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Carrollton (Ga.) Star News – 5/11
(1) D.A. King

The Washington (D.C.) Times – 5/12
(2) M.L. Pinkard

Montgomery County Gazette – 5/14
(3) Al Eisner

Washington (D.C.) Examiner -5/15
(4) Al Eisner

Citizen-Times (N.C.) – 5/19
(5) Tom Shuford

Atlanta Journal-Constitution – 5/19
(6) D.A. King

Daily Herald (Ill.) – 5/20
(7) Flo Brinacombe

Beverly Hills (Calif.) Courier – 5/23
(8) Mark A. Mendlovitz

Detroit Free Press – 5/24
(9) Bob Allan

LETTERS WE’VE JUST RECEIVED

Rocky Mountain News (Colo.) – 5/8
(10) Gordon J. Johnson

(1)
Carrollton (Ga.)Star News – 5/11

Illegal immigration in my nation

D.A. King
Guest columnist

A recent news report in the Carrollton Times Georgian on a rally staged by and for people in my nation illegally has caused this long-time American to take a few moments out of his day to reply with a more pro-American side of the May Day march. And a few words on illegal immigration in general.

First: Readers can only hope that all ‘journalists’ connected with the publication of the one- sided promo piece for criminal immigration activity take a long hard look at the Code of Ethics from the Society of Professional Journalists.

Respectfully, the section concerning bias, fairness and balance in news reporting should be studied in depth.

From someone who has spent the last eight years studying the illegal immigration and illegal employment crisis created by the reality that the federal government has refused to secure American borders in a war on terror, a couple of facts:

It is a federal crime to transport, assist, shelter, harbor or to hire an illegal. Illegal employers should be made to march and stage rallies to demand the “right” to ignore the laws of the land along with their black-market laborers.

There is no universal civil right to live and work in the United States. We as a nation take in well over a million real, legal, immigrants every year - more than any nation on the planet. We can’t take in everyone – that’s called “open borders.”

We don’t have anything to apologize for - and sneaking into the U.S. to steal an American’s identity or creating fraudulent ID to steal an American job while illegally lowering American wages does not make one an “immigrant.”

The term is “illegal alien”. ”. Immigrants come legally. A quick and fool-proof method of telling the difference: Immigrants do not require amnesty.

Our government says we have to pay our taxes to educate illegal alien children and provide the victims of geography with free medical care - but not that we must remain silent and allow the open borders, radical left to trample the rule of law upon which our Republic was founded.

Another one: When a participant in a march demanding amnesty for illegal aliens is speaking in a foreign language, using a candidate for office from the Socialist Workers Party – Eleanor Garc’a – as a translator is not an efficient way of hiding the leftist agenda of those who regard borders as human rights violations and our nation as little more than an address.

Most Americans proved they demand defined, defended borders and a common and official language last summer when they defeated the Ted Kennedy and John McCain sponsored attempt to repeat the one-time amnesty of 1986.

Legalization is not the answer. It‘s enforcement that stops criminal activity.

On language: It was a coalition of the Chamber of Commerce and the ACLU types who defeated Rep. Tim Bearden’s HR 413 in the Georgia legislature this year that would have allowed Georgians to vote in November on making English the constitutionally official language of government in Georgia.

English as official is “anti-immigrant”, according to Bearden’s opponents.

Most Americans have had enough of the nonsense myth that there are “jobs Americans will not do” or that illegal aliens marching in American streets demanding citizenship somehow represents “equal rights under the law”.

Most of us also take a dim view of the vile comparison of illegal aliens and their mindless demands to the cause of Americans struggling for the civil rights due them as citizens under their own constitution.

Many of us think Barbara Jordan, the first black woman elected to Congress from the deep south, put it very well more than a decade ago. We live in fervent hope that we can elect leaders who share her courage and honesty.

In 1995, as the Bill Clinton appointed Chairwoman of the Commission on Immigration Reform, Jordan, a presidential Medal of Freedom winner, testified to a Congressional hearing on how to gain credibility on immigration policy: “Those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave. Deportation is crucial. Employer sanctions can work”.

To begin to solve the undeniable illegal immigration problem, we should ignore the open borders lobby and heed the words of Barbara Jordan.
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King is president of the Georgia-based Dustin Inman Society, a coalition actively opposed to illegal immigration and illegal employment. He has appeared on numerous national television and radio networks as an authority on the issue.
On the Web: www.TheDustinInmanSociety.org

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The Washington (D.C.) Times – 5/12

The legal path

Mr. McCain -- who echoes the Bush cadre's twin goals of endless war in the Middle East via permanent U.S. occupation, and a de facto union with Central and South America using the North American Free Trade Agreement, Central American Free Trade Agreement and Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America -- is no maverick. His aims dovetail intimately with those of one-world elitists pushing to equalize assets among global populations.

They feed Americans cheaper, suspect food from China, they back purportedly smarter legal workers from India, and supposedly harder-working illegal Mexicans, while foreign countries take over U.S. infrastructure at taxpaying citizen expense as the federal deficit topped $9,364 trillion May 8, against our deeply devaluated dollar.

