Who was the most overrated Superstar ?

[wilheim]

The actual point of the thread is not who is the all time best superstar but who was the most overated. In his day Otto Graham was never overated. Fans from his era knew he was an excellent player and he got his fair amount of respect from both fans and players alike because of it. Know as Automatic Otto played for a single coach his entire career (Paul Brown) and managed to operate a very efficient offense playing for Brown for 9 years (4 in the old AAFC).

As an NFL head coach, two years with the Redskins, he was a failure, but that had nothing to do with his atheletic ability..



wil.

 

[AlwayzRight]

Jeter

 

[celticGreen+]

Think so far VC is the winner.

Michelle Wie maybe? Not sure if she's really rated highly, but I sure have to hear about her quite a bit.

Andy Roddick (maybe not now, but a few years ago he was WAY over-hyped).

Tim Sylvia? Took advantage of a relatively weak HW division during his reign at UFC.

 

[mamatried]

Dan Fouts (sorry Wil), followed by Herschel Walker.

And for Joe Falls (probably the most overrated columnist, btw), Reggie Jackson was NOT overrated.

 

[mamatried]

Dan Fouts (sorry Wil), followed by Herschel Walker.



Scratch that.

It's Dr. J, hands down.

 

[wilheim]

Dan Fouts' career stands on it's own, certainly doesn't need my help.

NFL Hall of Fame.

Class of 1993
Quarterback 6-3, 204
(Oregon)
1973-1987 San Diego Chargers

Daniel Francis Fouts. . .Third-round draft pick, 1973. . . Played major role in transforming Chargers from also-ran to three-time AFC West champions. . .Third player ever to pass for more than 40,000 yards. . .Career stats: 43,040 yards, 254 touchdowns passing; 476 yards, 13 TDs rushing. . .Six-time Pro Bowler, three-time All-Pro. . .NFL Most Valuable Player, 1982. . . AFC Player of Year, 1979, 1982. . . Born June 10, 1951, in San Francisco, California.

Career Information
Year(s): 1973–1987
NFL Draft: 1973 / Round: 3 / Pick: 84
College: Oregon
Professional Teams
San Diego Chargers (1973-1987)

Career Stats
TD-INT 254-242
Yards 43,040
QB Rating 80.2 (in comparison arch rival John Elway who retired at 79.9)
Stats at NFL.com
Career Highlights and Awards
6x Pro Bowl selection (1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1985)
NFL 1980s All-Decade Team
1982 NEA NFL MVP
2x PFWA NFL MVP (1979, 1982)
1982 NFL Offensive Player of the Year
2x UPI AFL-AFC Player of the Year (1979, 1982)
1979 Pro Bowl MVP
San Diego Chargers #14 retired
San Diego Chargers Records
254 passing TD's
43,040 passing yards

Fouts finished his 15 NFL seasons with 3,297 of 5,604 completions for 43,040 yards and 254 touchdowns, with 242 interceptions. He also rushed for 476 yards and 13 touchdowns.

Dan Fouts is one of only seven quarterbacks in NFL history who have achieved two consecutive (back-to-back) 30-touchdown passing seasons. The others are Steve Bartkowski, Brett Favre, Dan Marino, Jeff Garcia, Peyton Manning, and Y.A. Tittle. He was also the third quarterback in NFL history to pass for 40,000 yards, after fellow Hall of Famers Johnny Unitas and Fran Tarkenton, and the first quarterback ever to throw for over 4,000 yards in back-to-back seasons.

Fouts' jersey number, 14, is one of only two numbers retired by the San Diego Chargers.

In 1999, he was ranked number 92 on The Sporting News' list of the 100 Greatest Football Players.

In 1992, he was inducted into the University of Oregon and State of Oregon Sports Halls of Fame.


wil.

 

[GoSooners]

Mike Tyson...He was a one hit wonder...Great puncher, terrible boxer..If he couldn't knock a fighter out by the third round you knew he was going to lose..He also fought some of the weakest heavyweights in the history of boxing..Along with a few light heavyweights and welterweights who didn't even belong in the same ring with him. Can you say Michael Spinks?

