You know what's funny...

[SheriffJoe]

“Someone in the crowd said to Him, ‘Teacher, tell my brother to divide the family inheritance with me.’ But He said to him, ‘Man, who appointed Me a judge or arbitrator over you?’”
Luke Chapter 12:13-14

"For even when we were with you, we used to give you this order: if anyone is not willing to work, then he is not to eat, either."
2 Thessalonians 3:10

 

[MantisToboggan]

FZ, believe it or not I agree. It just pisses me off that Joe thinks he knows ANYTHING about the poor. Or the reasons they are poor. In truth, poverty in the US is just a shadow of what it is in most parts of the world.

This is true. You haven't seen real poverty until you've been somewhere like India, Africa, etc.

 

[festeringZit]

FZ, believe it or not I agree. It just pisses me off that Joe thinks he knows ANYTHING about the poor. Or the reasons they are poor. In truth, poverty in the US is just a shadow of what it is in most parts of the world.

I think Joe probably means well, he's just so frustrated at the state of our federal government (as we all are).

 

[MantisToboggan]

"For even when we were with you, we used to give you this order: if anyone is not willing to work, then he is not to eat, either."
2 Thessalonians 3:10

Where did you get this absolutely insane idea that all people living in poverty don't want to work. Joe, you are really hard to stomach at times.

 

[festeringZit]

This is true. You haven't seen real poverty until you've been somewhere like India, Africa, etc.

I've seen some poverty-stricken places in Mexico and South America, and that I imagine pales in comparison to some places in India and Africa...

 

[festeringZit]

Where did you get this absolutely insane idea that all people living in poverty don't want to work. Joe, you are really hard to stomach at times.

He's referring to the large amount of people that are content to life off our welfare system.

 

[MantisToboggan]

I've seen some poverty-stricken places in Mexico and South America, and that I imagine pales in comparison to some places in India and Africa...

Ya, there is certainly extreme poverty in Mexico and South America as well. Isn't it crazy to think that 800 million people lack access to safe water in 2015? The number of children that die each year from water related disease is heartbreaking.

 

[MantisToboggan]

He's referring to the large amount of people that are content to life off our welfare system.

I can't argue that those people don't exist, but they don't exist on the scale that Joe would have you believe.

 

[SheriffJoe]

I know this is in the Bible somewhere...

Jesus said create this massive corrupt bureaucracy which shall decide what is "fair" picking winners and losers.

- single mom who can't keep her legs closed: qualifies for all kinds of taxpayer goodies
- stay-at-home married mom who plays by the rules: ZERO benefits

Remind me why I HATE liberals again...and by 'hate' I mean righteous anger.

 

[SheriffJoe]

I can't argue that those people don't exist, but they don't exist on the scale that Joe would have you believe.

18 trillion enough of a 'scale' for ya?

It exists to the extent the country is now bankrupt because there are too many moochers (Pauls) taking from the pot, which leads to the type of Mickey Mouse loose monetary policies pushing down the Peters ever more.

Soooo....not only are the Peters being taxed, controlled and regulated to death, the government is destroying whatever crumbs they get to keep in the process.

It's really not how much you earn but how much you get to keep and what your money will buy you.

 

[GasMan]

I know this is in the Bible somewhere...

Jesus said create this massive corrupt bureaucracy which shall decide what is "fair" picking winners and losers.

- single mom who can't keep her legs closed: qualifies for all kinds of taxpayer goodies
- stay-at-home married mom who plays by the rules: ZERO benefits

Remind me why I HATE liberals again...and by 'hate' I mean righteous anger.

Game, set, match. Well done Joe.

 

[festeringZit]

Welfare Payout Statistics That Will Make Your Blood Boil!




Having trouble just making ends meet because of taxes that go to people who don’t work?
Check your State and see how you’d do not working at all!

A Cato Institute study has determined that welfare benefits in fact payout more than a full time minimum wage job in at least 35 states! WTF? 1. The free money is more than $15 an hour in over ten states
2. Welfare is more than a newly college educated teacher in eleven states makes
3. Outdoes the salary of a computer programmer in three states!
4. The highest welfare payouts are over $20 an hour! (Hawaii, with payments equaling $29.13 per hour, DC at $24.43 per hour, Massachusetts at $24.30 , Connecticut at $21.33, New York at $21.01 per hour, New Jersey at $20.89 per hour, Rhode Island at $20.83 per hour and Vermont at $20.36 per hour)

 

[SheriffJoe]

 

[SheriffJoe]

Hey, remember when mooching carried a social stigma?