He's also solidly in sync with minority Hispanic factions through his Outreach Director Juan Hernandez, a former Vicente Fox employee and avowed Mexico-first dual citizen.

Mr. McCain would love to forget the American majority that overwhelmingly opposes perpetuating war and at-will disregards for our highest national and international laws.

The American majority wants less immigration; legal paths to citizenship already exist; and constitutionalist Ron Paul adheres to the law.

Imagine that.

ML Pinkard
Lafayette, Calif.


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Washington (D.C.) Examiner - 5/14

High taxes hurt local economy

Re: “Montgomery County lost 5,000 jobs last year because of high taxes,” April 22

The state of the economy in Montgomery County is on a downslide, and the loss of more than 5,000 jobs in Montgomery County this past year is only a clear indication of that. The reason for that is the high taxes that Montgomery County imposes on its citizens and small businesses, which caused the loss of so many jobs here.

The county’s liberal policies continue to encourage illegal immigrants to migrate here, and while the county is overtaxing its hard-working citizens, it provides benefits to illegal immigrants.
When the county cuts services, it makes wrong choices. It cuts police services, such as a recommendation to eliminate all community outreach police services. The right thing to do would be crack down on illegal immigrants and deny them benefits and reduce taxes instead of the constant unnecessary increases.

The county is going in the wrong direction, and soon citizens will start moving out of the county because of the excessive taxes that the county imposes on them.

Al Eisner
Wheaton, Md.

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Note: A slightly modified version of this letter also appeared in the May 15 edition of the Montgomery County (Md.) Gazette.

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Citizen-Times (N.C.) – 5/19

Gov. Easley should not reward illegal behavior

Admitting illegal immigrants to community colleges, as Gov. Mike Easley urges, would ratchet up pressure to take the next logical step: putting these students on a path to citizenship. On reaching age 21, they could then petition for legal status for their illegal alien parents.

Legalization of students not only would ultimately reward the parents for their illegal behavior, but also would put into motion chain migration of extended family — thanks to the “family reunification” provisions of the 1965 Immigration Act.

Many educated foreigners are waiting patiently for permission to migrate to the United States. Who deserves our favor — those who respect American law or those who have demonstrated contempt for it?

Tom Shuford
Lenoir, N.C.

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Atlanta Journal-Constitution – 5/19

Federal database assures a legal work force

By D.A. King

While political candidates promise “more jobs for Americans”, we shouldn’t dismiss the tools made available by the federal government to attempt to ensure that those precious jobs do not go to black-market, taxpayer subsidized labor.

It is a federal crime to knowingly hire an illegal alien.
With a better chance of being struck by lightning than being sanctioned for violating the law, far too many employers disregard it.

Far too many who will settle for nothing less than a repeat of the failed “one time” illegal alien legalization scam of 1986 as the solution to the current illegal immigration and illegal employment crisis misrepresent the effectiveness of an electronic federal data base – E-Verify - that serves to verify employment information provided by workers.

With documented cases of multiple employees working in the same building using a common Social Security number - either false or stolen from Americans - use of the instantaneous E-Verify electronic system has proven to be far too effective for the open borders gang.

Originally known as the Basic Pilot program and presented as a mandatory method of verifying work eligibility, E-Verify is presently a voluntary system that should be expanded, better funded and made mandatory with the goal of eliminating the magnet that draws illegals to our nation. Few will be surprised to learn that it was a coalition of the business community and the far left ethnic lobby that was successful in making use of the system voluntary.

That relatively few employers have chosen to use the no-cost tool provides alarming, but unsurprising, insight into the intent of those who have not enrolled in the program.

When used to verify work eligibility of newly hired employees, a false negative response does not result in termination of the employee until completion of a lengthy and thorough appeal process. Using scare tactics about Americans losing jobs because of E-Verify is at best, unproductive.

Participating employers have successfully matched more than 90 percent of new hires to Department of Homeland Security and Social Security Administration database information. Of those who do not match, less than 2 percent contest the result.

This is obvious evidence of the effectiveness of the E-Verify tool and the immigration status of those who then look for illegal employment where the program is not in place.

It is irresponsible to not make it clear that the Georgia Security and Immigration Compliance Act which began to go into effect in July of 2007 requires not only most, and in 2009, all, public contractors in Georgia to use E-Verify. Also all public employers – the state and county and municipal governments - have to do the same.

Voters in coming local elections should know that as of May 1, more than 60 of Georgia’s 159 counties were in violation of state law by not having enrolled in the E-Verify system. Far too many municipal governments show the same disregard for the rule of law as well.
The Georgia Security and Immigration Compliance Act is merely a state law that essentially mandates that in Georgia, we use available tools to comply with federal law.

No law can work unless it is enforced. Georgians should be asking a lot of questions of their local governments about compliance and question all resistance to and criticism of the best tools we have to insure that American jobs - and tax dollars - go only to those who obey American laws.

D.A. King is president of the Georgia-based Dustin Inman Society, which is actively opposed to illegal immigration and illegal employment. The Dustin Inman Society is enrolled in the E-Verify system.

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Daily Herald (Ill.) – 5/20

"Many politicians favor amnesty"

Sen. McCain is not the only elected official who wants to grant amnesty to all illegal aliens living in the U.S.

