They're very similar to my own handicapped selections. (Good Luck!):aktion033 OK, here are Mr. Jon White's selections for the Derby ( he is the capper with the 'strikes'...........)
1. American Pharoah
2. International Star
3. Dortmund
4. Carpe Diem
Take it for what it's worth..................
Post | Rk | Pts: | O-1 | O-2 | M/L | Horse: | WGT+ | P | A | C | E | Jockey | Trainer: | Workouts |
18 | 4 | 160 | 5/2 | 7/2 | 5/2 | American Pharoah | + 5 | MK | V Espinoza | B Baffert | Excellent | |||
8 | 2 | 170 | 4/1 | 4/1 | 3/1 | Dortmund | + 4 | MK | M Garcia | B Baffert | Ver Good | |||
2 | 3 | 164 | 7/1 | 10/1 | 8/1 | Carpe Diem | + 4 | PRS | J R Velazquez | T Pletcher | Good | |||
12 | 1 | 171 | 18/1 | 15/1 | 20/1 | International Star | + 6 | OFF | M Mena | M Maker | Good | |||
6 | 6 | 100 | 10/1 | 12/1 | 20/1 | Mubtaahij | + 5 | ON | C Soumillon | M de Kock | Good | |||
3 | 7 | 100 | 12/1 | 12/1 | 12/1 | Materiality | + 4 | MK | J Castellano | T Pletcher | Good | |||
15 | 5 | 113 | 16/1 | 15/1 | 15/1 | Frosted | + 5 | ON | OFF | J Rosario | K McLaughlin | Good | ||
19 | 9 | 76 | 20/1 | 12/1 | 15/1 | Upstart | + 9 | PRS | J L Ortiz | R Violette Jr. | Ver Good | |||
10 | 12 | 58 | 16/1 | 15/1 | 12/1 | Firing Line | + 4 | MK | G L Stevens | S Callaghan | Fair | |||
20 | 10 | 62 | 33/1 | 30/1 | 30/1 | Far Right | +7 | OFF | M E Smith | R Moquett | Fair | |||
7 | 8 | 95 | 33/1 | 30/1 | 30/1 | El Kabeir | + 7 | PRS | C H Borel | J Terranova II | Good | |||
9 | 20 | 30 | 40/1 | 30/1 | 30/1 | Bolo | + 8 | MK | R Bejarano | C Gaines | Good | |||
5 | 13 | 45 | 40/1 | 30/1 | 30/1 | Danzig Moon | + 6 | ON | OFF | J R Leparoux | M Casse | Excellent | ||
13 | 11 | 60 | 40/1 | 30/1 | 30/1 | Itsaknockout | + 8 | PRS | L Saez | T Pletcher | Good | |||
16 | 14 | 44 | 40/1 | 40/1 | 50/1 | War Story | + 8 | OFF | J Talamo | T Amoss | Fair | |||
4 | 15 | 41 | 66/1 | 30/1 | 30/1 | Tencendur | + 6 | ON | M Franco | G Weaver | Ver Good | |||
13 | 16 | 20 | 40/1 | 40/1 | 50/1 | Keen Ice | + 9 | OFF | K Desormeaux | D Romans | Fair | |||
17 | 18 | 34 | 40/1 | 50/1 | 50/1 | Mr. Z | + 6 | MK | R A Vazquez | D. W Lukas | Good | |||
1 | 19 | 30 | 40/1 | 50/1 | 50/1 | Ocho Ocho Ocho | + 4 | ON | E Trujillo | J Cassidy | Fair | |||
11 | 17 | 40 | 50/1 | 50/1 | 30/1 | Stanford | + 8 | MK | F Geroux | T Pletcher | Fair | |||
21 | 21 | 20 | 50/1 | 50/1 | 50/1 | Frammento | + 9 | OFF | C S Nakatani | N P Zito | Fair | |||
22 | 22 | 50/1 | Tale of Verve | + 9 | OFF | B J Hernandez | D Stewart | Excellent |
Stanford may be out ...................will wait to see
Other then the Ajax lineage info (almost every entry this year is covered!) this has been a very interesting thread. So I thought I might add my own comments:hno: Now with the posts being drawn, a few notes on my end.............
# 1 - Ocho Ocho Ocho - the 1 hole kiss of death...............now he almost has to jump out front, or be smashed into a wall of horses......not good for him
# 2 - Carpe Diem - I think another bad spot
# 5 - Danzig Moon - good draw for him to sit back and watch everything unfold
# 6 - Muby - Think his connections should be ecstatic in the 6 hole
# 7 - El Kabeir - good post to set up off the pace, or jump towards the rail, as Calvin will place him
# 8 - Dortmund - see Muby's comments
# 12 - International Star - this post should fit well for his style
# 15 - Frosted - first out of the Aux gate..........no one on his left.........will play well for him
# 18 - American Pharoah - not good at all..............what is Victor going to do with him......go very wide on first turn ?
# 19 - Upstart - guess he is going to try and stay outside
# 20 - Far Right - shouldn't bother this closer...........stay back and go towards the rail on first turn, saving ground
....Now the fun begins...................let's start .....................
ok, im done....my derby pics........#8 dortmound.....#15 frosted....#19 upstart
:think2: Well, I think it is going to be 'tough' to try and beat the big 3 in this race.................but we are going to try, ........hey, it's the Derby , what else are we going to do.......
With that being said, here are my plays for the Kentucky Derby.............
Going to go with following;
------ Great win candidates -
-----------------------------------Frosted, Upstart, International Star, Dortmund
------ Could hit the board candidates , for the exotics -
-----------------------------------American Pharoah, Materiality, Muby , Carpe Diem
------ Big Bombers to look out for -
----------------------------------- Far Right, Danzig Moon , Frammento
We , my friends and I, will take these horses listed above and 'key' them, 'box' them etc.............
Best of luck to all of you, it's been a great week.................and hope you all get to cash some tickets tomorrow..........
Be well all...........remember " Hey Eddie, Can you lend me a few bucks ".................