Why is USC ranked ahead of Utah or Penn State

[Conan]

There is one reason why USC is undeservingly ranked so high and that is money. There is alot more money in a ranked USC than any other team that actually deserves to be ranked ahead of them. Not many people care how Utah is doing but everyone wants to know how many points USC laid on another team that is under 3 wins on the season. Everyone knows that USC is a joke (even them) but they will keep up the charade and the theatrics to keep that money rolling in. And I guarantee you that even if they were a two loss team they would still be ranked ahead of Ohio State, Penn State, and Oregon State. It's Bs but such is USC.

You know what I want to see? A BS USC team play a big 12 team and get absolutely blown out of the water! Texas would beat them by 2td's plus, Tech would beat them by 1 TD, OU would beat them by 3 to 4 TD's. Hell even Missouri would have a shot.

Now I am not saying that USC has not had some good teams but this years team is a joke. In any conference other than the cupcake one they play in and they would have barely a winning record. End of Story! Anyone who believes other wise is dilusional and has been brained washed by the media.

You must have been born yesterday. You obviously don't read much because you would know who has the #1 defense in the country and be acquainted with people like Maualuga and Cushing etc. But you act like you have never heard of these guys or any of the rest of their future NFL prospects or any of their other 5* recruits they've been nailing for years.

And you really expect anyone to believe that all the AP writers and the coaches that vote give a holy crap about USC's money making ability? Are you the same guy that thinks the Pentagon arranged the World Trade Center bombings? If you are not him, I think you two should meet. Could be a romance for the both of you.

 

[asufan550]

Utah beat BYU, TCU, and Oregon State (who USC lost to).

Penn State beat Ohio State on the road, throttled everyone they played at home (including Oregon State who USC lost to).

So Utah, Penn State, and USC have 1 opponent in common who only USC lost to (were dominated by) yet USC is ranked ahead of the other two with an inferior record to both.

USC's only meaningful win was over an Ohio State team that doesn't even resemble the current version

Hmmmmmmm

You fail to mention that the Oregon State team that lost to Penn State doesn't even resemble the current version either.

 

[asufan550]

Why is USC ranked ahead of TT? TT lost on the road (by 40+) to a great team but have beaten Texas and Okl State. USC lost to (at the time unranked Ore State) and have beaten nobody.

There you go. Fixed it.

 

[Pick'n-Play]

Conan, you are delusional if you think that money is not the sole factor in everything. The money made on merchandise and advertising alone is in the billions. USC is a household name and a commodity.

Now, as for your defense statement, this makes me more angry than anything else. USC is rated so highly on defense due to their "impressive" numbers... well I could play a high school football team against most of their competition and have "impressive numbers" Just like when they were bitching because they blew out Washington state and fell in the polls. Yeah! you should have! You should have beat them by 100 and had the cheerleaders in pads playing them by the second quarter!

Then USC goes out against Cal and Arizona and just barely... barely.. win. If it were not for some very questionable calls than they would be a two loss team.

And then Oregon St. ... I won't fault them too much because every team plays a bad game every once in awhile but I mean come on. It was pathetic.

So, in closing, USC is a media backed capitalistic commodity that is traded just as an NFL team. And if you think that their showing in the top 10 every year despite unimpressive play, big let downs, and cupcake scheduling is not a result of some behind the screen string pulling than you sir live in a different reality than the rest of us.

 

[steaktartar]

usc doesnt deserve any consideration at all this year that being said above poster was very close usc -11 over utah prob - 10 over ps on neutral

 

[COVERIT!]

Conan, you are delusional if you think that money is not the sole factor in everything. The money made on merchandise and advertising alone is in the billions. USC is a household name and a commodity.

Now, as for your defense statement, this makes me more angry than anything else. USC is rated so highly on defense due to their "impressive" numbers... well I could play a high school football team against most of their competition and have "impressive numbers" Just like when they were bitching because they blew out Washington state and fell in the polls. Yeah! you should have! You should have beat them by 100 and had the cheerleaders in pads playing them by the second quarter!

