Why Is Tiger The Favorite To Win The Masters???

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I don't buy what the players say anymore than I buy what journalists say about the masters. Every reporter wants you to believe the course, atmosphere, etc. is so special and when someone tells the truth (think Gary McCord) they get axed. Those who run the masters have convinced everyone that it's a special course, tournament, etc. even though it's no different than any other major. It's de rigeur among the players to not dare say a single thing negative about the masters. "Knowledge might be more important than skill"? That's ridiculous.

2009 winner - Angel Cabrera; 2/123 lifetime
2008 winner - Trevor Immelman; 2/121 lifetime
2007 winner - Zach Johnson; 5/161 lifetime
2003 winner - Mike Weir; 8/311 lifetime

All other winners the past ten years were either Mickelson or Woods, who were winning everywhere else as well as at Augusta. Do those four aforementioned golfers have any special knowledge of Augusta? I doubt it; like a lot of players at other tournaments, they got hot at the right time and were able to win. It happens at any other tournament as well as at the masters.
 
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I don't buy what the players say anymore than I buy what journalists say about the masters. Every reporter wants you to believe the course, atmosphere, etc. is so special and when someone tells the truth (think Gary McCord) they get axed. Those who run the masters have convinced everyone that it's a special course, tournament, etc. even though it's no different than any other major. It's de rigeur among the players to not dare say a single thing negative about the masters. "Knowledge might be more important than skill"? That's ridiculous.

2009 winner - Angel Cabrera; 2/123 lifetime
2008 winner - Trevor Immelman; 2/121 lifetime
2007 winner - Zach Johnson; 5/161 lifetime
2003 winner - Mike Weir; 8/311 lifetime

All other winners the past ten years were either Mickelson or Woods, who were winning everywhere else as well as at Augusta. Do those four aforementioned golfers have any special knowledge of Augusta? I doubt it; like a lot of players at other tournaments, they got hot at the right time and were able to win. It happens at any other tournament as well as at the masters.

Gee why only go back 10 years? Why not go back 20 years , where players like Olazabal, Couples, Faldo, Singh,Langer, Crenshaw(all players with much experience at Augusta before they won) all were winners. Angel Cabrera has played the last 10 years with 4 top 10s along with his win. Dont try to say he has no knowledge of the course. So, basically in the last 20 years, only 3 players won who had very little experience or knowledge of the course.

Im done trying to explain to someone who does not understand golf and how unique the Masters is.
 

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I don't buy what the players say anymore than I buy what journalists say about the masters. Every reporter wants you to believe the course, atmosphere, etc. is so special and when someone tells the truth (think Gary McCord) they get axed. Those who run the masters have convinced everyone that it's a special course, tournament, etc. even though it's no different than any other major. It's de rigeur among the players to not dare say a single thing negative about the masters. "Knowledge might be more important than skill"? That's ridiculous.

2009 winner - Angel Cabrera; 2/123 lifetime
2008 winner - Trevor Immelman; 2/121 lifetime
2007 winner - Zach Johnson; 5/161 lifetime
2003 winner - Mike Weir; 8/311 lifetime

All other winners the past ten years were either Mickelson or Woods, who were winning everywhere else as well as at Augusta. Do those four aforementioned golfers have any special knowledge of Augusta? I doubt it; like a lot of players at other tournaments, they got hot at the right time and were able to win. It happens at any other tournament as well as at the masters.

lmao....are you freaking kidding me??? lmao....that is the stupidest thing i've ever read...geez...keep playing your muni's with flat greens...yea, it doesnt help to know where to hit the ball on the greens at augusta....they are the easiest greens of the year....lol, that was sarcasm... your an idiot
 

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i apologize i read it as there are 20 guys that are going to beat tiger.
however as history tells us. he is the best golfer of our time, he has lost his way, but with golf that happens, it has been 1.5 years since he as won. that is not a long time by golfing standards.

by tiger standards the media is telling us that tiger is off his game.

i personally would rather see other golfers win and i dont like tiger, but i do believe he is the favorite to win the masters yes
 

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I like Redeye have bought the " Tiger to win no majors " prop at - 120. As a matter of fact I bought it for Redeye and myself right here in Las Vegas at the Venetian/Palazzo. Should Tiger be favored to win the Masters ? I say no ! Why ? Simple .... He's changed his swing again .... He's lost his putting stroke..... He's in a slump that has lasted quite some time now. People seem to forget but Tiger was winless in the Majors for quite some time even before his problems started with his wife. His last Major victory was the 2008 U S Open which was in June of 2008. That was almost 3 years ago ! Tiger is not the same golfer that won 4 straight Majors. He is certainly one of the greatest golfers ever but right now He isn't playing like one of the greatest ever. We shall soon see but I love my wager and I will tell anyone what my wager is before it happens. If I lose the wager... everyone can say " I told you so " ! That's why they call it gambling. I just try to make wagers where I feel the odds are in my favor.
 

