AK and Willies pissing contest thread.

[akphidelt]

This what I'm referring to. In the last two posts you've called me annoying, infatuated, jealous and ridiculous solely because I said you can't respectfully disagree. All good though man. I'm moving on. For the record, I agree on the FF note. I'd play with anyone and I would think the incentive to beat down someone you dislike would be appealing rather than a negative. That said, I'm not in willies shoes therefore I can't blame him for his decision.

So you can't blame a rapist for raping someone because you aren't in their shoes?

 

[akphidelt]

Yeah.....deal with this every day. We tie up property all the time while we are putting a deal together but it's not ours until we close on it. We also purposely put things under contract with no intent on buying just to keep our competition out. Cost us earnest money, but well worth it in the long run. Not going to engage in a discussion on this when AK doesn't understand how the business works. I am sure the buyer has all intention to buy the Clips, but it's not his or its not sold until he closes.

Lol, that's just how the real estate market phrases the process. Something can still be sold and pending at the same time. They just separate it.

And legally under the contract he agreed to, the Clippers are Ballmers. Shelley Sterling sold the Clippers to Ballmer at the agreed upon price. The sale is being disputed therefore the sale is not final. Does not mean Shelley Sterling didn't sell the team to Ballmer.

 

[MantisToboggan]

So you can't blame a rapist for raping someone because you aren't in their shoes?

Rape is a moral issue. I don't see this a moral issue. I don't see the two situations as even remotely comparable.

 

[Vico_dan]

Actually it is true based on English. But you have reading comprehension skills so I wouldn't expect you to be smart enough to understand how sold can be used in different contexts.

I would lay low on this one akphi, bluffing economic theory is one thing but you can't bluff this one. Attempting so could be detrimental to your stellar reputation.

 

[akphidelt]

Rape is a moral issue. I don't see this a moral issue. I don't see the two situations as even remotely comparable.

I'm just saying, you can't judge someone because you aren't in their shoes? You judge me and my decisions all the time? Now you are unable to judge someone because you don't want to and you make up an excuse about why?

Now that's hilarious.

 

[akphidelt]

I would lay low on this one akphi, bluffing economic theory is one thing but you can't bluff this one. Attempting so could be detrimental to your stellar reputation.

Lay low against Enfuego?? Lmao!! The dude is a retard.

 

[akphidelt]

it's not a complex issue

who is listed as owner of the Clippers today?

game set match, unless of course, you're incredibly stupid

why are the attoneys for the buyer saying the offer to buy expires August 15, 2014? How can it expire when it already happened

looks like that real world experience just ain't worth much

Lol, I thought you weren't reading or responding to my comments? I thought you've said this 100 times now.

And you guys are all wrong. The Clippers were sold to Ballmer. Any litigation in between where the ownership is not transferred to him does not mean he did not agree to buy the clippers at the agreed upon price. You don't have to own something for it to be sold. All there has to be is an agreement between a seller and a buyer. No different than an auction. When you bid on an auction item the auctioneer doesn't yell "PENDING"!!!

 

[Willie99]