Then USC goes out against Cal and Arizona and just barely... barely.. win. If it were not for some very questionable calls than they would be a two loss team.

And then Oregon St. ... I won't fault them too much because every team plays a bad game every once in awhile but I mean come on. It was pathetic.

So, in closing, USC is a media backed capitalistic commodity that is traded just as an NFL team. And if you think that their showing in the top 10 every year despite unimpressive play, big let downs, and cupcake scheduling is not a result of some behind the screen string pulling than you sir live in a different reality than the rest of us.

I love it. The one year the Pac 10 is really bad, now it's, "every year."
Check the past scheduling. USC is right up near the top of the pile with toughest scheduling, and they seem to do fine every year.

 

[whormoan]

You fail to mention that the Oregon State team that lost to Penn State doesn't even resemble the current version either.

It doesn't? Were the main players not the same? Beanie Wells and Pryor account for about 99% of OSU's offense.

 

[Pick'n-Play]

Ok, I will admit the "every year" thing was stretching it a little far because USC has had some great teams and great players.. but this year they are not impressive. I know I am fighting a losing battle because USC fans won't listen to any reason just like I will stick to my guns when anyone trash talks Mizzou so I will leave it at that.

Truthfully, I hope USC makes it to the national championship this year and plays Florida or Oklahoma because either team would lay between 45 to 58 points on them. The question then would be how many they could answer back with.

Just my two cents. GL to all of the teams either way. My team won't be playing for a national championship so I don't care. I am just tired of seeing great teams that play tough get cheated out every year. i.e. Utah, boise, TCU

 

[whormoan]

You must have been born yesterday. You obviously don't read much because you would know who has the #1 defense in the country and be acquainted with people like Maualuga and Cushing etc. But you act like you have never heard of these guys or any of the rest of their future NFL prospects or any of their other 5* recruits they've been nailing for years.

And you really expect anyone to believe that all the AP writers and the coaches that vote give a holy crap about USC's money making ability? Are you the same guy that thinks the Pentagon arranged the World Trade Center bombings? If you are not him, I think you two should meet. Could be a romance for the both of you.

#1 defense in the country based on what? They gave up 17 at the half (and were dominated for a half) by a weak, unskilled and pedestrian Stanford offense. Oregon State ran the same basic trap play up the middle over and over and over and over again and USC couldn't stop it with all their supposed "talent". And it helps your defensive "ranking" when TD's are taken off the board in virtually every home game.

 

[guitarjosh]

Why is USC ranked ahead of TT? TT lost on the road to a great team but have beaten Texas and Okl State. USC lost to (at the time unranked Ore State) and have beaten nobody.

People think USC would beat TT? I would like to see the records of Oregon State and TT if they played each others OOC.

OSU played 2 teams that are going to BCS bowls. The best team TT played is 6-5 Nevada.

 

[whormoan]

USC would blowout either one of these teams on a big stage. Come on people don't be idiots. A motivated USC team is easily the scariest team in college football.

Why wasn't USC motivated at Oregon State or Arizona or home against Cal or at Stanford, etc.......? Is it just their birthright to be placed in a "big game" they don't merit and then they can get up and get "motivated". You can't have your cake and eat it too. When you play in pathetic conference, LEAVE NO DOUBT

 

[sportzwhiz]

USC has the best defense in the nation. Have you seen how these guys punish their opponents when they get tackled or hit? Ouch! No doubt USC could beat Utah or Penn St. These two teams shouldn't be compared to USC and not in the same league. USC also humiliated Ohio St. Ohio St. looks good now because they haven't played anyone as good.

 

[whormoan]

USC has the best defense in the nation. Have you seen how these guys punish their opponents when they get tackled or hit? Ouch! No doubt USC could beat Utah or Penn St. These two teams shouldn't be compared to USC and not in the same league. USC also humiliated Ohio St. Ohio St. looks good now because they haven't played anyone as good.

