and just to add one more knock on the albiceleste(and it hurts me to say cuz i love carlos tevez)....they don't play a high-octane offensive game...it is a very controlled attack from the back..the way the cokehead wants it...just because u know that leo and tevez and higuian, and milito who are all scoring machines, that play the euro game(highly offensive and open) doesn't equate to wins at this point of competition...maybe if they were encouraged to play more of a euro game, with their potent scoring options, they would be taken alot more serious, by serious punters...but until we see something other than the formation that rolltide pointed out 4-4-1-1 i don't see them goin any further than a 2nd round/quarters at best, bow-out