[h=1]HoopsHype Owners[/h]by HoopsHype - Updated: July 02, 2014

				Titles
Name	Team	Seasons	Playoffs	Div	Conf	League	Net worth	Team value
Michael Gearon Jr	Atlanta	10	7	0	0	0		$425 million
Wyc Grousbeck	Boston	12	9	6	2	1	$360 million	$875 million
Mikhail Prokhorov	Brooklyn	4	2	0	0	0	$10.9 billion	$780 million
Michael Jordan	Charlotte	5	2	0	0	0	$525 million	$410 million
Jerry Reinsdorf	Chicago	29	22	8	6	6	$280 million	$1,000 million
Dan Gilbert	Cleveland	9	5	2	1	0	$3.7 billion	$515 million
Mark Cuban	Dallas	14	13	3	2	1	$2.6 billion	$765 million
Stan Kroenke	Denver	14	10	3	0	0	$5.6 billion	$495 million
Tom Gores	Detroit	3	0	0	0	0	$2.9 billion	$450 million
Joe Lacob	Golden State	3	2	0	0	0	$325 million	$750 million
Leslie Alexander	Houston	21	13	1	2	2	$80 million	$775 million
Herb Simon	Indiana	31	21	6	1	0	$2.05 billion	$475 million
Donald Sterling	LA Clippers	33	7	2	0	0	$1.9 billion	$575 million
Jim Buss	LA Lakers	2	1	0	0	0	$380 million	$1,350 million
Robert Pera	Memphis	2	2	0	0	0	$2.7 billion	$453 million
Micky Arison	Miami	19	16	11	5	3	$6.5 billion	$770 million
Marc Lasry	Milwaukee	0	0	0	0	0	$1.7 billion	$405 million
Glen Taylor	Minnesota	19	8	1	0	0	$1.8 billion	$430 million
Tom Benson	New Orleans	2	0	0	0	0	$1.3 billion	$420 million
Cablevision	New York	17	8	1	1	0	$3.7 billion	$1,400 million
Clay Bennett	Oklahoma City	8	5	4	1	0		$590 million
Rick DeVos	Orlando	23	14	6	2	0	$6.9 billion	$560 million
Joshua Harris	Philadelphia	3	1	0	0	0	$2.9 billion	$469 million
Robert Sarver	Phoenix	10	5	3	0	0	$400 million	$565 million
Paul Allen	Portland	26	19	3	2	0	$15.9 billion	$587 million
Vivek Ranadive	Sacramento	1	0	0	0	0		$550 million
Peter Holt	San Antonio	21	20	13	6	5	$80 million	$660 million
Maple Leaf Sports Ent	Toronto	16	6	2	0	0	$297 million	$520 million
Greg Miller	Utah	6	3	0	0	0	$480 million	$525 million
Ted Leonsis	Washington	4	1	0	0	0	$1 billion	$485 million
Name	Team	Seasons	Playoffs	Div	Conf	League	Net worth	Team value
				Titles

Sources: Forbes and USA Today.

 

[Willie99]

somebody better tell Forbes and the USA Today they need to update their records

 

[Albatross]

Lol, that's just how the real estate market phrases the process. Something can still be sold and pending at the same time. They just separate it.

And legally under the contract he agreed to, the Clippers are Ballmers. Shelley Sterling sold the Clippers to Ballmer at the agreed upon price. The sale is being disputed therefore the sale is not final. Does not mean Shelley Sterling didn't sell the team to Ballmer.

you just contradicted yourself with this statement. I could care less about y'all's argument here, but the team has not and will not change ownership until it closes.....end of story. If you were to put your house on the market, and it goes under contract, the potential buyers can't just go to your house and come in because they have it under contract.....why, because they do not own it. It is not officially and legally sold until it goes to a closing table. Not sure why you are lol'ing about this.

If you want to argue with others here about it being under contract, thats fine......but as of today, the team is not Ballmers.

 

[Willie99]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NBA_team_owners

wiki too, I wonder why some really smart person hasn't edited this information yet?

Below is a list of principal owners of National Basketball Association teams:

