Why Aren't We Pointing Any Fingers At The Medical Field?!? ?

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Chi, gotcha. I misread ur post and thought u were saying thousands would close specifically because of corona.
 

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but again this is the most pressing issue right now

our most precious soldiers at by far the most at risk in the coming months.

you can raise the #'s in that army, that quickly. and surely not in any quality

The Association of American Medical Colleges has released dire projections for the state of healthcare in America in the coming years. The projections say “the U.S. will see a shortage of 46,900 to 121,900 physicians by 2032 in primary and specialty care.”

2016 United States Physicians

953,695

Under 30- 16,519 1.9%
30-39 -184,120 21.7%
40-49 -214,595 25.2%
50-59 -215,541 22.5%
60-69 -138,815 16.3%
70+ -75,627 8.9%
 

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I could use dozens of analogies.

A ship called the Titanic with thousands of passengers, yet only enough lifeboats to save 1/3 of them.

A hospital who knew one day something bad would happen, and even practices for such events, has 20 ppl dying, and only 5 fucking ventilators to save that many.

Same analogy - idiots running the show

You guys are letting them off the hook too easily.


What if the Titantic had triple or quadruple the lifeboats and sank due to the extra weight killing everyone on board? See there's always a worse scenario. I'd rather have a hospital that is open and saving 1000 patients than going bankrupt and saving 0.

Speaking of letting someone off the hook... what % of the blame do you place on the Orange leader?
 

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What if the Titantic had triple or quadruple the lifeboats and sank due to the extra weight killing everyone on board? See there's always a worse scenario. I'd rather have a hospital that is open and saving 1000 patients than going bankrupt and saving 0.

Speaking of letting someone off the hook... what % of the blame do you place on the Orange leader?




A hospital goes out of business here & there and some of you guys think they all are going under.

Those SOB's aren't hurting for money because first of all most of them won't even accept patients these days without insurance and/or money up front, and secondly the insurance companies are raking it in off of us to pay them.

AdventHealth in Florida is buying everything.

Other hospitals, medical facilities, YMCA's....EVERYTHING

And I'm sure every other state has a similar giant in the field.

As for Trump obviously I don't blame anything on him.

Blame China and whatever color you would consider them.
 

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Once this crisis is over, I will definitely be purchasing a ventilator.

Absolutely no way people can count on any government when shit hits the fan.
 

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Once this crisis is over, I will definitely be purchasing a ventilator.

Absolutely no way people can count on any government when shit hits the fan.


lol
 

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damn, actually, its a pretty good idea. China can make anything on the cheap. 'at-home ventilators be prepared for the next pandemic' .

cmon, i can a see a load of the fearful buying these. Gotta act fast tho, while hysteria is high.........can it get throuhg the FDA? :think2: has to be branded as a non-medical device

these fuckers might go like candy,.

i can see it now;

neighbor - hey, what that hell is that? looks cool

Joe- a ventilator , no virus is killing me , fuck govt........, im ready



never underestimate your fellow man
 

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Oh.




Partly, that’s because the White House is a ghost town of scientific expertise. A pandemic-preparedness office that was part of the National Security Council was dissolved in 2018. On January 28, Luciana Borio, who was part of that team, urged the government to “act now to prevent an American epidemic,” and specifically to work with the private sector to develop fast, easy diagnostic tests. But with the office shuttered, those warnings were published in The Wall Street Journal, rather than spoken into the president’s ear. Instead of springing into action, America sat idle.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/03/how-will-coronavirus-end/608719/




Political fact check needs to fact check themselves, eh? LMFAO. Keep being an ignorant idiot

And as I've explained have a dozen times already but you're too dumb to listen.

Agencies in the Federal government routinely dissolve. The people are then moved under other branches and the agency is reorganized. Happens in business every single day. It doesn't mean the responsibilities of the original agency went away. They were just absolved under the other agencies.

This literally happens every single day in the Federal Government.
 