 

[paftraft]

I think Eddie Murray getting to the Hall of Fame overrated him. I'm not sure but I think he only hit over .315 one season and I doubt he hit 35 HR's in a season ever. I don't think he ever had over 125 RBI's in a season.
He was a compiler as he played over 20 yrs.

 

[VIEJODINOSAUR]

Dan Fouts (sorry Wil), followed by Herschel Walker.



Scratch that.

It's Dr. J, hands down.

If you ever seen Dr. J in the ABA before he joined the Sixers, you wouldn't say overrated....

 

[Ladeda]

Canseco, McGuire, Bonds...take steroids out of the equation and what do you got?

Yeah, ummm.....

BONDS- Top 5 player in all of baseball for a whole generation, maybe even top two. And that is before any steriods!

McGwire- Massive power, lousy overall hitting. 49 hrs as a rookie, even before steriods

Canseco- who knows, probably started on steriods early still an extremely talented athlete before steriods. Amazing speed for a guy his size with an excellent arm.

 

[silver7]

And Jose IS

one hell of a fighter!!!:nohead:

 

[bookie]

Yeah, ummm.....

BONDS- Top 5 player in all of baseball for a whole generation, maybe even top two. And that is before any steriods!

McGwire- Massive power, lousy overall hitting. 49 hrs as a rookie, even before steriods

Canseco- who knows, probably started on steriods early still an extremely talented athlete before steriods. Amazing speed for a guy his size with an excellent arm.

Where do I begin?:missingte

 

[AnthonyNapJR]

David Beckham

david Beckham...

clear And Unbeatable

this Guy Sucks. And What Kinda Celebrity Is This Guy?

guy Was Throwing Up In The Last World Cup...he Was Out Of Shape.

 

[dominicdg]

Maybe i dont understand the question. But I dont see how if you was the best player in your sport at for a decent amount of time you can be overrated. So Beckham and Tyson I dont see it. Tyson never got love like that. It wasnt nobody calling this guy a great boxer. He was a knock out king and everybody said it and knew it. And Beckham i can agree with that now. But before he came to america for the fame he was one if not the best player in soccer.

 

[HighTimes]

If you ever seen Dr. J in the ABA before he joined the Sixers, you wouldn't say overrated....

I would agree with that.

 

[flacapper]

Nolan Ryan would be my response. He nearly lost 300 games in his career. He struck out a ton of people and had some of the best stuff the game has ever seen.

The reason I say he is overrated is because he is discussed in the same breath with Maddux, Randy, and Pedro but he wasn't as good as any of them. He got 300 wins because he played for 27 seasons. He was around forever. With the stuff he had, he should have had 400 wins and about 60 or 70 fewer losses. He was also the most inconsistent pitcher I've ever seen from year to year.

He's a very good pitcher but he isn't one of the all-time greats in my opinion.

dude had 7 no hitters i said 7 no hitters no way he was overrated

 

[flacapper]

Jeter

Just a hater
Time he is finished will be top 5 most hits in baseball history
World series MVP 2000
All Star game MVP 2000
First Ballot Hall of Famer
Captain of the New York Yankees with 4 maybe more world championships and shortstop for that matter
Stop hatin

 

[BigOrange+]

1972 Miami Dolphins. They would probably finish 4th in NFC East this year.

 

[HighTimes]

dude had 7 no hitters i said 7 no hitters no way he was overrated

How many times did Ryan take no hitters into the 5th and 6th innings?
Every start this man made could end up in a no hitter or a 1 hitter. The losses were because he played on some of the worst offensive teams in baseball.

If you knew anything about Ryan you would know that he left a ton of games were he was losing 1-0 or 2-1 and had no chance at getting a win.

If he played on any high scoring teams this mans record would include 400 wins and less than 200 losses.

No way Nolan Ryan was underated. If anything he was underated.

 

[5teamparlay]

david Beckham...

clear And Unbeatable

this Guy Sucks. And What Kinda Celebrity Is This Guy?

guy Was Throwing Up In The Last World Cup...he Was Out Of Shape.

David Beckham 1975 - Soccer player

Happy 43rd