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I am not even sure why that forum is still up to be honest as it was taken down 2 years ago...

I still remember a line you used early on during those chat sessions at ThinkDog that has stuck with me even today...When the NHL gang would get on a roll, you asked the group one time:

"Is what we are doing really gambling?"...

And it made me think of an old cliche, the one in "team building" sessions where the leader will say, "Our success equals the sum of all the parts" or the similar one that goes, "the whole is often greater than the sum of its parts"...

Simple but true...

When a bunch of good cappers put their heads together in a positive way, share good information, and the goal of everyone is the success of the group as a whole rather than just your individual success, then you have something powerful there...

The problem with most (if not all) forums is that most people just want attention for themselves, so it's rare to see the team concept at work...But with that said, there are some smart lurkers out there who know who to tail in every sport because they do their homework on all the cappers and find the few that win at the various sports based on the capper's ability to display their knowledge...So if you don't want to handicap, but you do want to coat-tail, again, do your homework and it should pay off...

And even at ThinkDog, the team concept really only worked with the NHL because every capper you had there was on fairly equal ground with everyone else...There was no dominant NHL capper that stood out... Everyone was solid in that sport...So those discussions flowed really well, there was great give and take, and the winners flowed like beer down a thirsty alcoholic's throat...

But unfortunately, it wasn't the same for the other sports as I had nothing to add (or even give) for college hoops or foots and there was too much disparity in the talent levels of the cappers for every other sport, so the individualism was more prevalent...Wasn't much give and take...

Anyway...
 

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Yeah thats because um, the NBA?
Do i really need to? lol

Fuckin stoned Brothas in shorts, How can you tell which starting 5 got all baked before the game LoL

Ahh man i dont trust them at all, and YOU KNOW I was a 56% NBA guy until about 03-04 , and i finally said "ok thats enough, ill stick to Ncaa and Not deal with Overpaid Brothers who cant even shoot a ball at a hoop with a success rate of 30%" ??

I thought Baseball was the league where .300 defined how good you were!!!!
NOT NBA!! LOL


Ahh man, hey, what we did in those sessions was immensely helpful, i wish we actually would get back to taking the hour or so we did every day to all get online and Voice chat together and listen to eachother talk, not Read eachothers words, its amazing how much better you can tell what someone is trying to say when you HEAR IT, not read it!!

But Amazingly enough Thinkdog has survived somehow, obviously Me being the Leader, as its been for 6 years! But I never put myself above anyone, i knew we were all on the same plane and we had the same goal, so i may have and be the leader, but like you said, there was so much give and take, and we earned our reputation big time!
Al is still there, although hes going thru some personal shit similar to what Got me out to Montana! And you know what got me out of NY and in MT, Fuckin Women Mang!! Aint divorce grand! LOL

But Yeah, Mikey, Mo, And Tom and I are carrying the torch!
I have quite a Few Europeans now too for some Soccer/futbol input, and it seems with our conversations that 4 or 5 people peeked at TD!!

You do know youre always welcome back there right?
The only reason i really ever boot anyone is if theyre not going to pitch in, and you know you had told me that Posting and this Cappingstuff wasnt on your priority list at that point and Blah Blah, its always something lol

Feel free man, i know Jig Jag and a few others have still been asking me what i can do to get you back there!
As if you dont make TD stronger? Yeah um, Oh Rearry!?!?! lol

Well shit, the days moving along, there are people who need to get paid today, and im one of em! So its back to the grind, we do it again, you know the other phrase.... (Shit you know all of them lol)

Kansas is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Dorothy and Toto Aint showin up to save anyone who doesnt know their shit!! LoL
 

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Thanx guys...

Not sure what I am doing tonight yet...After a cursory look at the board, Philly and the Clips jump out at me (and the Knicks over, but that line just jumped 1.5 points in 10 minutes)...But I need to read up on the Clips and Phoenix first...Camby and Baron Davis are hurt for the Clips and I need to check up on Nash (probably won't play) and Stoudamire for PHOE (played about 17 minutes last night, but will he sit on a back-ender?)...

Maybe the Clips game goes Under with all those guys out?...But remember what I said in a previous post yesterday about expecting Overs this final week of the preseason (it ends this FRI)...We had 3 legit Overs last night (easy Overs) and one OT-aided Over in the 4 games...Teams are playing their starters more minutes this week so the scores will be higher...

So I'll look at Philly and the Knicks over as possible bets, or I may pass...Will post all my picks later...
 

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Kansas is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Yeah, that's my favorite one...

