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hey man i don't disagree with you - people just forget that police have a tough time - and anyway you cut it that is because of blacks
 

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Oh I agree. I think the issues are institutional, not with the actual cops. They gotta arrest people for weed, give out tickets to raise revenue, deal with mental health issues that they have no training/expertise in.

But there are issues in the criminal justice system that need fixing which should be what everyones focus is on.

It's just most of them are "boring" issues like bails bonds, asset forfeiture, putting people in prison for drugs rather than rehabiliating them. So the BLM crowd doesn't bother with these and focuses on the narrative that cops are just running around blasting blacks like its a 1st person shooter video game.
 

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This is a trick question. No one gets pulled over for not using a turn signal. No one uses a turn signal these days. Back on topic. Your example should say young black man uses his turn signal and old white woman does not use her turn signal. Who gets pulled over? i live in the real world, i know who gets pulled over.

lol, didn't know. Becoming more like Europe? Drivers across the pond are wild.

when does GM , Chrysler , and Ford get rid of those tedious signals?
 

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hey man i don't disagree with you - people just forget that police have a tough time - and anyway you cut it that is because of blacks

At least you have no bones about being an overt racist at the Rx; most around here try to pretend they are not.
 

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There is plenty of data that tells us blacks get pulled over more often than whites but less contraband is being found on them when they get pulled over.

https://www.ago.mo.gov/docs/default...16vehiclesstops-executivesummary.pdf?sfvrsn=2

Interesting link. Here is the Cliff's Notes version for the attention span impaired:

"The same is not the case for several of the other groups. African-Americans represent 10.9% of the driving-age population but 18.0% of all traffic stops, for a disparity index value of 1.65. African-Americans were stopped at a rate 65% greater than expected based solely on their proportion of the driving-age population."

This study was for Missouri for 2016.
 

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Interesting link. Here is the Cliff's Notes version for the attention span impaired:

"The same is not the case for several of the other groups. African-Americans represent 10.9% of the driving-age population but 18.0% of all traffic stops, for a disparity index value of 1.65. African-Americans were stopped at a rate 65% greater than expected based solely on their proportion of the driving-age population."

This study was for Missouri for 2016.

Doesn't mean shit though. Maybe blacks on average are worse drivers. Maybe just like they commit violent crimes at a much higher rate than other races, maybe they commit driving violations at higher rate too. If you look at the data, it seems whites have a disparity near 1.0 suggesting against racism. If anything, looking at the data, maybe they need to target more Indians and Asians.
 

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Doesn't mean shit though. Maybe blacks on average are worse drivers. Maybe just like they commit violent crimes at a much higher rate than other races, maybe they commit driving violations at higher rate too. If you look at the data, it seems whites have a disparity near 1.0 suggesting against racism. If anything, looking at the data, maybe they need to target more Indians and Asians.

If they are significantly worse drivers that would be shown in accidents caused by drivers, but it isn't. The results for that are negligible.

Also, why would their cars get searched more based on them being worse drivers?

If you don't give a shit that there are inefficiencies in the criminal justice system, then just say that rather than coming up with some worthless rebuttal.
 

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At least you have no bones about being an overt racist at the Rx; most around here try to pretend they are not.

my comment was racist? the FBI says a police officer has an 18.5 times greater chance of being killed by a black male compared to a white - ur muddling racism with factual evidence
 

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If they are significantly worse drivers that would be shown in accidents caused by drivers, but it isn't. The results for that are negligible.

Also, why would their cars get searched more based on them being worse drivers?

If you don't give a shit that there are inefficiencies in the criminal justice system, then just say that rather than coming up with some worthless rebuttal.

Those inefficiencies you keep mentioning have more to do with class, not race.

Money often can and does buy not guilty verdicts.

Just ask OJ Simpson.
 

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Those inefficiencies you keep mentioning have more to do with class, not race.

Money often can and does buy not guilty verdicts.

Just ask OJ Simpson.

Most of it is just class and resources rather than race. Socioeconomic and race overlap and thus they look like racial issues when really it's just about the system favoring those who can navigate around it. And that tends to not be people of color.

That doesn't mean the problems don't exist though. And certainly framing them as racial issues rather than socioeconomic gets a lot more mileage to then feed whatever agendas people need. But I would say those that aren't on the side of criminal justice reforms are on the wrong side of history.
 

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Most of it is just class and resources rather than race. Socioeconomic and race overlap and thus they look like racial issues when really it's just about the system favoring those who can navigate around it. And that tends to not be people of color.

That doesn't mean the problems don't exist though. And certainly framing them as racial issues rather than socioeconomic gets a lot more mileage to then feed whatever agendas people need. But I would say those that aren't on the side of criminal justice reforms are on the wrong side of history.

Money buys you high-priced lawyers who know how to cast doubt in the minds of jurists and judges because their minds are intellectually superior to both.

As it stands, you have a system where rich black athletes rarely serve any time when they get into trouble, as opposed to poor trailer trash whites who commit the same offenses (domestic abuse etc.).

Is this "fair"? What is "fair"?

Like anything sold on the open market, you get what you pay for.
 

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If they are significantly worse drivers that would be shown in accidents caused by drivers, but it isn't. The results for that are negligible.

Also, why would their cars get searched more based on them being worse drivers?

If you don't give a shit that there are inefficiencies in the criminal justice system, then just say that rather than coming up with some worthless rebuttal.

You care to share some studies? Would be great if it was specific to Missouri as well since your other data is specific to there.
 

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You care to share some studies? Would be great if it was specific to Missouri as well since your other data is specific to there.

You want me to get studies that show you that blacks don't get into car accidents at a higher rate than whites in Missouri that are equal to the findings in the study?

You really think that is the cause for the disparity? Because the difference in ability to navigate the wheel causes blacks to get pulled over more?
 

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You want me to get studies that show you that blacks don't get into car accidents at a higher rate than whites in Missouri that are equal to the findings in the study?

You really think that is the cause for the disparity? Because the difference in ability to navigate the wheel causes blacks to get pulled over more?

You mentioned accidents caused by drivers broken down by race. I assume you were referring to specific studies. I would like to see them to enlighten myself and maybe change my viewpoint. Or maybe you just made it up in your head.
 

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You mentioned accidents caused by drivers broken down by race. I assume you were referring to specific studies. I would like to see them to enlighten myself and maybe change my viewpoint. Or maybe you just made it up in your head.

Change your viewpoint on what? That blacks get into car accidents at a higher rate than whites because they are significantly worse at driving?

Is that your viewpoint?

It's common knowledge there isn't disparity between blacks and whites as far as car accidents go. But you don't seem like much of a numbers guy to me anyway.
 

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Change your viewpoint on what? That blacks get into car accidents at a higher rate than whites because they are significantly worse at driving?

Is that your viewpoint?

It's common knowledge there isn't disparity between blacks and whites as far as car accidents go. But you don't seem like much of a numbers guy to me anyway.

Nice deflection.
 

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Change your viewpoint on what? That blacks get into car accidents at a higher rate than whites because they are significantly worse at driving?

Is that your viewpoint?

It's common knowledge there isn't disparity between blacks and whites as far as car accidents go. But you don't seem like much of a numbers guy to me anyway.

Oh, I see. It's "common knowledge". Really? Surely then you can cite a study. I would like to see the numbers.
 

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I'll tell you what, you responded to me and said the study doesn't mean anything because blacks could just be terrible drivers getting pulled over all the time.

Why don't you prove that incredible assertion true?

I think you're probably drawing dead to figure out how google works but fuck it, 1st time for everything.
 

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