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Well, my point was (and is) that if they are two consenting adults who are in a committed relationship, then it is my opinion that it should be allowed.

Who am I to stand in the way of their happiness?


Now let me ask you, what does more harm to the sanctity of a marriage? Two older ladies (or gentlemen) who decide to get married after decades together, or the guy in his thirties who is getting divorced for the third time?

BTW, I happen to know this very situation.

Allowing a heterosexual couple to divorce is a lot less damaging to society than redefining marriage to be two men or two women. What is more damaging, one divorce or one gay marriage, who knows?
 

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Great thread as I think FZ makes some very compelling points.

I wish someone was making as coherent an argument on the other side, as I enjoy reading an intelligent debate.
 

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Some great points made in this thread from both sides.

I don't give two shits what two dudes do or two girls do with their lives. If they're happy, good for them. But...I take a stance when it comes to adoption by homosexual couples. A child needs to be brought up with the perspective of a man and a woman as both genders bring something different to the table. It's just my opinion.

Also, I don't care about them marrying but a church should also be able to not marry a homosexual couple if they don't want to.

Finally, it's been brought up at least 10 times for Justine to justify his "gay gene" comment but he's avoided it throughout the entire thread. Says a lot about his intelligence about this topic. Justin, you'd earn respect if you just admitted you were wrong and move on. Avoiding it just makes it worse junior.
 

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Great thread as I think FZ makes some very compelling points.

I wish someone was making as coherent an argument on the other side, as I enjoy reading an intelligent debate.

You mean his coherent points about people are going to end up marrying animals if two guys or girls are allowed to? Yea, that's a solid argument.
 
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You mean his coherent points about people are going to end up marrying animals if two guys or girls are allowed to? Yea, that's a solid argument.

Of course the forum troll accuses me of saying something I never said, but hey that's what trolls do.
 

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Can you imagine the kid having Les Miles and Nick Saban over for a recruiting visit? Hey Les, this is my dad Steve and my other dad Mike. My mom sold me. But I think I wanna go to LSU.
 

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^lol i really dont think it would go down like that if it did happen................a lot of females dont need kids and giving them up is the best option
 

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Allowing a heterosexual couple to divorce is a lot less damaging to society than redefining marriage to be two men or two women. What is more damaging, one divorce or one gay marriage, who knows?

That heterosexual divorce in my life caused me lots of pain. Still live with it today and my kids feel the effect by not having their Grandmother and Grandfather in the same room at Christmas, Thanksgiving, birthdays, graduations and so on...

Divorce sucks, especially when your kids feel the effect, it doesn't go away.

Gay marriage would not destroy or hurt the "sanctity" of marriage. That "sanctity" was gone a long time ago and present time marriage statistics PROVE it.
Fucking drunk people wed every day in Vegas what the fuck is special about that?

Let me say this before I get to work. I don't really care if a gay couple get married. Hell, my gay brother in law doesn't even care as I'm sure many other gays feel that way.
I voiced my opinion in this thread when Zit compared gay marriage to bestiality. Just dumb and way over the top. Then people start going on about the "being gay kills people".

I simply feel every human should have that right if desired.
 

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Can you imagine the kid having Les Miles and Nick Saban over for a recruiting visit? Hey Les, this is my dad Steve and my other dad Mike. My mom sold me. But I think I wanna go to LSU.

OMG the world would stop spinning!
 

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Great thread as I think FZ makes some very compelling points.

I wish someone was making as coherent an argument on the other side, as I enjoy reading an intelligent debate.

pretty scary you think a coherent argument is human vs human love is = to bestiality and if they raise a child that is = to child abuse

fact is this is a country that is supposed to keep a separation between church and state. Anti-gays like to talk about the sanctity of marriage while 2.4M Americans divorced last year. Republicans, in particular, somehow walk the hypocrisy bridge by talking about personal freedoms but when it comes to certain segments of the population, like the 5% homosexuals in the usa, they don't qualify?

i really don't care if gays marry or not. chances are they'd value marriage a hell of a lot more than the 35%+ that currently divorce and since adoption is a true choice the child will probably have a much higher standard of living than if the parent(s) that gave him up were prepared for.

I pretty much say the same thing over and over and that none of these social issues are federal issues. States should be able to govern themselves and choose whether they want an income tax, make weed legal, or allow gays to marry and/or adopt.

what pisses me off is that 4-5% of Americans get this much press and I have their issue shoved in my face daily by the gaystream media. At this point it's infringing on my personal freedoms (half joking there). It's completely fn impossible to avoid hearing about it as they parade Michael Sams 5.75 40 in front of me while having Ellen host the Oscars. Again, not a federal issue...govt should NOT be interfering or even discussing this. Leave it up to the states...simple
 
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pretty scary you think a coherent argument is human vs human love is = to bestiality and if they raise a child that is = to child abuse

fact is this is a country that is supposed to keep a separation between church and state. Anti-gays like to talk about the sanctity of marriage while 2.4M Americans divorced last year. Republicans, in particular, somehow walk the hypocrisy bridge by talking about personal freedoms but when it comes to certain segments of the population, like the 5% homosexuals in the usa, they don't qualify?

i really don't care if gays marry or not. chances are they'd value marriage a hell of a lot more than the 35%+ that currently divorce and since adoption is a true choice the child will probably have a much higher standard of living than if the parent(s) that gave him up were prepared for.

