Are TOUTS Really "That" Bad???

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aceduecetrey said:
Tout- You keep asking people to expose how they know ALL touts are unethical, why dont you enlighten me and tell me of 5 honest ones. Feel free to get my email from a mod and email me your list of legit touts and there is a good chance I will know one or more of them and I will give you prime example of how they are not as legit as you think.

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aceduecetrey said:
Tout- You keep asking people to expose how they know ALL touts are unethical, why dont you enlighten me and tell me of 5 honest ones. Feel free to get my email from a mod and email me your list of legit touts and there is a good chance I will know one or more of them and I will give you prime example of how they are not as legit as you think.

Thank You for Proving the point I was trying to make.

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ok,now here is "my" point,,,you are a worthless,beggin sick desperate people lookin SONOFABITCH! comprende? if you are still confused then go suck a llamas cock.
 

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how did i miss this. go to the sports monitor or national sports monitor. you will see that verry few services have winning records let alone win enough to pay for the service. if one might have a winning record one year 99% wont win the next. if touts were honest they would state their record good or bad and let the costomer make a informed decision.
 

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how did i miss this. go to the sports monitor or national sports monitor. you will see that verry few services have winning records let alone win enough to pay for the service. if one might have a winning record one year 99% wont win the next. if touts were honest they would state their record good or bad and let the costomer make a informed decision.

I would implore you to read the whole thread as you might get a better idea of what this conversation is about. It certainly is not about winning percentages.

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i did read the whole thread. people hate touts because they sell people false hopes of winning.
 

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Hey Ron,

I didn't get a reply from this prior post of mine:

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<HR style="COLOR: #fdde82" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->Hey Big Ron,

What do the touts over at your site pay you for their banners and page? I can see now why you're so touchy on bashing touts. I guess you'd hate to see that paycheck dry up....:nohead:
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Didn't you see it? Since you make money off of touts that puts you in their category of making money off of losing picks.... I guess that doesn't make you an impartial observer, does it?

You act like the RX is the only forum with an attitude towards touts. That's far from the case and you know it.
 

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Hey Ron,

I didn't get a reply from this prior post of mine:


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<HR style="COLOR: #fdde82" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->Hey Big Ron,

What do the touts over at your site pay you for their banners and page? I can see now why you're so touchy on bashing touts. I guess you'd hate to see that paycheck dry up....:nohead:
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Didn't you see it? Since you make money off of touts that puts you in their category of making money off of losing picks.... I guess that doesn't make you an impartial observer, does it?

You act like the RX is the only forum with an attitude towards touts. That's far from the case and you know it.

I never stated that I was impartial, sorry. Good Attempt at a valid point though.

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Also, never in this thread have I attacked the rx as a posting forum. In my opinion this forum is the best in the industry.

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max1234 said:
Hey Ron,

I didn't get a reply from this prior post of mine:


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<HR style="COLOR: #fdde82" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->Hey Big Ron,

What do the touts over at your site pay you for their banners and page? I can see now why you're so touchy on bashing touts. I guess you'd hate to see that paycheck dry up....:nohead:
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Didn't you see it? Since you make money off of touts that puts you in their category of making money off of losing picks.... I guess that doesn't make you an impartial observer, does it?

You act like the RX is the only forum with an attitude towards touts. That's far from the case and you know it.

Yes, I do represent honest sports handicapping services. And Yes I do make a commission of thier sales. And Yes, they do pay me to advertise.

What is your point?
 

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heres my point,,find yourself a llama cock & swallow it,,,,thanks,,,thats my point!!
 

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At least you're honest... but the 'what is your point' question makes you look a little silly. How do you determine who's an 'honest' tout? Have you tracked all of your advertisers for the last several years? Do you personally monitor their records? Do you know all of the plays they give out? Do you know if they have different levels of plays and only post the winners in their records? Do they bait and switch? Do they charge customers erroneously and then deny chargebacks? Do your customers use false advertising? If you can correctly answer all of these things then you're a very busy person who has no life. You keep asking over and over in this thread for proof from people busting on touts so I"m asking for a little myself. Bottom line is you're making money off of touts so that puts you on their side of the line, not ours, that is, potential customers. I'd suggest giving up this arguement while you still have a little dignity left but if not then carry forth this losing agenda and we'll keep on bashing.

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max1234 said:
At least you're honest... but the 'what is your point' question makes you look a little silly. How do you determine who's an 'honest' tout? Have you tracked all of your advertisers for the last several years? Do you personally monitor their records? Do you know all of the plays they give out? Do you know if they have different levels of plays and only post the winners in their records? Do they bait and switch? Do they charge customers erroneously and then deny chargebacks? Do your customers use false advertising? If you can correctly answer all of these things then you're a very busy person who has no life. You keep asking over and over in this thread for proof from people busting on touts so I"m asking for a little myself. Bottom line is you're making money off of touts so that puts you on their side of the line, not ours, that is, potential customers. I'd suggest giving up this arguement while you still have a little dignity left but if not then carry forth this losing agenda and we'll keep on bashing.

