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nope not a penn state fan, but they WILL beat USC by 10+
Are you kidding me? I wouldn't rank PSU in top 10 myself but i think PSU will give USC QB all of the pressure he couldn't ever imagine, and pointspread in the bowls for USC doesn't look good either, PSU lose the game less than a TD.:103631605
 

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USC does not have the offense they need this year to skull fuck anyone in the top 4. Their defense is down right sick and talent is deep but no way will I put this year's USC in that kind of catagory. I may be alone here but with their so so O-line and QB play they could easily loose to an elite team.
 
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nope not a penn state fan, but they WILL beat USC by 10+

Well, what is it going to be. Are you man enough to back up your statement financially or will you ignore it & pretend it was never made?

Minimum 5 figures USC +dd over Penn State
 
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Well, what is it going to be. Are you man enough to back up your statement financially or will you ignore it & pretend it was never made?

Minimum 5 figures USC +dd over Penn State

Come on EGD...you are smarter than that...no one in the world will give you plus 10 or more with USC...the guy is obviously a homer and he is just blowing steam....but if we take the opening line, I am sure you will have a lot of action from folks here....:103631605
 

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everyone needs to just remain calm, I'm sure the pac 10 will have at least 2 or 3 bowl eligible teams inwhich to lay the lumber. Likewise there will be a multitude of big 12 teams you can fade.
 

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Let me ask everyone a question and I want you to answer it honestly without any bias or hype.

If USC had to play Oklahoma, Texas, or even Mizzou's schedule, do you think they would still have the number 1 defense in the country on paper?

My answer is no, if you put USC on a real schedule against real opponents than they would have maybe the 2nd or 3rd best defense.. In their conference. Anyone who thinks otherwise is completely dillusional in my opinion. USC does not have to play the caliber of teams that the BIG 12 has produced this year week in and week out and would falter many many times.

Now, take the opposite, take Oklahoma or Texas and put them in USC's conference. I guarantee you that either of those teams would have the number 1 defense in the country if they played USC's schedule. I can also guarantee you that neither OU or Texas would have lost to Oregon St.

I am not even going to get into the Florida discussion because I believe that the conferences of Florida and USC are equally crappy this year so I put USC and Florida par with eachother.
 

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Let me ask everyone a question and I want you to answer it honestly without any bias or hype.

If USC had to play Oklahoma, Texas, or even Mizzou's schedule, do you think they would still have the number 1 defense in the country on paper?

My answer is no, if you put USC on a real schedule against real opponents than they would have maybe the 2nd or 3rd best defense.. In their conference. Anyone who thinks otherwise is completely dillusional in my opinion. USC does not have to play the caliber of teams that the BIG 12 has produced this year week in and week out and would falter many many times.

Now, take the opposite, take Oklahoma or Texas and put them in USC's conference. I guarantee you that either of those teams would have the number 1 defense in the country if they played USC's schedule. I can also guarantee you that neither OU or Texas would have lost to Oregon St.

I am not even going to get into the Florida discussion because I believe that the conferences of Florida and USC are equally crappy this year so I put USC and Florida par with eachother.


Bingo!
 

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Bottom line is you can't be a double digit favorite in every game(-21,-12,-24,-16,-28,-42,-15.5,-45,-22.5,-24,-33.5, &
-32) and lose to a 4 loss team favored by 24 and expect to play for a national title. When you are favored that much on the road you are playing some pretty bad teams. USC may be the best team, but who the hell knows. Their best win against Ohio st was without their top running back and a dual qb system. I believe USC still wins if played today, but this was their signature win and the big ten is another weak conference. Again USC may be the best team, but the BCS did not make their schedule. USC either needs to give up some athletes so their conference is more competitive, or move to the big 12 or sec so they can lose one and still get in.
 

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Let me ask everyone a question and I want you to answer it honestly without any bias or hype.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is completely dillusional in my opinion. USC does not have to play the caliber of teams that the BIG 12 has produced this year week in and week out and would falter many many times.


What is the point in answering, you have already made up your mind.
 

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Alabama may be the biggest pretender, combined records of teams they beat are 66-76. Non conference 16-29. Played 5 teams over 500 and two of those are from nonconference. Dang after further review, the SEC sucks this year TN 5-7, aub5-7, ark 5-7, lsu 7-5. Just found this interesting.
 

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Alabama may be the biggest pretender, combined records of teams they beat are 66-76. Non conference 16-29. Played 5 teams over 500 and two of those are from nonconference. Dang after further review, the SEC sucks this year TN 5-7, aub5-7, ark 5-7, lsu 7-5. Just found this interesting.


ARK should get used to it. Petrino was a bad hire, not saying he is a bad coach, I just don't think he is going to fit in there. Also, he took over a program that was still on the upswing from John L Smith at the Ville.
He still has a lot to prove in my book.


Ark ran of Houston Nutt, they would have still made a bowl game under Nutt. Nutt is going to transform Ole Miss into what Ark was and maybe even better than he did at Ark.
 

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ARK should get used to it. Petrino was a bad hire, not saying he is a bad coach, I just don't think he is going to fit in there. Also, he took over a program that was still on the upswing from John L Smith at the Ville.
He still has a lot to prove in my book.