Senators Obama, Clinton, Durbin, Kennedy, Reid and countless others are also for this. Also, Obama wants to give drivers licenses to illegals, while only four states are doing this.
That is why the American people must call, write, email, and fax our elected officials and let them know we do not want amnesty of any kind for people who have crossed our borders illegally, or stayed here when their visas have expired.

We did this last summer when they tried to shove the Kennedy-McCain amnesty bill and the Dream Act down our throats and we can do this again. I was appalled when I read what they wanted to give these illegal aliens.

I thought our senators and representatives were supposed to represent the American citizens.

If we do not let our elected officials know how we feel, they will just do whatever they want.

Flo Brinacombe

Schaumburg, Ill.

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Beverly Hills (Calif.) Courier – 5/23

I used to have a fairly high opinion of Sen. Dianne Feinstein.
Not so anymore.

Recently, I made a personal trip to her West LA office to attempt to speak with one of her staff members regarding her pending attempt to plant the unpopular “AgJobs” amendment into the Iraq Supplemental Spending Bill. The immigration-related bill, a favorite of big agribusiness, has failed to muster support on its own, and even Democrat senators have sharply attacked it, including Ben Nelson,
Robert Byrd, and Byron Dorgan.

Her tactic was to force it down the American people's throats by attaching it to “must-pass” legislation like the Iraq War bill.

When I got to her field office, I was immediately treated with suspicion by the staffer sitting behind a glass enclosure. I asked politely to sit down with him to discuss my concerns, either in one of the offices or out in the waiting room. He refused. When I asked for an explanation, he said: “that's the way we run this office.” He then told me I could talk to him through the closed glass window, which I proceeded to do, because I had no other way to communicate.

To add insult to injury, he spent much of the time staring at a computer screen, paying only partial attention to what I had to say, and took no notes. He obviously could not have cared less.

I have no doubt that had I been a lobbyist for Big Agri-business, a member of the immigration lawyers bar, or a so-called “(illegal)
immigrants' rights” activist, I would have been welcomed with open arms.

Unfortunately, I'm only a concerned citizen, and for Sen. Feinstein’s staff, that just isn't enough to get their attention.

Mark A. Mendlovitz, Ph.D.
Beverly Hills, Calif.

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Detroit Free Press – 5/24

"No need to fear E-Verify"

The May 19 article "Are you eligible to work? Plan would keep track," describes E-Verify, an effective method to verify the validity of Social Security numbers. E-Verify makes smart business sense because it ensures all new hires have a legal right to work in our nation. U.S. citizens do not need to fear E-Verify because there has never been an American citizen who lost his job due to this program.

Bob Allan
Rochester Hills, Mich.

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Rocky Mountain News (Colo.) – 5/8

A Kerry-like Udall

It is interesting that U.S. Rep. Mark Udall co-sponsored the Secure America Through Verification and Enforcement Act (H.R. 4088) but has failed to sign the discharge petition that would enable Congress to vote on it. I guess there must be some in Congress who do not really believe in democracy and would prefer to play political games.

This reminds me of Sen. John Kerry's foolish remark that he had voted for some bill before he voted against it. I hope Colorado voters will not be tricked by Udall's charade.

I urge Udall to sign the discharge petition now so we can see if democracy works when it comes to a really critical piece of legislation designed to deal with the illegal alien problem.

Gordon J. Johnson
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<!--div class="product_listing_3_column"-->Micro-business owners said they favor the following proposals relating to increased border security

Business Owners on Immigration - Thursday, May 8, 2008

National Association for the Self-Employed member survey, June 2006
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<!--div class="product_listing_3_column"-->Eighty-two percent of micro-business owners oppose offering amnesty to all illegal immigrants currently in our country

Business Owners on Immigration - Thursday, May 8, 2008

National Association for the Self-Employed member survey, June 2006
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<!--div class="product_listing_3_column"-->Sixty-three percent of NFIB small-business owners surveyed oppose amnesty for illegal immigrants

Business Owners on Immigration - Thursday, May 8, 2008

National Federation of Independent Business Research Foundation Member Survey on Immigration, April 4, 2006
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<!--div class="product_listing_3_column"-->Increasing penalties for employers who knowingly hire illegal aliens was supported by small business owners

Business Owners on Immigration - Thursday, May 8, 2008

National Federation of Independent Business Research Foundation Member Survey on Immigration, April 4, 2006
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<!--div class="product_listing_3_column"-->Independents Disapprove of President Bush's Amnesty Plan

Moderates and Independents on Immigration - Thursday, May 8, 2008

CBS New Poll, January 2004
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<!--div class="product_listing_3_column"-->Women on Immigration

Women on Immigration - Thursday, May 8, 2008
Over half (fifty-six percent) of women think legal immigration should be reduced. Only 10 percent of women think legal immigration should be increased.

CBS News/New York Times poll, September and December 2001
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Women on Immigration - Thursday, May 8, 2008
A majority of women (eighty-four percent) think the United States has made it too easy for people from other countries to enter the United States.

