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What do you guys think about this 6 team parlay for the opening games:
Argentina
England
Germany
Holland
Spain
Brazil

Anyone think they will all win their first game? Also what happens if there is a draw? do I lose the parlay or does it just decrease the ammount I win?

i think your better off going with spread betting. draws happen a decent amount in the group stage. im guessin this a to win parlay not a pickem parlay. the only teams im really confident in winning their first game for sure are brazil spain and chile and i doubt that pays anywhere near even money, holland would be the 4th choice.
 

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watch out the first round boys, nobody is going all in on those. lots of draws and unders.
 

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im glad saint brought up something about the unders. the first games of the group stage should be played very close to the vest. with world cup being only every 4 years, no one wants to play their way out in game 1, which a bad loss pretty much would do.
 

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especially teams that play from their defense like greece, slovenia, australia, new zealand against teams that doesnt have killer offense are great unders. the bookies pricing is adjusted to that, but still you can make a nice profit wagering on those.

the last match of the group stage are always good for overs, many teams got to play hard to advance or just to claim top spot.

gl boys.
 

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watch out the first round boys, nobody is going all in on those. lots of draws and unders.

btw, there really aren't many draws early on...unders, yes, but not draws. I played a draw system in 2006 to take every game draw and basically martingale it until it hit. I lost about 10 years of my life doing that :)

in 2006 there was only 1 draw in first 12 games played then just 1 more in next 10 (2/22 ugh!). Draws picked up after that, 8 of final 28 group games, but it was a brutal, awful system attempt. 2002 saw many more draws, 6 of first 28 then 7 of final 20 (13/48) but nothing that would bring a profit blindly betting it. So in group stages in last two WC's there were just 23 draws in 96 games (less than 1/4). There were 14/48 draws in 1998 btw

30 of 48 group stage games in 2006 ended with a team getting shut out which was up from 23/48 in 2002 and 23/48 in 1998

Goals per game has been quite low for the last several world cups as 2002 and 2006 were two of the three lowest scoring WC's in history with only Italy 1990 being lower. No world cup since 1982 has averaged more than 2.8 goals per game and no WC in 50+ years has seen 3 gpg
 

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btw, there really aren't many draws early on...unders, yes, but not draws. I played a draw system in 2006 to take every game draw and basically martingale it until it hit. I lost about 10 years of my life doing that :)

in 2006 there was only 1 draw in first 12 games played then just 1 more in next 10 (2/22 ugh!). Draws picked up after that, 8 of final 28 group games, but it was a brutal, awful system attempt. 2002 saw many more draws, 6 of first 28 then 7 of final 20 (13/48) but nothing that would bring a profit blindly betting it. So in group stages in last two WC's there were just 23 draws in 96 games (less than 1/4). There were 14/48 draws in 1998 btw

30 of 48 group stage games in 2006 ended with a team getting shut out which was up from 23/48 in 2002 and 23/48 in 1998

Goals per game has been quite low for the last several world cups as 2002 and 2006 were two of the three lowest scoring WC's in history with only Italy 1990 being lower. No world cup since 1982 has averaged more than 2.8 goals per game and no WC in 50+ years has seen 3 gpg

you're right, very few draws, just checked my stats. the unders are hitting pretty good though in the first round! what was the ytd for the chase if i may ask? maybe its sound advice to play the dog straight up if you really like it. last WC the avg. goals per game was something like 2.3 as i can remember, maybe it was 2002. im really looking into the situation in the group to decide on a play. cant wait till friday!
 

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I'm new to betting on soccer... I know in American football if you have a team in your parlay that is favored by 7 and they win by 7 it is a no bet and it just decreases the ammount you would have won in your parlay.

But can someone answer the question about what happens in a soccer parlay if I have England, Brazil, Argentina, and Spain in a parlay and there is a draw in the England vs USA game? Do I lose the whole parlay or just win less. I use Bet US and I just picked all these teams in a ML parlay...


Also from what I'm reading it sounds like taking the under in the Germany vs Austrailia game might be a good idea right?
 

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But can someone answer the question about what happens in a soccer parlay if I have England, Brazil, Argentina, and Spain in a parlay and there is a draw in the England vs USA game? Do I lose the whole parlay or just win less. I use Bet US and I just picked all these teams in a ML parlay...
you lose the full stake unless, by ML parlay, you actually mean you have taken the PK line which would probably be around -600 for England, -20000 for Brazil, etc. If you took lines like England -225, Spain -350, etc that means you have the -1/2 goal line which works just like american football laying -1/2 point.
 