Franchise	Principal Owner(s)	Operating Entities	Owned Since
Atlanta Hawks	Bruce Levenson, Michael Gearon	Atlanta Spirit Group, Hawks Basketball, Inc.	2004
Boston Celtics	H. Irving Grousbeck, Wycliffe Grousbeck, Steve Pagliuca	Boston Basketball Partners LLC	2003
Brooklyn Nets	Mikhail Prokhorov, Bruce Ratner	ONEXIM Sports and Entertainment Holding USA, Inc.	2010
Charlotte Hornets	Michael Jordan	Bobcats Sports & Entertainment, Bobcats Basketball Holdings, LLC	2010
Chicago Bulls	Jerry Reinsdorf	Chicago Professional Sports Limited Partnership	1985
Cleveland Cavaliers	Dan Gilbert, Gary Gilbert, Gordon Gund	Cavaliers Operating Company, LLC	2005
Dallas Mavericks	Mark Cuban	Dallas Basketball Limited	2000
Denver Nuggets	Stan Kroenke	Kroenke Sports Enterprise, Denver Nuggets Limited Partnership	2000
Detroit Pistons	Tom Gores	Palace Sports & Entertainment, Detroit Pistons Basketball Company	2011
Golden State Warriors	Peter Guber, Joe Lacob	GSW Sports LLC	2010
Houston Rockets	Leslie Alexander	Rocket Ball, Ltd.	1993
Indiana Pacers	Herbert Simon	Pacers Sports & Entertainment, Pacers Basketball, LLC	1983
Los Angeles Clippers	Donald Sterling	LAC Basketball Club, Inc.	1981
Los Angeles Lakers	Johnny, Jim and Jeanie Buss, along with siblings in Jerry Buss family trust[SUP][1][/SUP]	The Los Angeles Lakers, Inc.	2013
Memphis Grizzlies	Robert J. Pera	Memphis Basketball LLC	2012
Miami Heat	Micky Arison	Miami Heat Limited Partnership	1995
Milwaukee Bucks	Wesley Edens and Marc Lasry	Milwaukee Bucks, Inc.	2014
Minnesota Timberwolves	Glen Taylor	Minnesota Timberwolves Basketball Limited Partnership	1995
New Orleans Pelicans	Tom Benson	New Orleans Pelicans NBA Limited Partnership	2012
New York Knicks	James Dolan	Madison Square Garden, Inc., New York Knicks, Inc.	1997
Oklahoma City Thunder	Clayton Bennett	The Professional Basketball Club, LLC.	2006
Orlando Magic	RDV Sports, Inc. (Richard DeVos, Chairman)	Orlando Magic, Ltd.	1991
Philadelphia 76ers	Joshua Harris, Adam Aron	Philadelphia 76ers, Inc.	2011
Phoenix Suns	Robert Sarver	Suns Legacy Partners, LLC	2004
Portland Trail Blazers	Paul Allen	Vulcan Inc., Trail Blazers, Inc.	1988
Sacramento Kings	Vivek Ranadivé [SUP][2][/SUP]	Sacramento Kings Partnership Group (operating entity yet to be named)	2013
San Antonio Spurs	Peter Holt	Spurs Sports & Entertainment, San Antonio Spurs LLC	1993
Toronto Raptors	Larry Tanenbaum	Maple Leaf Sports & Entertainment, Toronto Raptors Basketball Club	1998
Utah Jazz	Greg Miller	Larry H. Miller Sports & Entertainment, Jazz Basketball Investors, Inc.	1985
Washington Wizards	Ted Leonsis	Monumental Sports & Entertainment	2010

 

[Albatross]

somebody better tell Forbes and the USA Today they need to update their records

They also need to learn that when you get to 1,000 million, that equals 1 billion. Ie: Knicks & Lakers.

 

[akphidelt]

you just contradicted yourself with this statement. I could care less about y'all's argument here, but the team has not and will not change ownership until it closes.....end of story. If you were to put your house on the market, and it goes under contract, the potential buyers can't just go to your house and come in because they have it under contract.....why, because they do not own it. It is not officially and legally sold until it goes to a closing table. Not sure why you are lol'ing about this.

If you want to argue with others here about it being under contract, thats fine......but as of today, the team is not Ballmers.

I didn't contradict myself at all. There is different contexts of the word sold. One of which is when two people agree on a price. You are talking about sold in reference to the completion of the sale. At any point in between you can still legitimately reference that the item has been sold. It's simply a lesson in context. But I promise you there is nothing in the English language that would disagree with saying the Clippers were sold.

 

[Albatross]

Referring to a pending sale as sold is used a lot. In this case, you can refer as sold but Ballmer doesn't own the team. The correct statement is under contract, being that sold is a past tense term. The date they actually close will be the day the team is actually sold.