CBS News/New York Times poll, September and December 2001
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Prefer Lower Numbers - Wednesday, April 9, 2008
Fifty-two percent of adults polled nationwide say that immigration hurts the United States more than it helps it.

NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll conducted by the polling organizations of Peter Hart (D) and Bill McInturff (R).
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<!--div class="product_listing_3_column"-->CNN Poll on Illegal Aliens

Support Tougher Enforcement - Wednesday, April 9, 2008
Sixty-five percent of adults nationwide would like to see the the number of illegal aliens currently in this country reduced.

CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll; Jan. 14-17, 2008
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<!--div class="product_listing_3_column"-->Most support illegals crackdown

Support Tougher Enforcement - Friday, March 2, 2007
"The poll, conducted Feb. 22 to 26 with 1,000 respondents, shows that by a 68-25 margin, Americans support the ordinances proposed by Hazleton Mayor Louis Barletta and adopted by City Council..."

Standard-Speaker (Pa.); March 2, 2007
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DID THEY DIE FOR OPEN BORDERS? Memorial Day raised questions about U.S. government's commitment to national community


By Roy Beck, Saturday, May 31, 2008, 9:34 PM
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With men and women dying in the armed services of our country every day, the question of national community loomed large for me this Memorial Day.
Did all those who died in foreign lands this last year, as well as in America near our own borders, accept the possibility of the supreme sacrifice for just some vague concept of a country? For virtually open borders? For a government that only some times puts its citizens' interests ahead of those of citizens of other countries?
Or was it imperative for them to believe that they were fighting for a well-defined national community that is dedicated to caring for its own -- especially for its most vulnerable?
If they did believe that, they had to overlook a quarter century of immigration policies severely undermining the very nature of national community in the United States.
Let me hasten to say that I respect those of you who, when called, have chosen to serve your country as conscientious objectors in pacifist roles. I considered doing that myself during Vietnam, but in the end accepted the draft. For all of you who did the same or volunteered during our nation's wars, I ask you whether you would have answered the call the same -- donned the uniform and taken up arms -- if you had not believed that the government doing the calling was dedicated to the service of a national community that was committed first to protection of its own members, especially those in your own families and neighborhoods.
Immigration Favors Affluent Americans & Foreign Workers Over Vulnerable Americans

Recent immigration policies have suggested that our federal government is devaluing the national community. Those policies consistently favor the more affluent members of our country who desire to give U.S. jobs and benefits to citizens of other countries in preference over citizens of our own country, often those Americans with the fewest resources.
The primary problem with recent immigration policies is not the character or characteristics of individual immigrants (many of whom have been and are serving our country nobly in the armed services). Rather, the problem is the high numbers and how they affect those people born or naturalized under the care of our national community.
In our first two centuries (1776-1976), America sustained by far the largest flow of immigrants in world history, averaging around 250,000 a year (with significant fluctuations along the way). Interestingly in the 1950s and 1960s when the country had no more frontiers and was largely settled and mature with far less physical capacity to handle new flows, immigration was still running at the very high 250,000 level.
However since 1990, authorized immigration quotas have exploded still higher and have filled the nation's communities with more than 1,000,000 immigrants a year (not counting the millions of illegal immigrants allowed during that time).
The fourfold increase in legal immigration has overwhelmed many of the institutions, infrastructures and natural resources in and around communities across the nation.
Rejection of National Community Clearest In Abandonment of Black Men

There are many measures of the unfairness created by this flow but perhaps none more compelling than the plight of the nearly 40% of Black American men who do not have a job. Most of them desperately need entry-level and stepping-stone jobs, and they need pay, benefits and recruitment capable of pulling them into those jobs. As long as the federal government provides highly energetic, highly motivated foreign workers, though, it appears our non-employed American descendants of slavery and Jim Crow discrimination will remain largely abandoned by the economy and their country, left to operate outside the mainstream of society.
The abandonment, of course, is much wider than race. Americans of all ethnicities who work in the occupations where immigrants tend to settle suffer official unemployment rates of double – and more – that of the general population.
The less-affluent members of our national community whose neighborhoods have the most inadequate school systems also tend to shoulder most of the burden of school overcrowding and language/cultural challenges from high concentrations of immigrant settlement.
National Community Is Forced To Endure Additions Of Unrequested Millions

And Americans of every class and calling – who for decades have told pollsters they object to policies that create rampant population growth, sprawl, congestion and loss of natural habitat and mobility – are forced by the immigration flow to endure the consequences of the biggest population boom in our history. Nearly all of present population growth is now a result of new immigration and births to the immigrant population.
Census data projections show that if immigration levels remain this high, Americans will have to adjust from the present 300 million population to absorb another 150 million by mid-century. The United States won World War II with less than 150 million population. We've added another 150 million since then, and will do it again by mid-century unless Congress changes the immigration numbers.
Do uniformed men and women fight and die for this watered down of a concept of national community, where the vast majority of members must accept the deteriorations in quality of life for the sake of a privileged few?
My Father's Commitment To His Fallen Friends

