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Yeah it's just black people dying. Suprised anyone would be making a point in their defense(not really in their defense). Didn't think you cared about black people dying. It's the cultures fault according to most here.

All lives matter to me, even illegals, Muslims and Asians

Even unborn black babies in the third trimester
 

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Automatic weapons are not a problem in America. Very few people have them, nobody has ever used one in a mass shooting since you've been alive, so can we agree to stop talking about them?

Semi-automatic firearms are the most common type in the world. Somewhere around 75% of the handguns in America are semi-automatic. You aren't going to ban them. Aside from the fact it is a silly idea, it isn't practical.

The great part about living in a free society is that I don't have to tell you why I need something. Your rights aren't defined by needs.

Imagine if we told Jay Leno: too many people die in car accidents, sorry, you don't need all those cars. We're going to ban them.

Same for books.

The fact of the matter is that a large scale gun ban/attempted confiscation will lead to bloodshed that will make what happened in Las Vegas seem like warm ups. The people calling for gun bans hilariously don't get this. But I can assure you, nobody is ever coming to my home to take any weapon I own without facing death. So, the people who want to ban guns are effectively saying "start the civil war, I don't give a shit because I'm not the one who will get shot, it is the poor sheriff's deputies who have to enforce my dumb idea."

Sure you do, in certain circumstances. Prescription drugs come to mind. Building permits. I'm sure there are other examples.

Even guns right now require "application" and "approval" to legally own, no?

We're just talking about a common sense limit.

Saying "it's a free country so I shouldn't have to tell you why I need 42 guns" is akin to saying "it's a free country so I will drive 100 mph through your neighborhood and I don't have to tell you why. Fuck your speed limit." When it affects the general population, sometimes there need to be controls.

Freedom is not the same as anarchy.

^which is why your example of books and cars is retarded.

Common sense gun laws would be designed to directly affect the SAFETY of our citizens. Just like you have to take your shoes off for the TSA, or drive the speed limit, or wear a seatbelt, etc etc etc.

Limiting you to 3 handguns instead of 42 is not the same thing as burning your harmless book collection or confiscating your televisions. Come on man, you're smart enough to recognize the difference.
 

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^which is why your example of books and cars is retarded.

Common sense gun laws would be designed to directly affect the SAFETY of our citizens. Just like you have to take your shoes off for the TSA, or drive the speed limit, or wear a seatbelt, etc etc etc.

Limiting you to 3 handguns instead of 42 is not the same thing as burning your harmless book collection or confiscating your televisions. Come on man, you're smart enough to recognize the difference.

Cars kill more than 3 times as many people as guns.

Dumb ideas in books have killed millions of people.

Try again.
 

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Sure you do, in certain circumstances. Prescription drugs come to mind. Building permits. I'm sure there are other examples.

Even guns right now require "application" and "approval" to legally own, no?

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You don't have a right to build a building nor do you have a right to a prescription.

I can go buy (or take as a gift) a firearm from my uncle and there is no application what so ever. So, no.
 

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That’s the problem, it shouldn’t be the sheriff’s Deputies that are shot at, it should be the people that are voting for gun bans that are shot at.

I agree.

And I assure you, I am going to kill as many of them as I can if they somehow institute some massive gun ban.
 

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Saying "it's a free country so I shouldn't have to tell you why I need 42 guns" is akin to saying "it's a free country so I will drive 100 mph through your neighborhood and I don't have to tell you why. Fuck your speed limit." When it affects the general population, sometimes there need to be controls.

Freedom is not the same as anarchy.

You don't have a right to drive.

It is broadly accepted you don't have a right to an automatic weapon, tank, bazooka, or private army. So, we can stop pretending that there are no gun regulations now.
 

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Yeah it's just black people dying. Suprised anyone would be making a point in their defense(not really in their defense). Didn't think you cared about black people dying. It's the cultures fault according to most here.

No, it's the individual's fault for breaking the law.
 

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Cars kill more than 3 times as many people as guns.

Dumb ideas in books have killed millions of people.

Try again.

Automobiles fulfill a legitimate need within our society.

A book has never directly killed anyone, that's a major stretch.

Try again.
 

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And, the shooter in Texas that slaughtered the 26 church-goers unloaded 15 magazines of 30 rounds each. He got off 450 rounds in four minutes. If that is not an automatic weapon, you are just playing semantics.

He did not "get off 450 rounds in four minutes"

You are the type that gets "facts" from politicians like this guy.

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Automobiles fulfill a legitimate need within our society.

A book has never directly killed anyone, that's a major stretch.

Try again.

You don't have a constitutional right to drive.

Should we ban books that advocate hateful ideas? Violent ideas? Communism has killed more people than any idea in history of man. Should we get rid of books with that idea?

Since guns are not a leading cause of death in America, should we spend so much time talking about them?
 

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One thing I think we can do is invest resources to clean up the NICS database. I don't understand how some of these errors keep happening, it seems to be a pretty straight forward process (send records to FBI in West Virginia, they do the rest). There is some issue here with the bureaucrats collecting this data obviously. I support the idea that we need to figure out what is causing these failures and fix it.
 

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One thing I think we can do is invest resources to clean up the NICS database. I don't understand how some of these errors keep happening, it seems to be a pretty straight forward process (send records to FBI in West Virginia, they do the rest). There is some issue here with the bureaucrats collecting this data obviously. I support the idea that we need to figure out what is causing these failures and fix it.

I don't understand that system. What crimes do people commit to get put into the system? Is it by state or federal?
 

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EF, it is essentially a 50-state system (with the exception of the military and some other federal government branches).

If you get convicted of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon in Washington State, they transmit that conviction to the FBI and you should never pass a FFL background check again.
What seems to be confusing is if you're on active duty, and are convicted of a crime who does this?

Otherwise, there was another shooting (I forget which one) where the shooter should have been flagged by the NICS and was not. As a guess, there are probably a lot of paper and otherwise missing records in perhaps too many of our states.
 

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EF, it is essentially a 50-state system (with the exception of the military and some other federal government branches).

If you get convicted of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon in Washington State, they transmit that conviction to the FBI and you should never pass a FFL background check again.
What seems to be confusing is if you're on active duty, and are convicted of a crime who does this?

Otherwise, there was another shooting (I forget which one) where the shooter should have been flagged by the NICS and was not. As a guess, there are probably a lot of paper and otherwise missing records in perhaps too many of our states.

Are you from Washington?
 

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Not a vital one IMO. Talking about the civilian world here.

Society absolutely would not function at .0000000000001% with no automobiles.

Well, that depends on many factors including your location and personal situation.
 

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