You must've missed the USC/Ore State game as it seems half the country has. The only punishment being dished out was by 130 lb soaking wet J. Rodgers who ran up the gut over and over on USC. Or the Stanford 1st half. Anyone who watched a pedestrian (at best) Stanford team go up and down the field on USC can't possibly tell me a good offense wouldn't have their way with USC. How would anyone know how good USC's defense is when they haven't played a single offense worth a shit

 

[guitarjosh]

You must've missed the USC/Ore State game as it seems half the country has. The only punishment being dished out was by 130 lb soaking wet J. Rodgers who ran up the gut over and over on USC. Or the Stanford 1st half. Anyone who watched a pedestrian (at best) Stanford team go up and down the field on USC can't possibly tell me a good offense wouldn't have their way with USC. How would anyone know how good USC's defense is when they haven't played a single offense worth a shit

Why do you insist on holding USC to their worst halves of the season? They gave up 21 and 17 in those 2 first halves, but the rest of the games they gave up 6 on a 2 yard drive and a meaningless TD on the last play of the game.

 

[sportzwhiz]

Why wasn't USC motivated against Oregon St., Arizona, and Stanford? Do you think any BCS team would be? Yes, USC laid an egg at Oregon St. but remember that a dominant team like Florida did as well. If USC was to play against Utah or Penn St. in a bowl game, you'd have to be stupid not to put your money on USC. Must be a Trojan hater.

 

[Conan]

Conan, you are delusional if you think that money is not the sole factor in everything. The money made on merchandise and advertising alone is in the billions. USC is a household name and a commodity.

Now, as for your defense statement, this makes me more angry than anything else. USC is rated so highly on defense due to their "impressive" numbers... well I could play a high school football team against most of their competition and have "impressive numbers" Just like when they were bitching because they blew out Washington state and fell in the polls. Yeah! you should have! You should have beat them by 100 and had the cheerleaders in pads playing them by the second quarter!

Then USC goes out against Cal and Arizona and just barely... barely.. win. If it were not for some very questionable calls than they would be a two loss team.

And then Oregon St. ... I won't fault them too much because every team plays a bad game every once in awhile but I mean come on. It was pathetic.

So, in closing, USC is a media backed capitalistic commodity that is traded just as an NFL team. And if you think that their showing in the top 10 every year despite unimpressive play, big let downs, and cupcake scheduling is not a result of some behind the screen string pulling than you sir live in a different reality than the rest of us.

You are in serious trouble.
Find yourself a psychiatrist because your theories are so overblown, I doubt that you've touched down in a very long time. You take the obvious and twist it into something surreal. You actually believe in your own exaggerations to the point of losing a grip on reality. Practically every example you use can be said about Alabama or Florida this year but you have twisted yourself blind and don't understand what kind of shit happens during almost ANY team's season. Seriously man, you are one twisted dude. You won't hear that from me ever but in your case I have to say it because it's true. People here that know me know also that I don't just go off like this. But you take the cake.

What a sicko you are.

 

[Conan]

You must've missed the USC/Ore State game as it seems half the country has. The only punishment being dished out was by 130 lb soaking wet J. Rodgers who ran up the gut over and over on USC. Or the Stanford 1st half. Anyone who watched a pedestrian (at best) Stanford team go up and down the field on USC can't possibly tell me a good offense wouldn't have their way with USC. How would anyone know how good USC's defense is when they haven't played a single offense worth a shit

Quizz has a tendency to run up the middle on almost everyone he plays against. Why do you dismiss his 99 yards vs PSU just as an example. He's got an unusual talent to cut back a split second after he becomes visible to his opponents covering him. Why can't you just acknowledge a great talent when you see it instead of putting down some of the great players he played against. Would you have everyone believe that he never won an award for being the most prolific running back in the history of Texas high school football before he even showed up to play in CFB? Also, now you want everyone here to believe that Harbaugh can't coach too and what happened in the first half vs USC was purely USC's incompetence. As usual, your position is indefensible because of your blind hatred for USC. Anyone here who believes your blather must have been born yesterday because after USC has proven what they are capable of year after year after year, they still can't accept it.

