Why does everyone here automatically dismiss the idea of going Vegan?

[barman]

Plants decompose too you stupid fuck.

heh

As do humans.

All organisms are in a constant state of decay and recycled energy.

The chemical makeup of most body parts turns over 100% between every 90-400 days.

Every organism on the planet is part of the eternal "food chain", including humans when our own body waste of all kinds passes from direct contact with our bodies and enters the "outside" ecosystem

 

[barman]

"Animal suffering" is by and large non-existent, especially as one comes to understand the true nature of the condition. Suffering is founded in a lack of acceptance with the Here and Now.

As animals are incapable of thinking outside of Now, it is reasonable to presume they do not suffer in any way remotely akin to humans, who of course commonly think outside Now.

Like all life energy, the consciousness that inhabits a non-human form immediately reincarnates upon it's "death", so in truth, no true harm can be done to any animal.

Fear not for the "suffering animal". They are closer to God than most any of us and like all of us will continue to exist, albeit in new and more highly evolved physical forms. For them, as well as for all us humans, "death" is not a tragedy. It is simply just another moment in the eternal dance.

 

[Shub]

Who is the larger consumer of wheat and other grains?

Ask him again maybe he will answer lol

 

[Shub]

"Animal suffering" is by and large non-existent, especially as one comes to understand the true nature of the condition. Suffering is founded in a lack of acceptance with the Here and Now.

As animals are incapable of thinking outside of Now, it is reasonable to presume they do not suffer in any way remotely akin to humans, who of course commonly think outside Now.

Like all life energy, the consciousness that inhabits a non-human form immediately reincarnates upon it's "death", so in truth, no true harm can be done to any animal.

Fear not for the "suffering animal". They are closer to God than most any of us and like all of us will continue to exist, albeit in new and more highly evolved physical forms. For them, as well as for all us humans, "death" is not a tragedy. It is simply just another moment in the eternal dance.

I usually agree with most of your posts. that right there is some straight bullshit.

 

[barman]

I usually agree with most of your posts. that right there is some straight bullshit.

I thought this was a forum where people help each other. Just posting facts, not opinions

 

[Salsantorre]

"Animal suffering" is by and large non-existent, especially as one comes to understand the true nature of the condition. Suffering is founded in a lack of acceptance with the Here and Now.

As animals are incapable of thinking outside of Now, it is reasonable to presume they do not suffer in any way remotely akin to humans, who of course commonly think outside Now.

Like all life energy, the consciousness that inhabits a non-human form immediately reincarnates upon it's "death", so in truth, no true harm can be done to any animal.

Fear not for the "suffering animal". They are closer to God than most any of us and like all of us will continue to exist, albeit in new and more highly evolved physical forms. For them, as well as for all us humans, "death" is not a tragedy. It is simply just another moment in the eternal dance.

Trying to understand your reasoning here. I think anything with a central nervous system suffers or will suffer during it's life time as far as physical pain is concerned. It is difficult to grasp the concept of animals not suffering as you say. Surely we can tell when animals or humans are in distress. Please expound how it is "reasonable to presume" that animals don't suffer because of their lack of acceptance of the "here and now".

 

[hehateme82]

Found a new grass fed hormone free farm around the northern Baltimore area. I grilled these strips to perfection last night. Medium rare with a duck bacon onion topper and delicious red blend per usual. Grill dome + good steaks + good wine = $$$$

 

[Willie99]

Found a new grass fed hormone free farm around the northern Baltimore area. I grilled these strips to perfection last night. Medium rare with a duck bacon onion topper and delicious red blend per usual. Grill dome + good steaks + good wine = $$$$

grass fed, don't you get vegan points for that?

 

[hehateme82]

grass fed, don't you get vegan points for that?

It helps prevent ass cancer maybe? No idea, but it tastes better. Crushing an 8 hour brisket tomorrow for opening day. Go O's and Zags!

 

[rolltide]

grass fed, don't you get vegan points for that?

no

 

[rolltide]

"Animal suffering" is by and large non-existent, especially as one comes to understand the true nature of the condition. Suffering is founded in a lack of acceptance with the Here and Now.

As animals are incapable of thinking outside of Now, it is reasonable to presume they do not suffer in any way remotely akin to humans, who of course commonly think outside Now.

Like all life energy, the consciousness that inhabits a non-human form immediately reincarnates upon it's "death", so in truth, no true harm can be done to any animal.