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you're right, very few draws, just checked my stats. the unders are hitting pretty good though in the first round! what was the ytd for the chase if i may ask? maybe its sound advice to play the dog straight up if you really like it. last WC the avg. goals per game was something like 2.3 as i can remember, maybe it was 2002. im really looking into the situation in the group to decide on a play. cant wait till friday!

not sure what you mean by YTD for the chase? I did not stop chasing until I hit that first draw in the 4th match then chased again for 8 matches just to break even on those. When it finally hit, France I think, I was up around 1700 bet for a draw just to break even. I remember being in Niagara and having to try to reload my offshore and they would not do it because I wasn't calling from home phone but finally they allowed it otherwise would have been chasing for nothing. life's little memories

the other chase i did, equally frustrating, was chasing all overs for round of 16. Of course odds were not like the +225 avg of a draw and it took until the 85th minute of the 7th game (out of 8) before it won and by then I was well into 4-digit staking and only broke even.

so, no chasing for me in WC 2010 :)


2.672 : France 1998
2.516 : Korea/Japan 2002
2.297 : Germany 2006
2.212 : Italy 1990 (lowest of all time)
 

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i actually think we are headed for a higher scoring cup then usual, possibly will rival frances 98 cup. most of the elite teams are better offensively then defensively, even a lot of the middling teams are to be honest. italys cup in 1990 was the last to award 2 points for a win. france 98 was also the most goals ever scored at a cup but not the highest average of all time, due to it having 64 matches. i think this all leads to less draws as a side effect.
 

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not sure what you mean by YTD for the chase? I did not stop chasing until I hit that first draw in the 4th match then chased again for 8 matches just to break even on those. When it finally hit, France I think, I was up around 1700 bet for a draw just to break even. I remember being in Niagara and having to try to reload my offshore and they would not do it because I wasn't calling from home phone but finally they allowed it otherwise would have been chasing for nothing. life's little memories

the other chase i did, equally frustrating, was chasing all overs for round of 16. Of course odds were not like the +225 avg of a draw and it took until the 85th minute of the 7th game (out of 8) before it won and by then I was well into 4-digit staking and only broke even.

so, no chasing for me in WC 2010 :)


2.672 : France 1998
2.516 : Korea/Japan 2002
2.297 : Germany 2006
2.212 : Italy 1990 (lowest of all time)

thats some good stuff, i was thinking off chasing unders, but sometimes the juice is -200 or higher, could be an expensive chase :) its not worth it wagering that much to win 50 bucks, and i think i'll be paranoid placing that last leg to win that tiny amount of $.
 

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i actually think we are headed for a higher scoring cup then usual, possibly will rival frances 98 cup. most of the elite teams are better offensively then defensively, even a lot of the middling teams are to be honest. italys cup in 1990 was the last to award 2 points for a win. france 98 was also the most goals ever scored at a cup but not the highest average of all time, due to it having 64 matches. i think this all leads to less draws as a side effect.
agreed..some of the powerhouse offensive teams will pull totals over themselves(spain and holland for example)..teams like uruguay and chile could put up crooked #'s too while at the same time allowing them as well...
 

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i actually think we are headed for a higher scoring cup then usual, possibly will rival frances 98 cup. most of the elite teams are better offensively then defensively, even a lot of the middling teams are to be honest. italys cup in 1990 was the last to award 2 points for a win. france 98 was also the most goals ever scored at a cup but not the highest average of all time, due to it having 64 matches. i think this all leads to less draws as a side effect.

Possibly but I would not put money on it.

I am not sure how the cooler tempreatures will effect play. June is also the wettest month in SA. I think there will be a lot of player fatigue in this tournament with the long club seasons which usually means less scoring.
 

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If you think Slovenia +175 to qualify is a good play, would you rather play Slovenia to finish 2nd in Group C paying +240? Doesn't seem likely that they overcome both the US and England...seems worth the extra 65 points of juice.
 

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If you think Slovenia +175 to qualify is a good play, would you rather play Slovenia to finish 2nd in Group C paying +240? Doesn't seem likely that they overcome both the US and England...seems worth the extra 65 points of juice.

i like that one as well to be honest. i wasnt playing those futures just suggesting them as leans, but yes that sounds pretty good as well.
 

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