I'm not looking it up, but you can trust me on this one. 1st, or 1st and 3rd with less than two outs, you can't intentionally drop a ball to get a double play. You can let it bounce first, if the batter doesn't run. But if it hits your glove and then you drop it......dead ball, batter's out.ILLINI insists: That is in the rules. It's an intentional drop, and it's a dead ball. If it wasn't in the rules, then every line drive would get dropped and be a double play.
SH: Wouldn't mind a cite on this one. I'm unaware of any rule mandating the fielder must catch the line drive.
What you're likely thinking of is the infield fly rule which would be in effect with either 1st/2nd or BasesLoaded under 2 outs.
It was established to prevent routine pop ups from being a sure force out on the lead runners and possibly a double play.
The ump must call it while in the air.
Line drives are much different with no time for the ump to call infield fly and also with most runners very near their base.
me too hate yanks and sox twin man here....but if yanks dont get back in sad sad AL EAST it will beWell he's wrong....
For God Sake, A-Rod said "HA"...he did admit "we're desperate" though lol
He also said it happens to him 5 times a week, I guess he's lying.
I hope NY gets back in this thing.
I think this is being blown out of proportion, just watch the play on ESPN News it will be shown 10 million times...he didn't even say 'I got it' he just made a sound of some sort. :think2: 3rd baseman choked.
I'm not looking it up, but you can trust me on this one. 1st, or 1st and 3rd with less than two outs, you can't intentionally drop a ball to get a double play. You can let it bounce first, if the batter doesn't run. But if it hits your glove and then you drop it......dead ball, batter's out.
Haven't seen it, and it's not on now. What he said is irrelevant.
BS, I was watching the game and heard nothing but to say 3rd base choked is ridiculous. He simply did not attempt to make the catch of the pop up, as if the shortstop behind him said "I got it" and so he gave way.
The force is removed, but it's a live ball and runners can advance. Intentional drop is a dead ball, and it's not called until the guy intentionally drops it. Players know this rule and that is why you won't see it called often.ILLINI: The difference is that the infield fly is called immediately, and is a live ball, whether it's caught or dropped. Runners can advance if it's dropped.
SH: But the batter is out in either case so the force is removed.
It's a judgment call, but it's easy to tell if a guy drops it intentionally. It would be closely followed by a throw to 2nd base to start a double play. Infield fly is with 1st and 2nd. Logic is simple......any fly ball to the infield would be a double play. Intentional drop is for runner on 1st, or 1st and 3rd. It's almost never called, and it's only called if it's intentionally dropped. If a slow guy hits a popup with a runner on 1st, there's nothing stopping the infielder from letting the ball hit the ground, then picking it up to force the speedy guy at 2nd. It just can't hit his glove first.Illini, you're thinking of the infeild flyball rule.
It's not an automatic dead ball if an infeilder drops a sharp line drive.
It's an umpire judgement call.
In this case, umpire called the fake (and in most). Other times, line drives are just too fast to catch.
he was 'spooked'...choked wasn't the right word...he should have made the play Woody , cmon.....ARod wasn't even that close....
The BlowJays need to address their own lame record to date.
It has to be an intentionally dropped ball, to be called an intentional drop. Obviously, if a guy has to make more than ordinary effort, and it bounces off part of his glove, then the rule would not apply.ILLINI: But if it hits your glove and then you drop it......dead ball, batter's out.
SH: No way, man.
What if it hits the heel of your glove and bounces to the ground?
What if it hits 2/3 in your pocket and legitimately pops right back out?
In both cases that's a live ball my friend. The umpire has no call to determine intent to catch it.<!-- / message -->