Ark ran of Houston Nutt, they would have still made a bowl game under Nutt. Nutt is going to transform Ole Miss into what Ark was and maybe even better than he did at Ark.

Petrino was a great hire imo. He will have Arkansas at the top before Miles has LSU back there, or Kiffen has Tennessee there. Petrino is a great coach, most just hate him. In most conferences Petrino would be the top coach, but in the SEC he's still behind Saban, and Meyer.
 

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Let me ask everyone a question and I want you to answer it honestly without any bias or hype.

If USC had to play Oklahoma, Texas, or even Mizzou's schedule, do you think they would still have the number 1 defense in the country on paper?

My answer is no, if you put USC on a real schedule against real opponents than they would have maybe the 2nd or 3rd best defense.. In their conference. Anyone who thinks otherwise is completely dillusional in my opinion. USC does not have to play the caliber of teams that the BIG 12 has produced this year week in and week out and would falter many many times.

Now, take the opposite, take Oklahoma or Texas and put them in USC's conference. I guarantee you that either of those teams would have the number 1 defense in the country if they played USC's schedule. I can also guarantee you that neither OU or Texas would have lost to Oregon St.

I am not even going to get into the Florida discussion because I believe that the conferences of Florida and USC are equally crappy this year so I put USC and Florida par with eachother.

One of the dumbest comments I have seen posted on here without question. Half of USC's defense are first round draft picks. They likely have more first round draft picks on defense than the entire Big 12, yet you think there are a couple teams within that conference that play better defense? Just plain stupid.

Player for player USC has the most talented team in the nation. This can not be debated it is a fact. Ohio St is arguably ahead of every Big 12 school as well in terms of pure talent, but you could say OK is slightly ahead of them. Not saying tOSU is better than OK or TX, just saying they might have a more talented roster.

In terms of defense though both USC and tOSU have 10x the talent OU or TX have. That is without question. USC and tOSU could make an All-American defense themselves.
 

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Weren't Matt Leinart, Reggie Bush, RJ Soward, Mike Williams, Kenechi Udeze, Winston Justice, Carson Palmer 1st round picks? The jury is still more than out on Sedrick Ellis and Keith Rivers too(don't think either will do much). Troy Polamalu is about the only one who comes to mind who has exceeded expectations.
 

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Weren't Matt Leinart, Reggie Bush, RJ Soward, Mike Williams, Kenechi Udeze, Winston Justice, Carson Palmer 1st round picks? The jury is still more than out on Sedrick Ellis and Keith Rivers too(don't think either will do much). Troy Polamalu is about the only one who comes to mind who has exceeded expectations.
vince young and troy smith doing great as well...:missingte come on. anybody can list busts from top programs. weak argument
 

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vince young and troy smith doing great as well...:missingte come on. anybody can list busts from top programs. weak argument

I bet whormoan can't come up with a bust list from anywhere else like that one. If he knows so much about these busts, surely he can name another school that has their share of unsuccessful NFL draftees. There are dozens of them. If not, that should prove even to him that he is obsessed. If it was an actress or some other famous personality instead of USC, he'd be arrested for stalking.
 

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I will respectfully disagree. Oklahoma State would beat Ohio State. Cincinnati would have a strong chance to do so as well. TCU if they could score some would beat them as well.

Doesn't matter as USC beats all the teams listed.


If you think Cincinnati would come close to or beat Ohio St outright......then you need to put down the USC-Kool-aid and wake up.

That is a ridiculous statement.
 

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I am sorry to rain on USC's Rose Bowl parade again.....but who has USC beat this year exactly?

I completely agree that they have an exceptional defense......but this defense played the likes of..

Ohio St #80 in total offense
Virgina #105 in total offense
Wazzu #118 in total offense
Washington #115 in total offense
Oregon #8 in total offense
California #58 in total offense
Oregon St #27 in total offense
Notre Dame #74 in total offense
Stanford #69 in total offense
Arizona #34 in total offense
ANd the mighty Bruins offense this week....#110 in total offense..

they played 3 teams who are ranked in the top 50 in total offense...and they got run all over by one of them...
 

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Weren't Matt Leinart, Reggie Bush, RJ Soward, Mike Williams, Kenechi Udeze, Winston Justice, Carson Palmer 1st round picks? The jury is still more than out on Sedrick Ellis and Keith Rivers too(don't think either will do much). Troy Polamalu is about the only one who comes to mind who has exceeded expectations.

Matt Leinart is backing up an MVP candidate, Kenechi Udeze was starting and tied for the team lead in sacks before he was diagnosed with leukemia, Palmer has been to the Pro Bowl multiple times, being named MVP once. Soward & Williams are certainly busts, and Justice was a 2nd round pick.
 
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Well, what is it going to be. Are you man enough to back up your statement financially or will you ignore it & pretend it was never made?

Minimum 5 figures USC +dd over Penn State

no i just seen this post not ignoring it....why would i take penn state and give u 10 when i can take them plus points?? im not a penn state homer eitehr, as a matter of fact im not a fan of any team. i am a fan of the sport of college football and enjoy watching good matchups
 

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