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I like Redeye have bought the " Tiger to win no majors " prop at - 120. As a matter of fact I bought it for Redeye and myself right here in Las Vegas at the Venetian/Palazzo. Should Tiger be favored to win the Masters ? I say no ! Why ? Simple .... He's changed his swing again .... He's lost his putting stroke..... He's in a slump that has lasted quite some time now. People seem to forget but Tiger was winless in the Majors for quite some time even before his problems started with his wife. His last Major victory was the 2008 U S Open which was in June of 2008. That was almost 3 years ago ! Tiger is not the same golfer that won 4 straight Majors. He is certainly one of the greatest golfers ever but right now He isn't playing like one of the greatest ever. We shall soon see but I love my wager and I will tell anyone what my wager is before it happens. If I lose the wager... everyone can say " I told you so " ! That's why they call it gambling. I just try to make wagers where I feel the odds are in my favor.


kermit16....first off i respect your capping. that said, tiger has changed his swing before and then won majors. yes, he has played like shit for awhile(for his lofty standards the public have given him, including myself). But, all these tourn leading up to the masters are tourn where these Big Guns, Tiger, Phil, westwood who is also playing like shit if you think tiger is playing like shit..they are all working on things leading up to their first major, which is really all tiger and Phil care about these days.

I dnt think the bet yall made is a dumb bet, at all. Its a great bet as a matter of fact, with what we have heard on ESPN and seen in these warmup tourn. My book has that bet for Tiger in the majors at....0 won $-200, 1 won at $+175, 2 won at +850, and 3 won at 4000, and grand slam at 10k.

I'm pretty confident that any other golfer would be at least $-400-$500 range to go a year without winning a major, and thats for the top ranked golfers in the world rankings. I dnt know that for a fact because my book only has the odds on majors for tiger so correct me if im wrong...

Anyways, all i'm saying to you and red eye is i understand yalls bet and i'd say its 50/50 you cash the ticket. According to jack nicklaus, this is the most important year for Tiger, if he intends to break his record. If tiger agrees with jack look out....he plays the toughest golf courses better than anyone because he can hit and see shots other people would never even think of, he can make par from places others would accept bogeys on, and whether you believe it or not, he can chip and putt on hard greens (augusta) better than anybody who has ever played golf before.

I'm not saying he wins cause he hasnt showed me anything for awhile and there is not value betting wise, but i dont think it would shock anybody if he does.

My picks on master all have value.
Sergio Garcia (long shot, but if he doesnt get frustrated he can play tough courses as good as anybody) $50 to win $3000
Bill Haas (put it in when he was playing well a month ago) 50 to win $3000

I will prob add one more eventually. Red eye, i dont post my picks on here so i'm not trying to get pple to believe my picks i could care less if you believe me. I have already stated i follow a few cappers on here that are way better than me. I dont claim to be awesome at picking games, but i'm pretty good at managing my small bankroll, lol. Anyways, this thread has gotten old to me. Good luck with yalls bet, but i hope it doesnt cash cause i'm a tiger homer
 

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Just a quick note. The wager of " Tiger to win no Major in 2011 " is now also gone up to - 180 to - 200 depending where you make the wager here in Las Vegas. This of course means that the wagering public are now also betting that Tiger doesn't win a Major this year. I hope the public is right this time even if it causes you some pain being an admitted Tiger Homer ! Good Luck in all your wagers except if you are wagering on Tiger to win a Major which it sounds like you're not !
 

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no sir i'm not on him this year.

JUST ABOUT everybody who follows golf if a tiger homer, even if they supposedly dont like him. They prob wouldnt even follow golf if it wasnt for him.

he has a better chance to win a major than any other single golfer in the field, otherwise that bet wouldnt be up
 
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he has a better chance to win a major than any other single golfer in the field, otherwise that bet wouldnt be up

That bet is up because people are idiots and think he can still play like he used to, which he obviously can't. There are at least 10 guys whom have a better chance to win a major this year than him.
 

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wow .this thread is still up? is there a golf sub-forum, so this thread isn't at the top of the offshore forum every f'ing time i login...?
 