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damn, actually, its a pretty good idea. China can make anything on the cheap. 'at-home ventilators be prepared for the next pandemic' .

cmon, i can a see a load of the fearful buying these. Gotta act fast tho, while hysteria is high.........can it get throuhg the FDA? :think2: has to be branded as a non-medical device

these fuckers might go like candy,.

i can see it now;

neighbor - hey, what that hell is that? looks cool

Joe- a ventilator , no virus is killing me , fuck govt........, im ready



never underestimate your fellow man

might want to get to work on learning how to intubate your loved ones or yourself

:):)
 

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I could use dozens of analogies.

A ship called the Titanic with thousands of passengers, yet only enough lifeboats to save 1/3 of them.

A hospital who knew one day something bad would happen, and even practices for such events, has 20 ppl dying, and only 5 fucking ventilators to save that many.

Same analogy - idiots running the show

You guys are letting them off the hook too easily.

Sounds like you have a bright future owning and operating a mainstream hospital in a high population area.

Stock it up with *everything* that might be needed and store several years of extra everything and watch the investors flock to buy into your venture!
 

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I guess its actually a closer crisis then a thought

https://www.latimes.com/world-natio...onavirus-hospitals-call-for-emergency-funding


Cash-strapped rural hospitals face ‘imminent closure’ as coronavirus bears down

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Emergency rooms have been eerily quiet. Many operating rooms went dark last week after the governors of Washington and Oregon halted most elective surgeries to conserve precious masks, gowns and other protective equipment.
But instead of enabling them to prepare for an expected surge in COVID-19 patients, the hospitals say, the lull threatens to bankrupt them.
In Washington, at least 13 rural hospitals have less than 45 days of cash on hand and five of them face imminent closure, according to Cassie Sauer, chief executive of the Washington State Hospital Assn.
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“We expect certain hospitals to close if funding is not provided,” the letter said.
Cash shortages have also prevented the hospitals from stocking up on the badly needed protective equipment, which is expensive and difficult to find even for better-financed urban hospitals.
The non-urgent procedures that the governors canceled pay the bills for many facilities, which often have fewer than two dozen beds. Some hospitals are now planning layoffs.


Rural hospitals across the United States were in trouble long before the coronavirus, partly because people in the countryside tend to be sicker, older and poorer than Americans as a whole — hence more expensive to treat. Nearly 100 have closed since 2010, victims of rural flight, workforce shortages and government payments that reimburse less than private insurers.
Now many rural hospitals appear woefully unprepared to deal with a pandemic that few parts of the United States are expected to escape.
“You’re very quickly starting to see rural counties light up on the map, and it’s probably a misconception that rural America is going to be spared,” said Alan Morgan, CEO of the National Rural Health Assn., in Washington, D.C.
The virus was first detected in the United States on Jan. 20,when a 35-year-old man tested positive in Everett, Wash., after returning from Wuhan, China.
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Sounds like you have a bright future owning and operating a mainstream hospital in a high population area.

Stock it up with *everything* that might be needed and store several years of extra everything and watch the investors flock to buy into your venture!

:):)

its no doubt a very thought out and researched position steeped in years of experience and learning
 

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Hey stupid, the Wuhan virus came from CHINA, not a Trump rally.

Stop watching Rachel "Russia! Russia! Russia!" Madcow!


The 1918 pandemic had an unknown origin, yet still ended being called the Spanish flu. Most of us came out of our mothers vagina, but are called by different names. The coronavirus or Covid19 are the most widely accepted terms. The only reason people call it the Chinese virus or the Trump virus is because they care more about politicizing things and annoying people they disagree with than anything else.
 

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The 1918 pandemic had an unknown origin, yet still ended being called the Spanish flu. Most of us came out of our mothers vagina, but are called by different names. The coronavirus or Covid19 are the most widely accepted terms. The only reason people call it the Chinese virus or the Trump virus is because they care more about politicizing things and annoying people they disagree with than anything else.
This x 100
 
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The 1918 pandemic had an unknown origin, yet still ended being called the Spanish flu. Most of us came out of our mothers vagina, but are called by different names. The coronavirus or Covid19 are the most widely accepted terms. The only reason people call it the Chinese virus or the Trump virus is because they care more about politicizing things and annoying people they disagree with than anything else.



Get em bro. Fact



In my defense, I have never used those terms here or ever. Shit was whack. Only the political whackos doing that. Tried telling people I didn’t come here for politics.
 

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