Of course not - look who hell is president!

Entitled liberals wear food stamps and welfare benefits the way America's vets wear their war medals: with honor!

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Universities encourage students to enroll in food stamp program

Posted By Aleksandra Kulczuga On 1:09 AM 03/27/2010 In Blog - Aleksandra Kulczuga | 79 Comments

About 20,000 people sign up for food stamps every day, and college students across the country are the newest demographic being encouraged to enlist.

Portland State University devotes a page on its Web site to explaining the ease with which students can receive benefits, along with instructions on how to apply. The school says food stamps are not charity but rather a benefit all honest taxpaying citizens can afford. The U.S. Department of Agriculture renamed food stamps the Supplemental Nutrition and Assistance Program (SNAP) in 2008, instituted electronic debit cards instead of coupons, and began an aggressive push to expand eligibility.

This is from the school’s site:

Here are some additional SNAP facts:

• Over half of all U.S. citizens will use SNAP at least once during their lifetime.
• SNAP is not a charity. As a taxpayer, you are paying into this program and, when needed, you can reap the benefits.
• There are enough SNAP dollars for everyone that needs them. As a matter of fact, about 20 percent of Oregonians who are eligible for SNAP do not apply.
• Students receiving SNAP can defer their student loans while they are receiving benefits.
• Applying for SNAP is easy. In most cases, you will not have to apply more than once a year.
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Traditionally food stamps are for the working poor and single parents, but colleges are trying to make it as easy as possible for students to obtain federal assistance, no matter their socio-economic background.

Oregon has a state-wide non-profit which includes a special focus on food stamps for students:

Being a college student is hard work! Not just academically, but financially too. Many students are surprised to learn they may be eligible for SNAP (food stamps). Students who meet income guidelines may qualify if they meet at least one of the following criteria:

• Full-time student who works at least 20 hours per week.
• Full-time single student who is caring for children younger than the age of 12.
• Full-time married student who is caring for children younger than the age of 6.
• At least a half-time student who is actively working any hours in a work-study program.

Note: federal financial aid including Pell grants, Perkins loans, Stafford loans and most work-study is not counted as income against student eligibility.
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In addition, the school notes that the federal government is working to eliminate the stigma associated with taking the government coupons to the checkout line:

Your EBT card looks and works like a debit card. You swipe it as you would a debit card, select “EBT” as the payment method, and enter the pin # that was assigned to you. No one except the cashier will know that it is an EBT card.

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The Grand Views, a college newspaper from Grand View University in Des Moines, Iowa, featured a story on students who apply for food stamps because they claim they don’t have time to hold down a job between classes and basketball practices. The paper wrote:

Once you show up, you sign in on a computer, answer a few questions and then they tell you if you qualify. It’s pretty simple.

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Massachusetts has several state-wide nonprofits that specifically help college students get food stamps. The Web site details the caveats associated with eligibility:

Q4: Can I get benefits if I still live with my parents?

If you are 22 or older, and if you buy and prepare more than half your meals separately from your parents, you can still apply for SNAP/Food Stamps for yourself.

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Adam Sylvain, a sophomore at Virginia’s George Mason University, recounted a recent conversation with friends in his dorm room. “My roommate told me he applied for food stamps, and they told him he qualified for $200 a month in benefits,” Sylvain said. “He’s here on scholarship and he saves over $5,000 each summer in cash.”

“A few of our other friends who were in the room also said if there were able to, they would get food stamps … They think that if they’re eligible it’s the government’s fault, so they might as well,” Sylvain said.

Students at GMU can buy a meal plan for $1,275 that provides 10 meals a week for the semester — that’s $71 a week.

As previously reported by The Daily Caller, The USDA is pushing to regional SNAP offices to ease eligibility requirements and forgo checking people’s financial situations before providing benefits. President Obama’s latest budget included $72.5 billion for food stamps — nearly double the amount from 2008. Approximately 38 million people, or 13 percent of the U.S. population is on food stamps.