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I like Redeye have bought the " Tiger to win no majors " prop at - 120. As a matter of fact I bought it for Redeye and myself right here in Las Vegas at the Venetian/Palazzo. Should Tiger be favored to win the Masters ? I say no ! Why ? Simple .... He's changed his swing again .... He's lost his putting stroke..... He's in a slump that has lasted quite some time now. People seem to forget but Tiger was winless in the Majors for quite some time even before his problems started with his wife. His last Major victory was the 2008 U S Open which was in June of 2008. That was almost 3 years ago ! Tiger is not the same golfer that won 4 straight Majors. He is certainly one of the greatest golfers ever but right now He isn't playing like one of the greatest ever. We shall soon see but I love my wager and I will tell anyone what my wager is before it happens. If I lose the wager... everyone can say " I told you so " ! That's why they call it gambling. I just try to make wagers where I feel the odds are in my favor.

Kermit knows I am a Tiger fan and there are very few posters whose opinons I respect more than Kermit's....-120 not to win a major is a good bet...
 

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wow .this thread is still up? is there a golf sub-forum, so this thread isn't at the top of the offshore forum every f'ing time i login...?

How difficult is it to just move past this thread ? It isn't ! I feel the same way about all of Dante's OT threads that have no bearing on sports. I just scroll right past them, pretty easy concept my man.
 

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How difficult is it to just move past this thread ? It isn't ! I feel the same way about all of Dante's OT threads that have no bearing on sports. I just scroll right past them, pretty easy concept my man.

I agree with ya red eye, hey we agreed on something, lol. Dnt click on it if you don't want to read it.

Red eye, my bad for calling u an idiot, u just got me fired up. That bet is a good bet, I mean if he doesn't win one of 4 tourn this year you win. I still think he wins one this year, just because I think the greatest golfer ever will get his shit together, but I'm not betting on it. He's finally getting some dirty leg, so maybe that will help his game, lol.

I wouldn't be surprised if he won the masters, but I doubt he does. I guarantee u will be sweating in at least two tourn tho
 

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I agree with ya red eye, hey we agreed on something, lol. Dnt click on it if you don't want to read it.

Red eye, my bad for calling u an idiot, u just got me fired up. That bet is a good bet, I mean if he doesn't win one of 4 tourn this year you win. I still think he wins one this year, just because I think the greatest golfer ever will get his shit together, but I'm not betting on it. He's finally getting some dirty leg, so maybe that will help his game, lol.

I wouldn't be surprised if he won the masters, but I doubt he does. I guarantee u will be sweating in at least two tourn tho
All good man, no problem. His best shot is the Masters, kinda glad its first up because he doesn't look close yet to me.
US open -Not only do you need a great game, you need some luck at the Open, because not alot of margin for error on Open courses. Even when Tiger was in his prime, it was tough for him to win the US Open, so not to concerned with him winning that one either. Off the top of my head not sure where British and PGA are at, but will still be a stiff challenge for anyone. I might hedge some if the odds are in my favor when e get to the last 2 majors.
 

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yea, i agree the u.s. open would be the toughest for him with the way he is playing right now. if i remember right they are playing the brittish open at royal st george, which i know nothing about but if its anything like st andrews, he has a chance there because tee shots are not at a premium. dont know where pga champ is this year...

it sounds stupid, but the harder the course is, i think the better the chance he has to win. if we see winning scores at par or above par, he will be in the mix just because he can save pars other players would settle for bogeys on.

like you said, if you survive the first two majors i think you can hedge (if the numbers are right) and guarantee a profit

golf needs tiger to play well this year, no doubt about that
 

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How difficult is it to just move past this thread ? It isn't ! I feel the same way about all of Dante's OT threads that have no bearing on sports. I just scroll right past them, pretty easy concept my man.

just throwing some humor - relax. glad it brought the two of you together.
 

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Tiger is hitting the ball better than he was last year coming into this tournament. So considering he finished in the top 5 last year, he does have a chance. But I agree with some of the posters above. The Masters is his best chance to get a win. I don't think he has much of a chance in the other majors. In the past Tiger has always been able to come back within a two year period whenever he's changed his swing. But the problem this time is he's had to come off a serious injury and surgery as well. Something that has ruined many PGA golfers careers. David Duval comes to mind first
 

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Tiger is hitting the ball better than he was last year coming into this tournament. So considering he finished in the top 5 last year, he does have a chance. But I agree with some of the posters above. The Masters is his best chance to get a win. I don't think he has much of a chance in the other majors. In the past Tiger has always been able to come back within a two year period whenever he's changed his swing. But the problem this time is he's had to come off a serious injury and surgery as well. Something that has ruined many PGA golfers careers. David Duval comes to mind first

He also just doesn't make the putts consistently anymore. Sometimes the swing and the putter just doesn't come back.
 

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