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Illini - I asked you before if you saw the play?

A-Rod just barked at him as he went by, it wasn't near as bad as it may sound if you haven't seen it.
Haven't seen it, and it's not on now. What he said is irrelevant.
 

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Well he's wrong....

For God Sake, A-Rod said "HA"...he did admit "we're desperate" though lol

He also said it happens to him 5 times a week, I guess he's lying.

I hope NY gets back in this thing.
 

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Plenty more fun to watch Pro Golfing if they were permitted to run the same kinda smak we run when I play golf with my buds.
 

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ILLINI insists: That is in the rules. It's an intentional drop, and it's a dead ball. If it wasn't in the rules, then every line drive would get dropped and be a double play.

SH: Wouldn't mind a cite on this one. I'm unaware of any rule mandating the fielder must catch the line drive.

What you're likely thinking of is the infield fly rule which would be in effect with either 1st/2nd or BasesLoaded under 2 outs.

It was established to prevent routine pop ups from being a sure force out on the lead runners and possibly a double play.

The ump must call it while in the air.

Line drives are much different with no time for the ump to call infield fly and also with most runners very near their base.
I'm not looking it up, but you can trust me on this one. 1st, or 1st and 3rd with less than two outs, you can't intentionally drop a ball to get a double play. You can let it bounce first, if the batter doesn't run. But if it hits your glove and then you drop it......dead ball, batter's out.
 

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Well he's wrong....

For God Sake, A-Rod said "HA"...he did admit "we're desperate" though lol

He also said it happens to him 5 times a week, I guess he's lying.

I hope NY gets back in this thing.
me too hate yanks and sox twin man here....but if yanks dont get back in sad sad AL EAST it will be
 

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I think this is being blown out of proportion, just watch the play on ESPN News it will be shown 10 million times...he didn't even say 'I got it' he just made a sound of some sort. :think2: 3rd baseman choked.

BS, I was watching the game and heard nothing but to say 3rd base choked is ridiculous. He simply did not attempt to make the catch of the pop up, as if the shortstop behind him said "I got it" and so he gave way.
 

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I'm not looking it up, but you can trust me on this one. 1st, or 1st and 3rd with less than two outs, you can't intentionally drop a ball to get a double play. You can let it bounce first, if the batter doesn't run. But if it hits your glove and then you drop it......dead ball, batter's out.

Illini, you're thinking of the infeild flyball rule.

It's not an automatic dead ball if an infeilder drops a sharp line drive.

It's an umpire judgement call.

In this case, umpire called the fake (and in most). Other times, line drives are just too fast to catch.
 

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Haven't seen it, and it's not on now. What he said is irrelevant.


He also admitted it happens 5 times a week to him... So ,assuming he's telling the truth -and I see no reason why he would throw that out there, then what exactly is the difference?

Watch the play and then come back :missingte 'ha'


He could have yelled "everybody was kung fu fighting" and it still shouldnt have mattered. :missingte

Go Yanks! I have a hunch NY is going to go off now.:aktion033
 

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ILLINI: The difference is that the infield fly is called immediately, and is a live ball, whether it's caught or dropped. Runners can advance if it's dropped.

SH: But the batter is out in either case so the force is removed.
 

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BS, I was watching the game and heard nothing but to say 3rd base choked is ridiculous. He simply did not attempt to make the catch of the pop up, as if the shortstop behind him said "I got it" and so he gave way.

he was 'spooked'...choked wasn't the right word...he should have made the play Woody , cmon.....ARod wasn't even that close....

The BlowJays need to address their own lame record to date.
 

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ILLINI: The difference is that the infield fly is called immediately, and is a live ball, whether it's caught or dropped. Runners can advance if it's dropped.

SH: But the batter is out in either case so the force is removed.

There were two outs. :youmad:
 

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ILLINI: The difference is that the infield fly is called immediately, and is a live ball, whether it's caught or dropped. Runners can advance if it's dropped.

SH: But the batter is out in either case so the force is removed.
The force is removed, but it's a live ball and runners can advance. Intentional drop is a dead ball, and it's not called until the guy intentionally drops it. Players know this rule and that is why you won't see it called often.
 

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ILLINI: But if it hits your glove and then you drop it......dead ball, batter's out.

SH: No way, man.

What if it hits the heel of your glove and bounces to the ground?

What if it hits 2/3 in your pocket and legitimately pops right back out?

In both cases that's a live ball my friend. The umpire has no call to determine intent to catch it.<!-- / message -->
 

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Illini, you're thinking of the infeild flyball rule.

It's not an automatic dead ball if an infeilder drops a sharp line drive.

It's an umpire judgement call.

In this case, umpire called the fake (and in most). Other times, line drives are just too fast to catch.
It's a judgment call, but it's easy to tell if a guy drops it intentionally. It would be closely followed by a throw to 2nd base to start a double play. Infield fly is with 1st and 2nd. Logic is simple......any fly ball to the infield would be a double play. Intentional drop is for runner on 1st, or 1st and 3rd. It's almost never called, and it's only called if it's intentionally dropped. If a slow guy hits a popup with a runner on 1st, there's nothing stopping the infielder from letting the ball hit the ground, then picking it up to force the speedy guy at 2nd. It just can't hit his glove first.
 

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Barman what are you talking about???

#1- There were 2 outs so no double play possibilities.
#2- There were 2 outs so no they cannot have 1st and 3rd 0 outs.
 

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he was 'spooked'...choked wasn't the right word...he should have made the play Woody , cmon.....ARod wasn't even that close....

The BlowJays need to address their own lame record to date.

Spooked BS Jman, it was a routine out and the only way he could not attempt to make the catch was if he was called off. Also Arod passed behind him within 5-6 feet.

As I said I was watching the game and it was unbelieveable. He had to think he was called off and therefore it seems Arod made a bush league play.
 

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ILLINI: But if it hits your glove and then you drop it......dead ball, batter's out.

SH: No way, man.

What if it hits the heel of your glove and bounces to the ground?

What if it hits 2/3 in your pocket and legitimately pops right back out?

In both cases that's a live ball my friend. The umpire has no call to determine intent to catch it.<!-- / message -->
It has to be an intentionally dropped ball, to be called an intentional drop. Obviously, if a guy has to make more than ordinary effort, and it bounces off part of his glove, then the rule would not apply.
 

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Haha, A-Rod is so proud of himself. That shit is hilarious, I could see that a million times. I'm not understanding where the hostility is coming from, I can't believe Toronto fell for that shit.

A-Rod even just said, that shit happens all the time on a flyball near the dugout of another team.

It's funnier that he said "Ahhhhhh" and not "I got it", actually. Equivilant to about "boo", when you're in kindergarten.
 

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Intentional drop is a dead ball, and it's not called until the guy intentionally drops it. Players know this rule and that is why you won't see it called often.

SH: I'm calling shenannigans until I see a cite.

Yeah you might get the cheap force in exchange for the batter, but while you're busy knocking it down and picking it up, you're losing steps on the batter....not an assured DP at all.<!-- / message -->
 

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Just saw the play, and agree wholeheartedly with ESPN's comments. Respect the game, A-Rod. That is why this shit will not be happening again, anytime soon.
 

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