I think about this often when I remember my last walk with my father. He had recently returned from a triumphant week of celebration of the opening of the World War II Memorial. The next day, he would enter the hospital for a surgery that ended up killing him. He chose for us to walk around the courthouse square of our little home town.
We paused at a monument that he had promoted that contained the names of locals who had died in the wars of the 20th century. He motioned toward the names of his boyhood friends who had entered WWII along with him. He said he had declared as each of them had been killed that he would ensure that their sacrifice would never be forgotten as long as he lived, and he had been true to that promise every Veterans Day and Memorial Day, high school assemblies and countless other patriotic acts for more than half a century.
But my father's promise in actuality was more than just remembering the sacrifice. It was making sure that their supreme sacrifice was actually worth something. They did not die for a war or even for an idea. They certainly did not die for open borders, rewards for illegal immigration and a society in which the disparity between the working classes and the intellectual classes would widen into a chasm. No, I feel certain that they were willing to die for their family, friends, locality and for a national community which, in one way or another, they assumed would care for their descendants who survived.
The boys who did not come back with my father after WWII were very much like the boys who did not come back with me after the Vietnam War -- they were the sons of farmers, small merchants and factory workers. They were of the same class and stock so seriously threatened today by careless -- perhaps callous -- immigration policies.
At some point, the victims of our immigration policies may cease to answer any kind of call to serve a national community that has less and less meaning. They may rebel. We can hope they do so through a political movement to press elected officials to change the policies and not by fully abandoning the society that has already abandoned them. http://numbersusa.com/content/nusab...did-they-die-for-open-borders-memorial-d.html
 
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<!-- END YAHOO BUZZ --> Since 2005, the federal government has filed criminal charges against more illegal immigrants than ever before, according to a story on the front page of The Washington Post.
The paper says federal agents participating in this zero-tolerance program have been charging every person they catch crossing certain segments of the border with misdemeanor violations of federal law.
"In areas where it has been applied -- which total about 500 miles, or one-fourth of the border -- Operation Streamline has slowed border traffic more substantially," the paper says. "The number of apprehensions fell by nearly 70 percent in the last quarter of 2008 along a 120-mile stretch near Yuma, Ariz., after the program was phased in between December 2006 and June 2007, and by nearly 70 percent along the 210-mile span near Del Rio. Apprehensions fell 22 percent after Operation Streamline was initiated in October along 171 miles near Laredo, Tex."
As of February, the paper says third-party data show these immigration cases accounted for more than half of the Justice Department's new prosecutions.(The Post says a Justice Department spokesman challenged the specifics, but not the overall conclusions, of the group's report.)
Some critics say the program is consuming too many resources. Others complain that the initiative should focus on companies that break the law by hiring undocumented immigrants.
"They're finding other routes," Ricardo Ahuja, the Mexican consul in Del Rio, Texas, tells the Star-Telegram, which reported on the program last week. "It's a question of supply and demand. If there weren't jobs waiting for them in the U.S., they wouldn't cross." http://smartbusinesspractices.com/pilot
(Photo of border patrol agent taken Jan. 25 in El Paso by Tomas Bravo, Reuters.) http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/06/record-number-o.html?loc=interstitialskip
 
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Blog-Health care for Deportees

YES to Decent Health Care for Illegals in Detention -- But Don't Use Issue To Slow Deportations


By Roy Beck, Tuesday, June 3, 2008, 10:40 PM
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ICE Chief Julie Myers goes before a congressional panel Wednesday to answer charges such as the baseless accusation that she is allowing "immigrants in detention (to) languish without lawyers and decent medical care even when they are mortally ill," as the New York Times stated in an editorial today (June 3).
When I talked with her in the afternoon, she was perplexed at what looks to be a coordinated onslaught by the nation's most prestigious media and the nation's immigration lawyers. They appear dedicated to shutting down much of our country's system for detaining already arrested illegal aliens after they are arrested, which is important to ensure that the arrested aliens show up for deportation hearings.
ILLEGAL ALIENS DESERVE HUMANE TREATMENT

I will admit to you that when the Big Media unveiled their investigative series on health care in detention centers last month, I asked my NumbersUSA staff to look into the possibility of taking a public stand to decry the abuse that was described in those reports.
NumbersUSA's position has always been that illegal aliens should be treated humanely as they are detected, detained and deported. I believe strongly that an advanced civilization goes to great lengths to ensure the physical safety of those it incarcerates. When individuals' freedoms are taken away through jailing, the state must take on every responsibility to ensure that they are not harmed due to their own lack of individual freedom to defend themselves.,
My position remains that if there is a problem with detention health care, it should be fixed. But any such problem should not be used in any way to hamper efforts to remove and drive illegal aliens from this country.
I will be interested to see if any of the Congress Members trip up Chief Myers. Under my stream of questions today, she certainly made a strong case that most of the charges of bad health treatment are false or misleading, and that the legitimate cases that have been raised were in the past before ICE instituted new procedures last year and early this year. (I'll give you examples below.)
OPEN-BORDERS FOLKS TRYING TO SLOW DEPORTATIONS