If you think Dorothy, Toto or the Tinman are going to help you find winners, well then:

"Kansas is that-a-way >>>>>>>>>>>"...

You coined that one before Mike Matusow uttered his famous, "The kiddie table is that-a-way >>>>>>>>" at the World Series of Poker...Too funny...
 

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Man i dont know who i cant stand more him or Phil, two of the most ridiculous "Personalities" to represent Poker!

When you want people to call you "The Mouth"? And How old is Hellmuth? Actually having Clothes Made to say POKER BRAT?

Nuff said lol Fucking Idiots!!
 

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Preseason bets: 5-1, +$395
All picks: 43-32-2
#1 picks: 10-5

Sorry for the lateness as I had a ton of customers come in the last 2 hours...For the regular season, I will make sure I post before I go to my place of business, because once I get here, it can be hectic when you deal with the public...

No bets...

#1 Phi -4
#2 Bos -2.5
#3 LAC -1.5
#4 Memp +4.5
#5 Ind +7.5
#6 Chi +6
#7 Tor -3.5
#8 Char +7.5
 

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Forgot to update these:

All underdogs are now 50-29-2 this preseason before tonight...

Dogs still cranking out wins, big-time...

Unders are 42-38-2 this preseason...Overs 12-2 the last 3 days...

I did say in a recent post that the Overs would get hot and they are...Of course, I thought the FAVs would get hot, too, and they have not, yet...Still 4 nights to go for the FAVs to make a run...
 

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Hmm, you say Thinkdog?

Whod a thunk it!!?

Its like More "Rocket Sceince" lol
 

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All underdogs are now 50-29-2 this preseason before tonight...


Is this something that happens every year? Never really paid attention to the preseason before. Thanks Brew, good luck this season.
 

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LoL Brew i had to laugh the other day!

Some clown at SPX, you know that site, he starts yappin with me, because i always bash him for being an idiot?

You have got to be sittin down!!

He says to me, you may have a good record?
But you Play Juice , and that everyone is jealous of him!! After me pointing out that he doesnt post a Unit when he posts his little Plays in the cute little POD section of SPX; he says he plays for % but took over 60 games last year of -200 or more?!?! Nd was under 50% with that % and had/lost 45 of those 60 Juiced -200's+!!! Dude, you tell me to my face youve ever seen me play anything over -150 without it being in a combo, because after -150, Im lookin Dog and/ or thinkin maybe Ill combo it or something because I DONT RUN A TROPICANA STORE!! EITHER DO YOU Brew, you know Mang!!!!
So i continued! "Oh and my forum has been Called Thinkdog for 6 Years YA Shmuck!! Um Rearry? And ask your Head Moderator About how he helps me Run MY site, so if ya keep runnin your Yap? LOL

Talk about the most Juice conscious M*&her F*$%er Youve ever known? lol

At the tracker site im using this year?
I have made alot of plays, ive made 3,,,thats a 3!!
3--- 4* Plays!! Im trying to keep everything at a realistic Play by play close to honest Units as a tracker site should be, i Barely get into the 3* plays much less a 4*, (3 In Over 300 Picks!!) and not a 5* Laid yet!!
I am not Toto, none of us Travel down a yellow brick road with Dorothy to save the Tin man from Putting his C*6K in the Scarecrows ass!! I dont Put my topics with A Flarey Wow Title!! I can write up till the cows come home and i know my shit, whatever!!

Its about being real and tryin to understand the seriousness of what we do!!
And how about them S*stem People ?
Yeah theres a system baby! and you wrote it!! LOLOL My god!!

And PS2 And people actually asking for more!!? You want to reflect your gambling habits by turning on playstation and comparing how the game went on your little screen to the how the Real game will go!? Yeah lets invest in that baby!! LOL
Dude, I dont want to get banned here for bashing people ok, so ill try not bash anyone, here, atleast if thats ok !! LOL

Dude, the 3 best fades on the internet? Who should be playing Backgammon, making their only bet on who has to dishes after dinner!?!
LOL Ahh ill Pm this story to you, its too good and too hysterical! I cant, the Rx will probably flip on me, im not wanting that at all btw!! !!

Ill Pm ya man!! LoL
 
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Dude, the 3 best fades on the internet? Who should be playing Backgammon, making their only bet on who has to do dishes after dinner!?!
LOL Ahh ill Pm this story to you, its too good and too hysterical! I cant, the Rx will probably flip on me, im not wanting that at all btw!! !!

Ill Pm ya man!! LoL

PM me that story...I wanna read that...But yeah, don't put the "best 3 fades on the Internet" on the open forum here because it'll ruffle feathers and there's no need to do that...Not unless you want to start your own thread with that title and watch the bashers come out of the woodwork...But hell, I don't want those kind of fireworks in this thread...Yikes...