I pretty much say the same thing over and over and that none of these social issues are federal issues. States should be able to govern themselves and choose whether they want an income tax, make weed legal, or allow gays to marry and/or adopt.

what pisses me off is that 4-5% of Americans get this much press and I have their issue shoved in my face daily by the gaystream media. At this point it's infringing on my personal freedoms (half joking there). It's completely fn impossible to avoid hearing about it as they parade Michael Sams 5.75 40 in front of me while having Ellen host the Oscars. Again, not a federal issue...govt should NOT be interfering or even discussing this. Leave it up to the states...simple

Pretty sad when all you guys can do is distort my argument and throw up a straw-man. I said very clearly that I would be fine with giving gays the same civil rights as marriages get, tax-wise... just call it a civil union, and leave marriages to the churches. My point about bestiality, is that you can't let the so-called "happiness" of some
small group dictate (and redefine) foundational aspects of culture.
 

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pretty scary you think a coherent argument is human vs human love is = to bestiality and if they raise a child that is = to child abuse

fact is this is a country that is supposed to keep a separation between church and state. Anti-gays like to talk about the sanctity of marriage while 2.4M Americans divorced last year. Republicans, in particular, somehow walk the hypocrisy bridge by talking about personal freedoms but when it comes to certain segments of the population, like the 5% homosexuals in the usa, they don't qualify?

i really don't care if gays marry or not. chances are they'd value marriage a hell of a lot more than the 35%+ that currently divorce and since adoption is a true choice the child will probably have a much higher standard of living than if the parent(s) that gave him up were prepared for.

I pretty much say the same thing over and over and that none of these social issues are federal issues. States should be able to govern themselves and choose whether they want an income tax, make weed legal, or allow gays to marry and/or adopt.

what pisses me off is that 4-5% of Americans get this much press and I have their issue shoved in my face daily by the gaystream media. At this point it's infringing on my personal freedoms (half joking there). It's completely fn impossible to avoid hearing about it as they parade Michael Sams 5.75 40 in front of me while having Ellen host the Oscars. Again, not a federal issue...govt should NOT be interfering or even discussing this. Leave it up to the states...simple

Hey now Ellen was fantastic on the Oscars… actually one of the only woman comedians that makes me laugh
 

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Finally, it's been brought up at least 10 times for Justine to justify his "gay gene" comment but he's avoided it throughout the entire thread. Says a lot about his intelligence about this topic. Justin, you'd earn respect if you just admitted you were wrong and move on. Avoiding it just makes it worse junior.


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Hey now Ellen was fantastic on the Oscars… actually one of the only woman comedians that makes me laugh
don't think i've ever laughed at a single thing she said. now sarah silverman and/or amy schumer is a different story.
 

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Has anyone else noticed how festeringzit is never wrong. No matter what the argument is about, he's always right. It's always the other person who is an "idiot" and "retarded."

Folks, why waste time arguing with someone who is batshit crazy? Why even waste time arguing opinions. Let's present evidence for both sides and let science do the talking.

because it's comical to see someone preach verses from a 2000 year old book that clearly doesn't live a very Christian life. Dude hates everybody which I'm pretty sure is not what Christ was advocating. Plenty of people are pieces of shit for 6 days and 23 hours a week but feel cleansed after sitting in a pew for 1 hour on a Sunday and he's a tremendous representation of this.

now that doesn't absolve the resident pro-gay from giving us this proof the "gay gene".... I just enjoy the radical fringe that these subjects pull out of the woodwork
 
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because it's comical to see someone preach verses from a 2000 year old book that clearly doesn't live a very Christian life. Dude hates everybody which I'm pretty sure is not what Christ was advocating. Plenty of people are pieces of shit for 6 days and 23 hours a week but feel cleansed after sitting in a pew for 1 hour on a Sunday and he's a tremendous representation of this.

now that doesn't absolve the resident pro-gay from giving us this proof the "gay gene".... I just enjoy the radical fringe that these subjects pull out of the woodwork

I hate everybody? I'm a piece of shit 6 days and 23 hours a week?

So much for our little truce huh Rolltide? You had to get your little cheap shot in.

You're quite the class act.
 

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Fucking drunk people wed every day in Vegas what the fuck is special about that?

i think i saw this guy playing roulette at Bellagio last may

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I hate everybody? I'm a piece of shit 6 days and 23 hours a week?

So much for our little truce huh Rolltide? You had to get your little cheap shot in.

You're quite the class act.

the bible made me do it Titus 1:9-11
 

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