 

[akphidelt]

Referring to a pending sale as sold is used a lot. In this case, you can refer as sold but Ballmer doesn't own the team. The correct statement is under contract, being that sold is a past tense term. The date they actually close will be the day the team is actually sold.

You and I are on the same page. The only difference is Ballmer, according to the agreement he made with Shelley Sterling owns the Clippers. That's a legally binding document between the two. That ownership is being fought by Sterling who is the current owner. So the only difference between what I'm talking about and what you're talking about is the word "official" or "actually".

Just like the context of the word sold. Shelley Sterling sold the Clippers to Ballmer, that does not mean Ballmer "officially" owns the team. I can provide plenty of articles from reputable media sources where they used the term "Clippers sold for $2 billion".

These guys are just idiots and they can't understand context.

 

[Enfuego]

Lol, I thought you weren't reading or responding to my comments? I thought you've said this 100 times now.

And you guys are all wrong. The Clippers were sold to Ballmer. Any litigation in between where the ownership is not transferred to him does not mean he did not agree to buy the clippers at the agreed upon price. You don't have to own something for it to be sold. All there has to be is an agreement between a seller and a buyer. No different than an auction. When you bid on an auction item the auctioneer doesn't yell "PENDING"!!!

Yep, all of us are wrong and you are right. Just like every single thread you post in. We are wrong, you are right. We are retards and you are the smart one.

Even Guesser won't defend your ignorance when it comes to whether the LAC have been sold or not.

 

[akphidelt]

Yep, all of us are wrong and you are right. Just like every single thread you post in. We are wrong, you are right. We are retards and you are the smart one.

Even Guesser won't defend your ignorance when it comes to whether the LAC have been sold or not.

There's plenty of journalists out there who understand the English language far better than you that agree with me. No surprise. And I'm not saying you guys aren't wrong that the team has been officially sold. You are just wrong about saying the Clippers haven't been sold in the context I'm talking about.

 

[Enfuego]

Embattled Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling met with the team’s prospective buyer, former Microsoft executive Steve Ballmer, for 90 minutes Monday afternoon – but nothing was resolved, FOX Sports has learned.

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/...k-clippers-sale-may-be-losing-momentum-072114

 

[Enfuego]

LAS VEGAS (AP) - Eyebrow-raising testimony, abrupt changes of plans, courtroom delays. If there is one thing NBA Commissioner Adam Silver has learned during the Donald Sterling saga, it's that there are no guarantees.

So when Silver was asked Tuesday if he could say Sterling would not own the Los Angeles Clippers by the time next season comes around, he said he could not.

“It's very difficult to say anything with certainty in a situation like this,” Silver said after the Board of Governors' meeting. “I can say with certainty we are doing everything in our power to move Donald out as an owner in the NBA.”

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b...clippers-owner-season-start-article-1.1868434

 

[akphidelt]

LAS VEGAS (AP) - Eyebrow-raising testimony, abrupt changes of plans, courtroom delays. If there is one thing NBA Commissioner Adam Silver has learned during the Donald Sterling saga, it's that there are no guarantees.

So when Silver was asked Tuesday if he could say Sterling would not own the Los Angeles Clippers by the time next season comes around, he said he could not.

“It's very difficult to say anything with certainty in a situation like this,” Silver said after the Board of Governors' meeting. “I can say with certainty we are doing everything in our power to move Donald out as an owner in the NBA.”

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b...clippers-owner-season-start-article-1.1868434

The NBA has no control over the Sterling family trust. Not sure what you are expecting them to say now. Since if the probate judge rules against Shelley, they are back to square one and wasted 3 months. I'll honestly admit I did not imagine his wife would find him mentally ill, sell the team for $2b, and he would fight that his wife can't sell the team. Unfortunately for you guys, none of you predicted that also. Has nothing to do with the NBA's constitution.