But first, I need to note that Chief Myers is too polite -- and too politically astute -- to say what is really going on with this hearing and all these news stories.
That is, the sudden spotlight on health care for detained illegal aliens has almost nothing to do with health and almost everything to do with the open-borders crowd desperately attempting to slow down the accelerating enforcement across the nation as unleashed by Myers and her enthusiastic ICE team.
The last thing the open-borders crowd wants is for the public to see that real enforcement is possible. That it causes a lot of other illegal aliens to decide to pack up. That American workers are available to fill the jobs vacated by the arrested and fleeing illegal workers.
Myers and her ICE team in the past year are proving that illegal immigration is not inevitable and can be controlled.
NO SUICIDE IN 15 MONTHS

The Washington Post did a huge multi-day investigative series last month detailing what it said were examples of incredibly bad health care for illegal aliens who are put into federal detention centers. The New York Times and CBS's 60 Minutes quickly followed suit, followed by a number of other media across the country.
One of the themes was that the trauma of being arrested and detained for breaking immigration laws is so great that many commit suicides and that ICE has been negligent in stopping them.
I was a little surprised today when Myers told me that despite having tens of thousands of detainees, there has been NO suicide in 15 months! And the rate before was low.
This variation with the news reporting apparently can be found up and down the list of grievances. In most cases, the anecdotal evidence of problems reported by the media were representative of situations that in aggregate have been at much lower rates than found in jails nationwide. And the health care of illegal aliens in most cases appears to be far superior to what American citizens get when they are in jail.
CLEARING UP SOME HEALTH PROBLEMS

Despite the fact that deaths in custody and other health measures among illegal alien detentions were well below national averages, Chief Myers said she and other officials came to believe that there were too many cases of health care problems that shouldn't have happened.
Last October, ICE took over the health care management from another agency and immediately instituted a number of new procedures.
Myers acknowledged that some of the problems portrayed in the news reports had been real. But she said they occurred before the new ICE procedures.
One of my biggest concerns was what appeared to be evidence of massive vacancies in the health care staffs at detention centers and what looked like neglect of urgent requests from health professionals there for reinforcements.
Myers acknowledged that both vacancies and responses to requests had been a problem. But since ICE took over in October, staff vacancies have improved from 30% to 18%, and medical requests are handled quickly by internet.
Months before the media reports came out, ICE had instituted oversight by outside doctors and required better record-keeping on patients, she said.
The media have been almost distraught about the fact that ICE has sedated unruly illegal aliens before deporting them on planes with civilian passengers. Myers said Great Britain won't sedate such deportees, so any illegal alien can avoid deportation by simply making a scene at the airport.
Nonetheless, Myers said she wasn't happy that the sedations had been taking place without clear record keeping and court orders. Now, a court makes the judgment about whether a deportee should be sedated.
SHOULD ILLEGALS GET BEST CARE IN AMERICA?

Chief Myers repeatedly said that the media have completely distorted the care that illegal aliens get in detention. Nonetheless, she said that although the overall statistics are excellent, she has discovered some individual instances in the past of "poor medical judgment that outrage me." She said she is committed to instituting procedures to prevent such instances from re-occurring.
Well, many citizens may feel that Myers is bending over too far backwards and providing more expensive health care to illegal aliens than is justified when tens of millions of American citizens get worse care. That imbalance may get worse after the congressional hearings.
A lot of the criticism of the detention centers is that they fail to do intensive dianostic testting to discover health problems that are not apparent and which the detainees don't know they have. It is as if every one of them deserves consideration by TV's Dr. House.
We have to remember that the average detainee is incarcerated for only 37 days. Shouldn't the responsibility be to ensure that they get:
  • care for any medical emergencies that occur during their stay
  • a continuation of any medications they were on before they were arrested
  • additional medications and care for chronic health problems (such as diabetes, high blood pressure) that are easily diagnosed once inside but for which they were not previously treated, in order to try to prevent their health from getting worse while in custody.
Chief Myers said all of these are being provided fully and that new procedures were put in place some time ago to make sure that newly arrested illegal aliens don't stop taking medications they were using just prior to their arrests.
Here's the challenge for ICE: Illegal aliens have terrible health. Of those arrested, 34% are diagnosed with chronic health problems, Myers said. ICE is already spending $100 million of taxpayers' money a year to treat the illegal aliens during their 37-day stays. Most of these illegal aliens would have gotten NO treatment on their own if they had not been arrested.
If Congress decides to provide an even higher quality of health care to the illegal aliens, we must be certain that it provides funding for it and doesn't take the money out of enforcement programs or doesn't reduce the numbers of detentions to pay for it.


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"'The state of Oklahoma ought not be in the business of subsidizing the presence of people who are here illegally,' said Republican state Rep. Randy Terrill, sponsor of the Oklahoma Taxpayer and Citizen Protection Act of 2007, also known as House Bill 1804. 'HB 1804 proves that attrition through enforcement works,' Terrill added..."

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I'm fighting with you RoadReeler. It is flat out sickning how illegal aliens are literally above the law.

However, we must expose the North American Union and the NWO agenda, rather than just fight illegal immigration. As none of the politicans will stop it. They are following an agenda. Don't be fooled - It is by design that the employers who hire illegals are rewarded, rather than prosecuted. It is all about bringing the middle class and country to its knees.
 