Fear not for the "suffering animal". They are closer to God than most any of us and like all of us will continue to exist, albeit in new and more highly evolved physical forms. For them, as well as for all us humans, "death" is not a tragedy. It is simply just another moment in the eternal dance.

this made sense only after I looked at the time of your post

 

[cloverleaf]

I eat a New York Strip Steak at a minimum of 3 times a week, hell most weeks 4 times. My mother lived to be 90 years old, her dad live to be 88 and they ate meat, maybe not NY steak like me, but meat they raised on their farm. One of my mother's brothers died recently, he was 89.

Good lord the PS Bullshit going on today.

 

[Shub]

I eat a New York Strip Steak at a minimum of 3 times a week, hell most weeks 4 times. My mother lived to be 90 years old, her dad live to be 88 and they ate meat, maybe not NY steak like me, but meat they raised on their farm. One of my mother's brothers died recently, he was 89.

Good lord the PS Bullshit going on today.

Thats a hell of a sample size right there lol. Most of the meat they ate was straight from the butcher at that.

 

[Shub]

this made sense only after I looked at the time of your post

Tide, do you think a vegan diet kills more animals than a non-vegan diet?

 

[rolltide]

Tide, do you think a vegan diet kills more animals than a non-vegan diet?

well i purposely stayed away from that one. it was just a badly failed troll effort


of course NOT killing an animal to eat is less harmful to that animal than killing it.


that being said people will search for whatever theory necessary to feel their right without using common sense

 

[rolltide]

I eat a New York Strip Steak at a minimum of 3 times a week, hell most weeks 4 times. My mother lived to be 90 years old, her dad live to be 88 and they ate meat, maybe not NY steak like me, but meat they raised on their farm. One of my mother's brothers died recently, he was 89.

Good lord the PS Bullshit going on today.

I think you meant "PC" and being a vegan or vegetarian has nothing to do with politics. If anything it would be far more politically correct to support the meat industry which directly supports pharmaceutical and chemical industries who are among the largest donors to politicians. So, consider yourself a stronger supporter of the American economy and much more PC (or, PS as you believe) than someone who isn't eating meat

 

[SgtLanquel]

this made sense only after I looked at the time of your post

heh.....I've no inclination to heavily promote the message but it is certainly well understood among most Eastern and Native American philosophies where the understanding of eternal life energy is known.

Animal "suffering" is for the most part suffering of those humans who observe an animal in pain.

We definitely acknowledge the beast can most certainly feel pain and as such it is quite sensible for kind-hearted humans to consider that in their interactions with beasts for whatever reason.

 

[rolltide]

quick statement...

i usually hit up twitter and type in "vegan" to find some interesting new dishes around Pittsburgh to check out once/week or every other week. The new generation (20 something) of folks not eating meat are among the most pretentious whiny cvnts I have come across. Their superiority complex is overwhelming and half of them go about it completely the wrong way, ingesting a ton of chemical-filled additives to taste like meat while declaring how "food conscious" and "food aware" they are. Anyone who uses those terms to describe themselves should look into suicide

for those that don't know there is not a single wheat gluten, bean, or potato-based concoction in the world that will taste like a beef burger...well, apparently until now with the invention of The Impossible Burger. Never had one but some chemist found a protein in plants that supposedly tastes like animal blood...it is called Heme. Well if you have some great inner desire to eat bacon or burgers then just eat the fn bacon and burgers!

 

[rolltide]

perfect example of an idiot vegan that should just eject over the side of the next bridge she crosses .... http://www.thecomfortingvegan.com/2017/03/vegan-pierogi-casserole_62.html

she goes out and buys the grossest shit on the planet.....we're talking garbage packaged frozen pierogies, fakin bacon, fake sour cream, fake cream cheese, fake parmesan, fake mayo, and vegan milk (whatever the fuck that is? i put a little soy milk in my coffee if that's what the moron means?).

Then she stirs it all in a bowl and bakes it and believes she's done something great for herself by mixing up a few pounds of chemicals created to taste like the much healthier meat and dairy option. I'd rather bite into the side of a live pig than eat the junk she's mixing into a bowl and blogging the world about...

fn moron

 

[rolltide]

heh.....I've no inclination to heavily promote the message but it is certainly well understood among most Eastern and Native American philosophies where the understanding of eternal life energy is known.

Animal "suffering" is for the most part suffering of those humans who observe an animal in pain.

We definitely acknowledge the beast can most certainly feel pain and as such it is quite sensible for kind-hearted humans to consider that in their interactions with beasts for whatever reason.

thanks bar. nice to see you off the peyote


don't really know why you keep separating pain from suffering but i guess it has to do with those keen little quotation marks you're putting around "suffering". and, btw, the idea that animals don't suffer or feel pain was Descartes not some mystical Indian shit. Indians had a tremendous appreciation for animals and tried to connect with the spirits of the animals they killed for food. But i guess it sounds more deeply rooted than having it simply fabricated by a French philosopher