steelers will be right there with Chargers and Bengals. Basically 5 similar teams
In the NFC I think the West is gonna start to beat each other up a little more. Could see Cards and Rams both struggle down the stretch
AFC
1 Ravens
2 Chiefs
3 Bills
4 Titans
5 Patriots
6 Chargers
7 Bengals
NFC
1 Cowboys
2 Packers
3 Bucs
4 Cardinals
5 Rams
6 Saints
7 49ers
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Don't give up, don't ever give up
What says more about the Pats that they are 5-0 on the road or that they are 2-3 vs winning teams?
With that being said....considering it is the Pats and they have a growing rookie QB what is most important is how they are playing towards the end of the season. And so far they look like they are improving or have improved
Yep you're right. Originally had them 2 or 3. Probably should've kept them there
I'm just gonna say they figure out a way to lose like 3 in a row at some point, combined with Chiefs and Bills heating up a bit.
I do think Tennessee is gonna regress quite a bit so I wouldn't be shocked if they lose one to the Jags or something like that down the stretch.
But you're right. Very unlikely
You guys get way too into schedule like it is CFB compared to just looking at how the team has played.
Killing bad teams is more predictive of future success than close wins vs good teams.....The Panthers have a top D, the Browns got blown off the field, Dallas/TB came down to the final moments. NE clearly outplayed Miami.
NE is a top 8-10 team in pretty much every reasonable power ranking metric...DVOA, FPI, PFF
Every other team in the NFL that is considered a SB contender (sans Arizona who is all banged up right now) was considered 1 from before the season, so what else should people talk about? You can only say Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady are good so many times.
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Love it.
The more you guys underestimate New England the better lines I get. I'm sure Willie is loving this conversation.
They have a complete team. Offense, Defense, and Special Teams.
They have the best coach in history and a cool headed, smart QB who is one tenth of a point behind Dak Prescott for the second most accurate QB in the NFL.
Late turnovers cost them wins over Miami, Tampa Bay, and even Dallas. New Orleans is really the only team that beat them soundly.
Belly teams get better as the season progresses. This team is right in that mold.
Good luck betting against them. They are a top echelon AFC team. You will find out in the next four weeks (Tenny, Buff, Indy, Buff).
Good luck.
The more you guys underestimate New England the better lines I get. I'm sure Willie is loving this conversation.
They have a complete team. Offense, Defense, and Special Teams.
They have the best coach in history and a cool headed, smart QB who is one tenth of a point behind Dak Prescott for the second most accurate QB in the NFL.
Late turnovers cost them wins over Miami, Tampa Bay, and even Dallas. New Orleans is really the only team that beat them soundly.
Belly teams get better as the season progresses. This team is right in that mold.
Good luck betting against them. They are a top echelon AFC team. You will find out in the next four weeks (Tenny, Buff, Indy, Buff).
Good luck.
I think Tenny will be a tougher matchup than Buffalo. I think we have a chance to beat Buff in both games. Buffalo does not run the ball well from the RB position. Josh Allen is a wildcard because he does run, and effectively. But his passing game is heavily weighed to downfield. I think the Pats defense that big passing game this year.
I expect the Pats to be in dogfights in both the Buff games, and the Tenny game. Turnovers will be crucial in all three games.
Let's say this, the Pats D is as good or better than those teams and the Pats offense is more balanced than those two teams. The Pats passing game is not sexy. The deep balls are few. But Mr Accuracy, Mac Jones, picks you apart patiently. The run game is well above average. The Pats special teams are superb, FG kicker, punter, punt returner, and punt and kickoff coverage.
Their young offensive players are learning the importance of not giving the ball away. Turnovers cost them early games.
Those games are gonna be must see football. I think the probability of the Pats going 3-1 is better than their odds of going 1-3.
We'll see.
Hilarious.
You are a square homer who is incapable of looking at things objectively when it comes to your team. Let me help you. Here is what breaking down a team objectively looks like..
* New England has one of the top defenses in the league
* New England has been steadily improving as the season progresses
* New England has arguably the best coach of all-time leading them
* New England is 7-4 and at this point looks like a solid playoff team
And..
* New England lacks explosiveness on the outside offensively to stretch the field
* New England has a rookie QB who has played well and within the system, but is clearly limited at this point in his career
* The Bills are still the favorite to win the division (and the Super Bowl) for good reason
There. That's what objectivity looks like.
That's what objectivity looks like from a pompous ass.
What did you say that I didn't?
I also talked about special teams which you omitted.
PS Objectivity is saying a QB has the third best accuracy rate in the league. Subjectively is saying that the QB hasn "played well and within the system but is clearly limited at this point in his career."
And you neglected to respond to my whole point of the post which was to say that you guys are helping to create line value for Patriot bettors.
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That's even more hilarious.
The few people posting in this thread have zero to do with any Patriot "line value" that you perceive. 2-3 random recreational gamblers posting NFL opinions on a message board influence the lines. Yeah. Ok. If that was your "whole point" then it makes you look even more square.