GL

Finally a comment worth answering, thank you.

The Touthouse keeps very close track of our handicappers. So yes, the questions you posed are kept in mind constantly as we review who will be displayed on our website. We have turned down over a dozen handicapping services because they have "not" met the requirements that you pose.

And Yes, "The bottom line" is that we are making money of sports handicapping selections and the fact that you even mentioning being on the other side of the "line" is the exact question which I pose.

Why does there have to be a "line". This is something that our Sports Handicapping Website is trying to alleviate. I can also assure you that nobody's dignity will ever be lost on our part. The fact that we can discuss this with a manner of professionalism is a good start. Also the fact that you mention you will keep bashing just for the sake of "bashing" in turn proves the initial points I was trying to convey at the beginning of this commentary.

Thanks for your kind comments,
-BigRon
 

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mrhognuts said:
you are a low down SONOFABITCH

Are you talking about Chuck Luck?

Who wouldn't pay for chucky's picks. He claims to have won 12 out of the last 13 years. Talk about winning %. Chucky is the king of handicappers. He always wins! Call his comp line and he'll tell you, he's bashing the bookies.

Chucky only charges $1500 for the whole season....:pucking:


Cant mention the word tout w/ out chucky's name.

oh, by the way; he lost over 1500 units last year but forgot about them...

this is what happened to chuck's clients....:nohead:
 

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I have been running handicapping contests for years

I rarely have found touts willing to participate. I think it is because we document all picks as soon as games go off. Touts can't say the next day - i went 5-0 last night. Too bad you did not have my picks. Everyone's contest selections are displayed as soon as games start.
 

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Touthouse,

There doesn't have to be a line.... it's just there. You and your ilk have chosen a profession that is rife with scammsters and theives. If you lie with a dog that has fleas then don't whine and bitch when you get fleas yourself.... or don't try to act like you don't have fleas yourself. Either you don't have the balls to play your own picks or they suck in the first place. My basic tenet is that if you're good enough to pick winners then you don't need to sell your picks to make money. You casually mention losing streaks that touts go through and you act like they're supposed to be accepted as the norm. I find that odd because I've never heard of anyone calling into a tout and say 'hey, let me purchase a loser'. People pay for winners and that's something that touts can't deliver all the time. Does any of your advertisers refund the money on all of their losing plays? If they do then might be a little easier to accept purchasing picks. But I'll bet none of your people do this. They might give away a free pick if one loses but what's the guarantee on that? One loser for another? At least the people giving away their picks on this forum aren't profitting from another person's loss... and that's always going to be something you and your touts that pay you can't say. I respect prostitues a lot more than touts. At least with them you're getting what you pay. I'd like to say GL with your forum but since you were honest enough to admit you're getting a cut from all of your tout advertisers I sincerely hope it folds quickly. That way less people will spend money not getting what they think they're purchasing.... a winner everytime.
 

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Touthouse,

There doesn't have to be a line.... it's just there. You and your ilk have chosen a profession that is rife with scammsters and theives. If you lie with a dog that has fleas then don't whine and bitch when you get fleas yourself.... or don't try to act like you don't have fleas yourself. Either you don't have the balls to play your own picks or they suck in the first place. My basic tenet is that if you're good enough to pick winners then you don't need to sell your picks to make money. You casually mention losing streaks that touts go through and you act like they're supposed to be accepted as the norm. I find that odd because I've never heard of anyone calling into a tout and say 'hey, let me purchase a loser'. People pay for winners and that's something that touts can't deliver all the time. Does any of your advertisers refund the money on all of their losing plays? If they do then might be a little easier to accept purchasing picks. But I'll bet none of your people do this. They might give away a free pick if one loses but what's the guarantee on that? One loser for another? At least the people giving away their picks on this forum aren't profitting from another person's loss... and that's always going to be something you and your touts that pay you can't say. I respect prostitues a lot more than touts. At least with them you're getting what you pay. I'd like to say GL with your forum but since you were honest enough to admit you're getting a cut from all of your tout advertisers I sincerely hope it folds quickly. That way less people will spend money not getting what they think they're purchasing.... a winner everytime.

I'm sorry you feel that way. You must have been scammed by one of the "bad apples" of the sports handicapping service industry. My only hope is that in the future this kind of thing doesn't continue to happen.

I respect you for your opinion and wish you luck.
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Max,

You also stated,

"You and your ilk have chosen a profession that is rife with scammsters and theives."

You say this as if the majority of the services in this industry are dishonest. However you have yet to show the public any proof that the majority of this industry is crooked.

Good Day,
BigRon
 

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