DUH!

 

[Pick'n-Play]

Calm down Conan,

I apologize for getting a little out of hand last night, it was late and I was tired and was typing on emotion more than anything and that is the worst think you can go by when considering sports and especially capping. So anyways, here are more of my thoughts hopefully from a more objective view.

I am not saying that USC has not had some great teams that were rightfully ranked and touted due to their impecible play and dismantling of other great teams. Hell, USC blew out Oklahoma in a national championship game back in what was it.. 00 or 01? I will not now or ever dispute the fact that USC has had some teams of legend.. but.. not this year.

This year's team is simply riding on the curtails of the reputation of USC. This team has great players on it that play tough and would definitely perform at the next level but together as a group they are not liquid such as other teams that should rank above them and would beat them straight up.

I completely believe that Texas, OU, and Florida would beat them straight up this year. I would also be willing to bet that Oregon State would beat them again if they played them. Also I think Utah would give them a heck of a run for their money in a close game that USC would probably win by 10 points or less.

Now, let me get one thing straight, I am not a USC hater. I think they have a great program that is run well and they have a great reputation that allows them to nab the top recruiting classes. Most years I would rank USC above anyone else but once again.. not this year.

Anyways, bottom line here and the point I have been trying to make is that USC does not deserve their rank. There are two teams who should clearly be ranked above them and those are:

Texas Tech- Tougher schedule and loss to much higher ranked team and beat much higher ranked teams. (real competition)

Utah- undefeated, beat the team that beat USC

You can't argue with that. You just can't! Well, actually you can because that is your right but I mean c'mon!

BTW- I am not trying to piss anyone off I just want to express my opinion. If you have a hardon for USC than that is your perogative and I respect that. BOL to your team!

 

[whormoan]

Why do you insist on holding USC to their worst halves of the season? They gave up 21 and 17 in those 2 first halves, but the rest of the games they gave up 6 on a 2 yard drive and a meaningless TD on the last play of the game.

Because the competition is a joke. Do you not think Oklahoma or Florida would have not annhilated Cal, Stanford, Az, and OSU? And you're actually bragging on USC's accomplishments against high school teams Wash and Wash St? Those games and stats should be stricken from the records.

 

[Conan]

I am not saying that USC has not had some great teams that were rightfully ranked and touted due to their impecible play and dismantling of other great teams. Hell, USC blew out Oklahoma in a national championship game back in what was it.. 00 or 01? I will not now or ever dispute the fact that USC has had some teams of legend.. but.. not this year.

That sounds a little more sane.

But check out what happened in conference play in those "great" years. You will find some close conference games in those years too. They've dominated just about everyone this season for at least a quarter or two just the same way they have in the past. Conference play cannot be compared to big nonconf games no matter who you are comparing. I would caution you not to make your judgments that way but look at them on the whole the same way you look at any team's season. There will nearly always be close calls. That's just how it goes when you have a bulls-eye painted on your back the way USC has for years now. One thing you may not find too much of are close nonconf games involving USC and I don't think this year will turn out any different. In fact, the only game that I can remember them playing close was their loss to Texas in the NC game. Aside from that, it's nowhere. My only problem with USC is their OC. I dislike Sarkasian because he can't seem to organize their offense or focus them to explode on a regular basis. The players need motivation beyond what he provides. That doesn't mean that they are not the most talented group in the country. They've shed more transfers in the past few years than most teams would have hoped to sign.

People like whormoan can't come up with anything about the Trojans that has any kind of validity so he goes after the other teams in the conference as if "earning" their rank is all that matters. Imagine whormoan calling anyone on earning anything. He hasn't earned a penny in his life. I will keep reminding him because he shouldn't be qualified to judge anyone on those merits. He overemphasizes that probably because of some sort of guilt trip. Hard to say, but way exaggerated in importance, especially in USC's case. Simply put, the rankings are MOSTLY due to a teams strengths, not their opponents. That's why their rank is fair.