It’s a trend that seems on the rise — Salon recently reported on young, broke hipsters using federal assistance to buy high-end organic food:

“I’m sort of a foodie, and I’m not going to do the ‘living off ramen’ thing,” one young man said, fondly remembering a recent meal he’d prepared of roasted rabbit with butter, tarragon and sweet potatoes. “I used to think that you could only get processed food and government cheese on food stamps, but it’s great that you can get anything.”

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The USDA’s Food and Nutrition Service did not respond to request for comment.

 

[SheriffJoe]

I think Joe probably means well, he's just so frustrated at the state of our federal government (as we all are).

I love how the libtards in here attack me for mocking the 'poor'. I'm not mocking the 'poor', I'm mocking moochers - by definition, FINANCIALLY DEPENDENT ADULTS, which previous sane generations simply used to call 'CHILDREN'

And there's a reason I use air quotes...the word 'poverty' itself is so ridiculously arbitrary these days (whatever brings in the most votes!) it has totally lost it's meaning. Gone are the days when 'poverty' was measured in absolute terms...

If you're a student with little or no income partying and drinking your ass off every weekend, the government considers you 'poor'

If you're living in a house that's paid for with little or no income, the poverty pimps considers you 'poor'

The word 'poverty' has no real meaning anymore - America as a nation long abandoned the true definition of compassion and 'poverty' (and logic along with it) decades ago.

These days, the left cleverly defines poverty in relative terms - "income inequality" It's not enough that you have a roof over your head, a working car in your driveway, every modern appliance previous generations could only dream of, the latest smart phone and flat screen TV...noooooooo, you're 'poor' because your neighbor drives a BMW and you only drive a Honda!

It's ridiculous! How ridiculous?

Look at the national debt - politicians can't even tax people fast enough to finance their own bullshit anymore!

 

[SheriffJoe]

Liberal Logic 101:

 

[vitterd]

This place gets more scary by the hour these days.

 

[JDeuce]

Welfare Payout Statistics That Will Make Your Blood Boil!

This is what I was referencing in the other thread when Guesser posted that dipshit's "I would never have made it without government assitance!" drivel. There is plenty of abuse that happens, and there is no incentive for these people to ever rid themselves of the welfare lifestyle.

I posted a link to an article here a few years ago.

(KMOV) -- A News 4 Investigation reveals Missouri residents receiving food stamps and welfare payments are spending them in places like Hawaii, California, and Florida.
News 4 requested public information regarding these expenses through the Missouri Department of Social Services. The agency provided a state by state break down of where Missouri benefits are being spent, click here to see the list.
In January Missouri EBT cards were used to withdraw $362,682 in cash outside the state. During that same time period Missouri EBT cards purchased $3,521,974 worth of food outside Missouri. Those card users racked up $752 worth of ATM fees, they were also paid by taxpayers.


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That should tell you all you need to know,. The state of Missouri audited their welfare EBT cards and noticed recipients were spending and withdrawing money in states like Hawaii, California and Florida...which naturally begs the question, what the fuck is someone on welfare living in Missouri even doing in any of those places? If every state was broken down invidivually, I'm sure your head would spin. I would understand if some of these people live right on the border and walk a mile to a 7-11 across the state line, but Hawaii, Florida and California are long walks from Missouri last time I checked.

As for Judge's posts about Jesus, I don't think he defined the "less fortunate" as those who don't really feel like doing anything for themselves so they wait around for handouts. To me, the best way to help those people is giving them an opportunity to "fish for themselves." I believe less fortunate is defined as people incapable of helping themselves...mentally retarded, handicapped, etc. I have zero problem with providing assistance for them...that's basic humanity. It's the leeches who are perfectly capable of providing for themselves, but choose not to...those are the ones I have a big problem with.

 

[Michelangelo]

Truth is scary, isn't it Vit?

 

[SheriffJoe]

The gang in the Walking Dead (everyone knows their role and freeloaders are booted out of the tribe) have a better grasp on human nature than liberals and their pie-in-the-sky econ theories.

Good rule of thumb: If you a feel a politician or left wing ideologue tugging at your heart strings, hang on to your wallet: