Pippen IMO was one of greatest defensive players of all time and a very versatile offensive player as well.
Defensively, he shut down Magic Johnson and LA Lakers back in 91 and did the same thing to Mark Jackson and Indiana Pacers in Eastern Conference Finals in late 90s.
Plus he could pass the ball, run, shoot and score although he deferred to MJ. Ain't a whole lot of players that won six NBA titles by simply being in the right place at the right time. And the year Michael quit, they still got within one bad call against the Knicks of going to the Finals.
True, his hissy fit about Kucok getting the last shot doesn't reflect positively on him, and true his skills have diminished in his later years, but he is still one of top 50.
And while I never have had migraines, people who missed playing time like Jabbar or Terrell Davis from the Broncos never got that kind of criticism.
To go back to original title, my vote for most overrated superstar would be Troy Aikman. Aikman couldn't get out of the way of a rush to save his life but he had All-Pro linemen and Larry Allen a future HOF'er to protect him, a great running game led by all-time leading runner Emmitt Smith, a HOF receiver in Michael Irvin, a great defense to keep him in the game and a great coach.
No way he could have survived on Bronco teams that Elway took to the Super Bowl in his three losing attempts.
Defensively, he shut down Magic Johnson and LA Lakers back in 91 and did the same thing to Mark Jackson and Indiana Pacers in Eastern Conference Finals in late 90s.
Plus he could pass the ball, run, shoot and score although he deferred to MJ. Ain't a whole lot of players that won six NBA titles by simply being in the right place at the right time. And the year Michael quit, they still got within one bad call against the Knicks of going to the Finals.
True, his hissy fit about Kucok getting the last shot doesn't reflect positively on him, and true his skills have diminished in his later years, but he is still one of top 50.
And while I never have had migraines, people who missed playing time like Jabbar or Terrell Davis from the Broncos never got that kind of criticism.
To go back to original title, my vote for most overrated superstar would be Troy Aikman. Aikman couldn't get out of the way of a rush to save his life but he had All-Pro linemen and Larry Allen a future HOF'er to protect him, a great running game led by all-time leading runner Emmitt Smith, a HOF receiver in Michael Irvin, a great defense to keep him in the game and a great coach.
No way he could have survived on Bronco teams that Elway took to the Super Bowl in his three losing attempts.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Pippen IMO was one of greatest defensive players of all time and a very versatile offensive player as well. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>when he played for the bulls he looked so athletic and unstopable, but when he played for houston & port he just looked like a piece of crap with a medicore jump shot. why is this? its not really the jordan factor, is it?! scottie came from a D2 school i think
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by blue edwards:
most overrated player in any sport, any era:
scottie pippen <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
ya beat me to it.
100% agree
i would also have to toss in there:
Greg Norman
name me one person who choked in more pressure situations than him. who can forget the biggest choke job in a long time on the last round of the masters. he was UP something like 6 strokes with 9 to go and not only lost - he lost by like 5 strokes! hell - even I COULD WIN the masters in this situation.
the heimlich manuever was invented with greg norman in mind!
most overrated player in any sport, any era:
scottie pippen <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
ya beat me to it.
100% agree
i would also have to toss in there:
Greg Norman
name me one person who choked in more pressure situations than him. who can forget the biggest choke job in a long time on the last round of the masters. he was UP something like 6 strokes with 9 to go and not only lost - he lost by like 5 strokes! hell - even I COULD WIN the masters in this situation.
the heimlich manuever was invented with greg norman in mind!
Nolan Ryan. He's first all-time in walks as well as K's and he's second all-time (to Cy Young) in losses with 292. His career ERA is about 3.15 and given his 24 years in the league he only averaged about 13 wins/yr. Not saying he doesn't belong in the Hall but he's not one of the top 20 pitchers all-time. He gets more recognition just because he was a strikeout pitcher.
Man, are you right!
I could not agree with you more...People must be living in caves.
Kobe Bryant? To say this guy is over rated you have to be an ass.
Railbird, you are the one who stated, "KOBE"? Man, I "USED TO" respect your picks on tennis and a few other things. But recently, your posts are a little off the wall.
I can see people voicing opinions. I think if you made a statement like this 2000 years ago, I think they would have stoned you. Please, and please vindicate why Kobe Bryant is the most over rated. I am very interested to see what evidence, proof, or stats to back this up.
I could not agree with you more...People must be living in caves.
Kobe Bryant? To say this guy is over rated you have to be an ass.
Railbird, you are the one who stated, "KOBE"? Man, I "USED TO" respect your picks on tennis and a few other things. But recently, your posts are a little off the wall.
I can see people voicing opinions. I think if you made a statement like this 2000 years ago, I think they would have stoned you. Please, and please vindicate why Kobe Bryant is the most over rated. I am very interested to see what evidence, proof, or stats to back this up.
.267 actually, which is exactly the league average.
Go outside the box, his .267 batting average is more than offset by his lifetme .380 on base percentage, which is better than your slappy .300 hitter that has a .350 OBA.
If many times, you mean four, then yes, Schmidt led the league 4 times for most strike outs.
But he also led the league four times in drawing base on balls.
p.s. Rod Carew was a .328 lifetime hitter (60 points higher) but has only a slightly higher OBA.
There's a reason why the Phillies finished first or second in their division 7 times between the mid 70's and mid 80's , and his name is Mike Schmidt.
(yes, Lefty Carlton helped also.)
Phillies were bottom dwellers for years before Schmidt came up.
