Why do people think big businesses are evil

[Vision]

your avatar fits this statement well :grandmais

when government gets involved is when the big business is allowed to do all the bad stuff the free market place tends to work itself out

if some business is messing around with another business or individual they deal with it via the courts

I've been a Ron Paul fan, but all this free-market liberalism bullshit is insane. The answer to all problems is not unrestricted survival of the fittest capitalism. Regulation of industry is necessary. Moral codes should be defined by responsible leaders, not hungry, ruthless capitalists.

capitalism isn't perfect but its been shown by history to be the best system.....

How so?

 

[tiznow]

we started as a loosest regulated capitalism system the world has ever seen and became the most prosperous nation the world has ever seen

we going down the tubes like many of the past like rome, russia, china, etc....due to socialism/communism/fascism blend

property rights a big deal and a reason unfestered capitalism is tough to have right now...since property rights have gone through the gutter...and also due to all the government sponsporship of corporations......

i'm not saying we can go to ron paul type stuff overnight

but we continue to head in the wrong direction away from what he wants....

 

[GoSooners]

we started as a loosest regulated capitalism system the world has ever seen and became the most prosperous nation the world has ever seen

we going down the tubes like many of the past like rome, russia, china, etc....due to socialism/communism/fascism blend

You don't think dictatorships had anything to do with these countries demise?

 

[Vision]

we started as a very loosest regulated capitalism system the world has ever seen and became the most prosperous nation the world has ever seen

we going down the tubes like many of the past like rome, russia, china, etc....due to socialism/communism/fascism blend

We became the most prosperous nation because we built an empire from world wars, have virtually unlimited resources/living space, and have many motivated, intelligent citizens. Economics of three centuries ago don't apply today. We're going down the "tubes" because of moral degeneration--not economics.

 

[tiznow]

You don't think dictatorships had anything to do with these countries demise?

patriot act, iraq war, homeland security....we getting there

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power."

the big problem with companies today is they are in bed with government...the regulation shit is just a distraction telling you they are doing something in reality they aren't helping you one bit

the free markets and individuals being on a equal playing field have been hijacked one small step at a time over the course of time since we became a new nation

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the empire has nothing to do with it vision

the republic we once were is why we got to where we are....

the empire is why were are doomed longer term....

empires all collapse that's history....

 

[GoSooners]

patriot act, iraq war, homeland security....we getting there

All coming from a Republican administration....I'm betting we would have never seen any of these things if we had elected Al Gore...

 

[Vision]

the empire has nothing to do with it vision

lol

 

[Vision]

All coming from a Republican administration....I'm betting we would have never seen any of these things if we had elected Al Gore...

LOL

 

[Vision]

This free-market, perfect society, prosperity for everyone--liberalism--is just this utopian idea like the socialism you complain about. Unattainable, too idealistic.

 

[gtc08]

tizzie, those were totalitarian governments. those arnt the socialists countries you see thriving now with a healthy currency, productive and happy citizens.

 

[GoSooners]

I think this country has too many checks and balances for it to go too far in one direction..If there is going to be a downfall to this country, it's going to be spreading itself too thin with it's war machine and trying to police every corner of the World....Meanwhile the Fed keeps printing up money for it or we borrow from China..The taxes eventually come due and when the poor finds out they have to pay their last dollar to the state, there's an uprising..Much like what happened to Rome. You can't conquer or be a babysitter to the world without hurting your own country. The hawkish repubs still haven't figured this out...They still think we need to display our military might to the world every 10 years or so to prove who's still the boss....Silly

 

[tiznow]

i'm talking federal government vision

socialism is already in place at the state level....we don't need another layer of it......

states know better how to more efficiently handle the socialism at the state level.....federal bueracrats in the pockets of corporations obviously aren't gonna be looking out for our best interests......

and yes even the messiah obama is one of them.....he just talks the good talk....like an FDR

obviously you need some balance.....

i'm an anarchist....not in the crazy way most people associate with anarchy.....but obviously not gonna work on a large scale such as us

tiny island with a few select people could work just great....

 

[roadreeler57]

Heres a big Co try one http://jeep.com

 

[Vision]

i'm talking federal government vision

socialism is already in place at the state level....we don't need another layer of it......

states know better how to more efficiently handle the socialism at the state level.....federal bueracrats in the pockets of corporations obviously aren't gonna be looking out for our best interests......

and yes even the messiah obama is one of them.....he just talks the good talk....like an FDR

obviously you need some balance.....

i'm an anarchist....not in the crazy way most people associate with anarchy.....but obviously not gonna work on a large scale such as us

tiny island with a few select people could work just great....

Can't agree with you more. The power of the federal government should be curbed and power should be restored to the states.

 

[Vision]

And yes, anarchy would probably work great in places like greenland or antartica (sparcely populated regions without any major disagreements or conflicts, also no social structures/culture).

 

[tiznow]

tizzie, those were totalitarian governments. those arnt the socialists countries you see thriving now with a healthy currency, productive and happy citizens.

just give it time they will go down with us too

almost every country worldwide has a housing bubble

the gloom and doom coming is a worldwide event not a US event.....

here's some news tonight outta happy socialistic euro land

Europe
Bloomberg Financial News

Barclays Plc, the U.K.'s third- biggest bank, said first-half profit fell 34 percent as securities trading declined and credit writedowns increased.

Deutsche Telekom Profit Unexpectedly Drops 35% on Strong Euro, Debt Costs.

Axa SA, Europe's second-biggest insurer, said first-half profit declined 32 percent

Allianz SE, Europe's biggest insurer, abandoned its earnings growth forecast after losses at Dresdner Bank led to a 29 percent drop in second-quarter profit.

Nestle Profit Rises at Slowest Pace in Four Years.

Trichet Confronts 'Extremely Dangerous' Inflation in Lufthansa Wage Rises.

 

[guitarjosh]

Maybe its big Companies that put their names on athletic stadiums. Enron, Ameriquest and soon American airlines. I name the latter because they keep laying off workers and dropping routes but the management is untouchable.

And the reason they're untouchable is because they keep getting corporate welfare. Management for these companies can't run a thing, and the only reason they stay in business is handouts.

 

[eek.]

Transport is a funny thing.

It get subsidies for rail and air travel kinda thing, but transport keeps the wheels of commerce turning.

Companies get staff turning up for work on time, make profits, pay taxes and some of those taxes get ploughed back into the "loss making" public transport system.

 

[Romanowski]

We became the most prosperous nation because we built an empire from world wars, have virtually unlimited resources/living space, and have many motivated, intelligent citizens. Economics of three centuries ago don't apply today. We're going down the "tubes" because of moral degeneration--not economics.

True, but the moral degeneration led to the people demanding entitlement programs.

It's a who preceded whom; the egg or the chicken question.

 

[Romanowski]

as for Unions...they may have served a purpose in the past but today they are detrimental to the country, business, and THE WORKER.