Why is the Ace-Ace charade still allowed to go on?

[PublicsMoney]

Another stupid ass thread.....can we all move on already? This place is getting worse instead of better. All this bullshit is not worth a minute of my time. Grow the fuk up!

 

[fucnluc]

I could care less about this,my main problem with therx still has to do with the companies they choose to partner with, especially choosing to partner with books that have a criminal history just to make a buck. Horrible business ethics in my opinion.

Then don't post. It's as simple as that. People bitching about how the Rx is run just boycott. Nobody is forcing you to contribute, this forum is a service and a business to run and maintain and I love it even though I also disagree with certain aspects empathize from a business stand.

 

[TTinCO]

In the end, the offer to post all of their plays here prior to the start is open to all the touts. For obvious reasons, a lot of them have wanted no part of it.

Ace has complied.....what more do you want? The offer is still open.

 

[joeyfitzclick]

In the end, the offer to post all of their plays here prior to the start is open to all the touts. For obvious reasons, a lot of them have wanted no part of it.

Ace has complied.....what more do you want? The offer is still open.

How many times will this need to be explained. JC people move on.

 

[slapshot]

i dont mind him hanging around

i have learned a few things from Ace

but the chase is on last year he was down and went on a run and made it back but there are rules here

1) don't bash the Golden Boy :think2:

my son posted a reply in his thread before the Baltimore game telling him he was on the wrong side of this game and some reasons why but he used the word du**a** and Will edited the reply insted of just DA

 

[gtc08]

Then don't post. It's as simple as that. People bitching about how the Rx is run just boycott. Nobody is forcing you to contribute, this forum is a service and a business to run and maintain and I love it even though I also disagree with certain aspects empathize from a business stand.

Of course it's a business, I'm not disagreeing with that. My point is you should choose very carefully who you align yourself business wise. That is basic business 101.

 

[silver7]

All You Ace Sycophants Need To Read

McIrish. He`s telling you what any experienced capper/bettor knows, ie. Ace is abusing the cardinal rule of wagering. The key to ANY form whether it be sports, table, or anything else is money mgmt!!! Ace, by the way he`s playing does indeed remind one of K & fraudfather. Does Wil protect certain posters? Of course! I was not allowed to alert anyone when the fraud was @ his zenith. All you young & inexperienced players need to heed Mc`s words. Anyone w/a range from 200 to 4K on a wkend is either goofy or not betting real money. Ace is not the "answer" to all your wagering woes. He`s just another guy who happened to get hot and is now losing more than he EVER won using poor $$ techniques.

 

[ACE-ACE]

McIrish. He`s telling you what any experienced capper/bettor knows, ie. Ace is abusing the cardinal rule of wagering. The key to ANY form whether it be sports, table, or anything else is money mgmt!!! Ace, by the way he`s playing does indeed remind one of K & fraudfather. Does Wil protect certain posters? Of course! I was not allowed to alert anyone when the fraud was @ his zenith. All you young & inexperienced players need to heed Mc`s words. Anyone w/a range from 200 to 4K on a wkend is either goofy or not betting real money. Ace is not the "answer" to all your wagering woes. He`s just another guy who happened to get hot and is now losing more than he EVER won using poor $$ techniques.

I BET BETWEEN 1-4 UNITS (OTHER PLAYERS BET THE SAME WHY PICK ON ME)....MY WAY... AND WHEN I DO BET THAT $200 GAME ITS FOR ACTION (FUN).....THIS WORKS FOR ME AND THE ONLY REASON YOU ARE TALKING THIS STUFF IS BECAUSE IAM DOWN....


I TAKE CARE OF ME .....YOU TAKE CARE OF YOU......NEVER WOULD I GO INTO SOMEONE THREAD AND PUT THEM DOWN ....BUT THAT MAKES YOU YOU AND ME ME

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[gynecologist]

I think it's bullshit that people are kicking ACE while he is down.. At least ACE is trying, if he is mentioning his positive records in other sports and previous years whats so bad about that??? C'mon why not let him bring up the positive in what has been a negative last few weeks.. ACE doesn't deserved to be treated like a scumbag cause he is far from it..

He is not like Kodiak or those other slime buckets who twist shit around and just flat out lie. He is here everyday answering questions trying to help..

Let's stop kicking the guy while he is down, we all have different styles and everything is not according to Hoyle..

 

[FairWarning]

Good post Gyno. Seen this happen just last summer with Bucsfan across the street and his baseball picks. People would bitch if the money they won were all paid in big bills I guess.

 

[PatrickMcIrish]

I don't know if you guys are referring to me but I'm not bashing anyone, just giving out my opinion. In fact I think Ace gets bashed too much, most of the time unfairly and without merit, perhaps not in this case though. Either way I am going to post about what I think because the purpose of the board is built around hearing opinions, not smother them because you disagree. I try to keep it from being a direct attack but unfortunately no matter how you put it, if you disagree others can often get very sensitive about it.

Ace has always claimed he was just the tool, all he did was provide information to help others make their own decisions. And he does that, I think he has helped beyond just picking winners. His experience in the business has helped others, the Hilton stuff, strategies and so on that has been discussed often has proven it in my mind. That is what makes this current state of affairs so bad, you are down but big deal? Show them the same professional attitude you have shown when you were winning. Show them what they should do when they get hooked, let the education continue. To bet $200 on some plays (just for fun?) and then bet 20X's bigger than that later in this season when you are down is chasing. Ace knows it, I know it, and just about everyone else in this forum knows it.