Is this something that happens every year? Never really paid attention to the preseason before. Thanks Brew, good luck this season.

Quick crunched the numbers for ya...It depends on the year:

Underdogs were:

2004: 49-64-2
2005: 68-40-1
2006: 60-46-2
2007: 47-57
2008: 50-29-2 coming into tonight...<!-- / message -->
 

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LoL No no no , i dont want that at all, i really dont know the capacity of this forum and what therx is totally about, although ive heard stories i suppose, but no i dont want to start all that, i was just talking to you and realized that i shouldnt post the total story and no i dont want to see you dealing with this conversation between you and I, sorry

Brew and I go back 5 + years people, sorry about that!!
To all, and you mang!
 

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Preseason bets: 5-1, +$395
All picks: 47-36-2
#1 picks: 10-6

All underdogs are now 56-31-2 during the preseason...

Dogs just unreal, a 6-2 night last night, why I even bother to go away from the DOGs at this point is just puzzling...

Unders are 47-41-2 this preseason...Unders rebounded with a 5-3 night after the Overs went 12-2 the previous 3 days...

2 plays that stand out: the Cle/Det under and the T'Wolves...I like 5 FAVs tonight, but am only picking 4 because I just refuse to take a 9-point FAV in the preseason (line down to 8 at some books now) when the opponent is not at least playing the back-end of a back-to-back...Just against my nature...

The Cle/Det under is just a standard play as they have been a stone under head-to-head in the regular season the last several years (the same way SA/Det has been and those 2 put up a 150 earlier in the preseason)...There are 5 teams playing the back-end of a back-to-back tonight, and the team that looks like the best to bet against is the Bulls, especially when the T'Wolves have played pretty well this preseason, going 5-1 SU & 4-1-1 ATS...Chicago had a huge 4Q last night in Dallas, outscoring the Mavs 37-16 to erase a 17-point deficit to win by 4...

I will pass on these two, but if you're looking for action, slapping something small on those two should be ok...But I am being super-selective this year and may limit my bets significantly, although I think I have a betting strategy that I may unleash this year where I have 3 separate bankrolls to accomodate the different "level" or "strength" of plays that I have during the course of the year...These 2 plays would be "Level 1" plays on a scale of 1 to 3 with 3 being the strongest...More on that later as the regular season approaches...

All picks (no bets, despite being tempted):

#1 Min -4
#2 Port -4
#3 Phi +1.5
#4 Orl -8
#5 Det -5.5
#6 Was +8
 

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Quick crunched the numbers for ya...It depends on the year:

Underdogs were:

2004: 49-64-2
2005: 68-40-1
2006: 60-46-2
2007: 47-57
<!-- / message --> 2008: 50-29-2 coming into tonight...


Interesting, thanks.
 

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Thanx, Vinny...

Preseason bets: 5-1, +$395
All picks: 52-37-2
#1 picks: 10-7

All underdogs are now 59-34-2 during the preseason...

Dogs the play this preseason with 2 days left, although it wouldn't surprise me to see the FAVs finish strong here...

Unders are 51-43-2 this preseason...Unders rebounding with a 9-5 stretch the last 2 days after the Overs went 12-2 the previous 3 days...

I am passing tonight again on bets...The reason is I don't see much (if any) difference in the strength of my top 6 plays...Seems like the #6 is pretty much as strong as my #1 and I know there is no way I am betting 6 preseason games in one night...No totals sticking out tonight...

I have ATL at #1 because DET is on the back-end of a back-to-back and I remember last year Flip Saunders would sit some starters on back-enders in the preseason...Of course, Michael Curry is the new coach, and the Pistons have responded very well to him so far with a 6-1 preseason record...I didn't read up on it, but I just have a hunch some starters will either not play or play reduced minutes...I could be wrong, therefore no bet...ATL has played well at DET the last 2 seasons at times...I don't have my database in front of me here at work, but I am fairly sure from memory that the Hawks have beaten Detroit straight up at the Palace in the regular season once last year and once the season before...

As far as the Lakers game goes, yes, Kobe is supposed to play, but c'mon, how much?...And CHAR is winless this preseason, so some motivation here to try and grab a win in their final preseason game...

Picks using most recent lines from Olympic (no bets):

#1 Atl +5
#2 Char +6
#3 Hou -3
#4 NO -5.5
#5 Utah -3.5
#6 OKC +8
#7 Min -4
#8 Ind +7
 

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