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Re: DID THEY DIE FOR OPEN BORDERS? Memorial Day raised questions

your thoughts,Roy,are so good and timely.i don't like the direction our country is headed to.our children and grandchildren will despise and curse us when they see an america so full of people that will appear to be nothing but a tangle of squabbling nationalities just like teddy roosevelt said would happen almost 100 years ago.i work for the state of tennessee in the drivers license division,and sometimes it seems that we get more questions from aliens,legal or illegal,than we do from natives.trying to talk to the indians,chineese,vietnameese,and the hispanics can really wear on you after a while.we must get rid of birthright citizenship.i think the law should make your mother at least be a u.s. citizen,for the child to qualify for u.s.citizenship.that would stop these hispanic women who are 9 months pregnant from crossing the border just to pop out their kid on u.s. soil just so they could be u.s. citizens and qualify for all kinds of benefits.this practice is absurd.most countries have left this practice,so why can't we?i guess,like many other things,it must be ted kennedy's fault,since he screwed this country in 1965 with that lie that we wouldn't hit 1 million legal immigrants.our country will not improve unless we get rid of these liberal bozos like him.i hate to say or think it,but our only choice may be a revolt by the american people.thanks for all you do,roy,and keep on preaching.i for one do listen and care. steve http://numbersusa.com/content/nusab...did-they-die-for-open-borders-memorial-d.html
 
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Index:

The Hill (Wash., D.C.) – 5/27
(1) Sandra Miller

Atlanta Journal-Constitution – 5/28
(2) Janet Gibson

Chicago Tribune – 5/28
(3) Thomas Markovich

The Washington (D.C.) Times –
(4) K.C. McAlpin

The Oakland (Mich.)Press(MI)- 5/31:
(5) Eric Cole

LETTERS WE’VE JUST RECEIVED

Times-Herald (Ga.) – 5/13
(6) Paul Gamblin

Odessa (Texas) American – 5/24
(7) Stacy Wright

(1)

The Hill (Wash., D.C.) – 5/27

Buying hospitals’ silence on cost of treating illegal aliens

(Regarding article, “Illegals haunt McCain,” May 22.) The main reason reimbursement of illegal aliens’ medical costs isn’t a burning issue is that its purpose is carefully disguised.

It’s hush money to buy hospitals’ silence on how illegal aliens have destroyed America’s healthcare systems. Although the “reimbursement” is only 2 to 5 percent of the true cost (with the rest passed along to paying patients) it’s been enough to buy the “ethical grounds” for hospitals’ self-righteous refusal to inquire about immigration status.

Without their hush money, hospitals might join Americans to demand enforcing laws against both illegal aliens and employers, securing the border against illegal entry (including a real fence), and reducing the illegal alien numbers by the attrition via enforcement plan.

Or the hospitals might demand repeal of the 1986 Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) that created this problem in the first place.

May Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and his fellow sellouts face an uphill battle. The current reimbursement bill passed only because it was Sen. Jon Kyl’s (R-Ariz.) price for his yes vote and influence on the 2003 Medicare prescription drug bill.

American Hospital Association spokesman David Allen’s hypocritical claim that hospitals’ “mission is to take care of patients, regardless of race, ethnicity, citizenship, etc.” is a surprise; they certainly don’t object to asking personal questions or refusing treatment of taxpaying, law-abiding Americans who are uninsured.

So the powerful hospital lobby remains solidly in the ranks of special interests that have sold out the American people by supporting illegal migration. And John McCain? Despite his claims that he “gets the message,” he’s been a full-fledged, card-carrying member of that club for years and shows no sign of change.

Sandra Miller
Phoenix

(2)
Atlanta Journal-Constitution – 5/28

Why so hard to arrest immigrants?

Thank you for printing the column by D.A. King. It is helpful to have a qualified, informed individual wade through the political jargon so that "we the people" can have the truth.

It seems that some of our elected officials have forgotten who "we the people" refers to. Why does it seem so difficult to pursue lawbreakers who have no regard for our Constitution and Bill of Rights? We seem to be perfectly capable of arresting traffic violators, drug dealers, animal abusers, etc.

Janet Gibson
Lawrenceville, Ga.

(3)
Chicago Tribune – 5/28

Tribune crossed the line

Memorial Day - a time to honor the memories of those who have fought for this great nation. It is reasonable to have expected that worthy theme to play out in the lead story ("Does crackdown cross line?" May 25). The Tribune obviously disagreed, choosing instead to run a story about the probability for racial profiling in the nation's battle against illegal immigration. The story's theme, its placement, and its timing reflect poor judgment. The question I was left with is not the one posed in the headline; rather, it is how far the Tribune crossed the line that separates good journalism from cheap editorializing.

Thomas Markovich
Hammond, Ind.

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The Washington (D.C.) Times- 5/29

Janet Murguia, president of the National Council of La Raza (NCLR), seems really upset that organizations like ProEnglish have the same First Amendment rights that her organization has ("Dueling Rhetoric," Letters, May 23).

She calls my organization "anti-immigrant" even though we were founded by immigrants and despite the fact that we were created to defend the great American melting-pot model of successful immigration by preserving English as our common language.