I just think he is underestimating himself. He does more than just pick winners, and anyone bashing him this year for not being able to do that is out of line IMO. However opinions on the way he is now betting and how the units are being used is not the same thing. He's losing, big deal, not like he will be relegated to the RR for it. Show the people what a pro does when he is down and when the winners start coming back you will win support and have earned respect for not doing exactly what all the other high profile names of the past have done once they run into a bad streak. I still think the man can cap, I really do, I just am not so sure all that money management stuff that is talked about is anything he really subscribes to. Either way good luck tomorrow Ace and others, let's make some cheese.

 

[X-Files]

To bet $200 on some plays (just for fun?) and then bet 20X's bigger than that later in this season when you are down is chasing. Ace knows it, I know it, and just about everyone else in this forum knows it.

ACE has repeatedly stated for years that his wagers of 1000 & less
are merely action plays.

The ones people should be focusing on are what he has called his
"investment" wagers, those of 2000+.

To make a $4000 wager is not chasing. It's merely double the
minimum amount of any investment wager.

 

[HarryCaray]

Just wanted to poke my head in to say how saddened I am that Ace is getting ripped on. Keep at it buddy, the worm will turn for ya. You have always been a class act and I have learned alot from you.

 

[CHOPTALK]

I think it's bullshit that people are kicking ACE while he is down.. At least ACE is trying, if he is mentioning his positive records in other sports and previous years whats so bad about that??? C'mon why not let him bring up the positive in what has been a negative last few weeks.. ACE doesn't deserved to be treated like a scumbag cause he is far from it..

He is not like Kodiak or those other slime buckets who twist shit around and just flat out lie. He is here everyday answering questions trying to help..

Let's stop kicking the guy while he is down, we all have different styles and everything is not according to Hoyle..

You kicked me when I was down. Whats the difference?

I know I will never hear your reasoning, because you have none.

 

[gynecologist]

You kicked me when I was down. Whats the difference?

I know I will never hear your reasoning, because you have none.

This thread is about ACE not you..

 

[Journeyman]

This thread has ran its course, sending it to the RR...if others want to fight in it go ahead down there.

 

[Arodd]

This thread is about ACE not you..

snap duke this motherfucker out

 

[Antonioli]

I think many of us are overlooking the obvious advantages of a consistently bad capper(not to say AA is)................FADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[Antonioli]

I might as well chime in too. For me I don't think the RX has done anything wrong nor is doing anything wrong, in fact Wil does a great job in my opinion of limiting these touts to their proper areas. They have their own area but all situations are not the same. The way this came down it made sense the way they handled it, who cares if they are paying a guy that is and has been one of the more popular posters this site has ever had, we should appreciate that. In fact if the RX hadn't kept him we would never hear the end of it. My personal disappointment is with what Ace is doing now that he's losing, he was a lot easier to take before he became an official tout and was so hard pressed to show a profit. It's not the losing most folks are so upset with, we've all done that, it's the tout-like comments of how much he is winning in other sports and the other chest beating. I've also noticed others with very few posts are often coming in and doing a little shilling for him now as well. That is minor though, more importantly the CHASING is what's really looking bad IMO!! There is no other words for it, he's playing the same game that Rodfather and Kodiak used to play in these forums. Keep on pressing up the $$ in hopes he finally gets hot so he can show us all how much he "won" again this year.

I looked at the first 7 weeks as I was curious, in not one of those weeks was he even betting half of what he is betting now. In week #3 for instance he had a total of $4300 in play, this week just one of his play is for $4000 all by itself. We went from a weekly huge play that was $2000, when he got down it went to $2500, just recently it rose to $3000, and now of course it up's to $4000. We skipped the $3500 platform entirely. When you have a spread from betting $200 a game to $4000 a game than that is ridiculous! Yes I know the RX can't tell the man how to bet, but that does not change the fact it's still terrible that he is showing all these guys almost the exact opposite of what they should be seeing. When you are getting hammered and apparently mired in a bad streak where you just can't win, you do not keep increasing the amounts in hopes you finally win, be smart and live to fight another day, things will change. Most people know that, unfortunately those are not the newer folks that are mostly reading his threads. If you lose you lose, I don't blame him for that, I just wish this guy would set a smart example of how you lose and NOT chase!! Make this horrible season a positive thing, a guy with this kind of popularity losing like this yet still keeping consistant would have been great example for others to follow....

The RX has Fish, Jman and lot of others that through their experience pass on a helluva lot of good information to the gamblers, they represent the RX in a positive manner. To see this guy being the most popular of them all and just blatantly chasing his loses, boasting about his "wins" from either other years or other sports, and moonlighting as a tout is a damn shame IMO. Don't get me wrong, I got nothing against Ace, everyone I know that has met him thinks highly of him. I have even seen the selfless way he has assisted many others in the past, I just think he's so caught up (like most touts are) in desperately showing a profit that he is doing as much harm now as he did good in the past. Not only doing this is showing others what not to do, if not careful it could detract from his other wins, players might question if he is doing this now was he doing the same back then as he claims he wins 11 of 13 years or whatever it was? If he really is "an ex-bookie that is interested in helping players win" than he could be using his leverage in other areas right now. Helping others goes beyond throwing up picks, help them manage their money and be smart through your own actions rather than just verbalizing it every week. Either way no beefs Mr Eastman, just keep in mind you have a lot of influence and act accordingly. Everyone knows how to win, show everyone you know how to lose as well. Good luck pal.

Great post! ACE has shown the kind of discipline bookie loves. i cant stand FH most of the time but at least he has shown some class whenever he loses.

 

[Antonioli]

If The Rx. paid Ace Ace then moderators like Fishhead, Sportsavant, Robfunk, Journeyman, Xpanda and myself would only be allowed to post their selections in the Site Promotions forums according to your way of thinking.


wil.

nonsense