Without citing a single fact to back up her claim, she goes on to say we and many other organizations "have long ties to white supremacists, eugenics and hate." To support her false charge, she cites lists of "hate groups" compiled by the extreme left-wing Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) and says those lists are based on documented characteristics of what defines a "hate group."

However, the SPLC has never published any such defining characteristics. The reason is that if it did, people would see how selectively those characteristics are applied in an effort to smear the SPLC's political opponents.

What the SPLC and people like Miss Murguia cannot stand are opposing viewpoints. When people are able to hear both sides of an argument for example, on the need to keep English as our common language their side loses.

K.C. McAlpin
Executive director
ProEnglish
Arlington , Va.

(5)
The Oakland (Mich.)Press(MI)- 5/31:

"Identify illegal immigrants properly in articles"

After reading the article "Murder Suspect Found in Mexico," I became outraged by the fact the suspect, Victor Andrade, an illegal immigrant, was described as a "Mexican citizen," further confusing the issue of alleged crimes committed by illegal immigrants.

It would be nice to have the facts printed as they are, without misleading words to confuse the public. Crime committed by illegals is rising in the Detroit area.

Earlier this year, an illegal was involved in the slaying of a Troy couple, last year a Flint police officer was struck and killed by a drunken illegal immigrant and a few years ago in Dearborn Heights, an escort girl was brutally raped and murdered by another illegal immigrant.

Eric Cole
Rochester, Mich.

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Times-Herald (Ga.) – 5/13

Are we too late on immigrants?

What are we teaching our children when we as a nation say that illegal immigrants deserve amnesty so they can become legal
citizens? I don't think the open borders lobby has even looked at that aspect of the immigration debate.

Think about it. The migrants who are here illegally either snuck over the borders or overstayed a legitimate visa. Either action is a criminal act, violating our national laws. However, these people in the open-borders campaign want us to say that "it's OK. You can stay anyway." That would be one huge mistake.

Look at it this way. You set rules for your children at home. They are important rules, ones that will help your children be safe, learn discipline and respect authority. But very soon your child decides he or she doesn't like the rules and breaks them. What do you do?

If you reacted the same way that the open-borders lobby does, you would say "that's OK. You don't really have to obey my rules after all." What kind of parenting would that be? Eventually, your child would have no respect for authority of any kind, and they would have no respect for you.

If we allow illegal immigrants to disobey immigration law, we are teaching them that it doesn't matter if they obey the law or not. Eventually, we will have a community of immigrants who have no regard or respect for authority or for any of our laws.

Wait, we already have that now. Maybe we are too late.

Paul Gamblin
Newnan, Ga.

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Odessa (Texas) American – 5/25

Live the American Way

Re: Emily Marquez's letter "The better solution."

First off, nowhere in my letter did I suggest we amend the 14th Amendment. I stated the obvious that the 14th was never meant to give citizenship to the children of illegal alien "invaders," and that doing so is a misinterpretation.

My comparison of the illegal aliens to an invading army was in reference to the current misinterpretation of our 14th Amendment.

Most illegal aliens just come to work illegally. However, many illegal aliens are responsible for more deaths and injuries of American citizens in one year than has occurred in wars in the Middle East to date, by means of drunken driving, murder, robbery, molestaton and rape (http://www.operationbodycount.com/), (http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID53103 ).

To give citizenship to the children of illegal aliens is rewarding criminal illegal aliens for knowingly flaunting our laws and disrespecting our borders.

This disrespect continues when the illegal aliens refuse to use our common language and place their flags and customs above those of the United States of America.

These instant citizens become what are known as anchor babies who the illegal alien criminals exploit to the fullest extent possible to justify their breaking our laws and remaining in our country.

Many of these instant citizens are delivered at citizen taxpayer expense and become instant tax burdens to working middle-class citizens, while their illegal parents work off the books for lower wages and benefits.

This is a double-edged sword used by the greedy rich to either fire citizens or cut their wages and benefits while their illegal alien workforce is subsidized by citizen taxpayers.

The raise in taxes is being paid by middle-class citizens to subsidize the illegal alien workforce of the greedy rich while Americans' wages and benefits are cut.

Discrimination is rampant throughout our country as businesses discriminate against English-speaking citizens, preferring to hire those that can speak in the tongue of the invaders.

Discrimination is perpetrated by Texas Gov. Rick Perry and lawmakers by giving in-state tuition to illegal aliens while denying the same to our fellow American citizens.

The answer to illegal immigration is not to reward the lawbreakers, as Marquez suggests, but to stop all taxpayer aid and instant citizenship of illegals' children.

Enforce our immigration laws and punish the employers of illegal aliens and soon we will no longer have an illegal immigration problem.

America does not belong to everyone. America belongs to Americans, including those that have immigrated here through legal means.

Americans should remember we are a nation with boundaries, laws and a common language that deserves the respect and adherence of all that come here through legal means.

Americans could not have been any clearer on not giving amnesty to illegal aliens than they were in the waning summer of 2007 when their phone calls demanding no amnesty overwhelmed the Capitol's phone system, shutting it down.

Americans have spoken clearly, We want our customs, our laws and our borders respected and obeyed by ALL.

Stacy Wright
Odessa, Texas

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