Who is looking good to win the Kentucky Derby this year in your opinion?

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Hatetherivercard, it is Cuvee's info. Cuvee was favored to win the BC Juvenile, but was defeated badly. I remember all week the TVG announcers and DRF boards were saying that Cuvee couldn't get two turns. I was so excited to see if he could and I had a nice pick 3 that was two races alive and Cuvee was my single, and it was going to pay decent, but he really couldn't get two turns!
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Bailey said he didn't fire that day, I'm wondering if he was injured after the race because he didn't run again. Cuvee was very impressive in beating Value Plus at Aqueduct. Seeing he has no preps and just one workout, I'd say that he isn't going to run in the derby.
 

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Horses is my thing. I had Friends Lake in the Florida Derby but I don't like him in Kentucky...THe horse this year is Eddington.
 

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Last year I tried to "corner the market" and bet futures on most of the feild. I got great odds on many of the ponies and dodged a bullet when one of them won. I won't try that again on a sport I no little about. Still KD futures on good horses that may or may not be in the race are enticing.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JeanneS:
Hatetherivercard, it is Cuvee's info. Cuvee was favored to win the BC Juvenile, but was defeated badly. I remember all week the TVG announcers and DRF boards were saying that Cuvee couldn't get two turns. I was so excited to see if he could and I had a nice pick 3 that was two races alive and Cuvee was my single, and it was going to pay decent, but he really couldn't get two turns!
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Bailey said he didn't fire that day, I'm wondering if he was injured after the race because he didn't run again. Cuvee was very impressive in beating Value Plus at Aqueduct. Seeing he has no preps and just one workout, I'd say that he isn't going to run in the derby.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Thanks... much appreciated
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Eddington available - Derby futures at Oly +1200, and at Pinnacle at +1650.


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The Cliff's Edge is going in the Blue Grass at Keeneland this Saturday...personally, I won't be betting him (unless I find some price horses to use him with in exactas and tris). The goal of Zito and the owners is the Derby, so he won't be all-out to win this. The best scenario would be to have him finish third or fourth and have the media and public jump on the winners of the late prep races and discount him. I don't want everyone to jump on the bandwagon.

Horseshoe: I've lived in Chicago and Kentucky (well, just for 6 months in 1993-94), so I used to follow those circuits closely. When I followed Horace Greely's advice ("move west, young man") in 1994, I added SoCal to my daily routine. However, since being in Vegas, I realized something when I looked back over all my betting. In my job, I would find myself in race books just about every day and I had gotten into the habit of betting just because I was there. When I went back over my records, I started to see a pattern where I did very well on weekends, especially on stakes races and richer allowance events, and did terribly during the weeks. I'm a longshot player and I found that I got much more consistency out of 20-1 shots in high-level races (mainly because they were well-intentioned) than in cheap claiming races or maiden races that are prevalent during the week. So, nowadays, I rarely look at a midweek card (I'm usually busy with work anyway, so it lets me focus on that) and really concentrate on the bigger, better racing cards on the weekends.

JimFeistSux: Great point about boxing the top trainers. Two years ago, I can't even recall who my top horse in the Derby was...but I saw that Baffert and Lukas had horses that were much higher than I thought was warranted, so I boxed them as a saver. The exacta paid $1,300 when War Emblem (Baffert's horse) and Proud Citizen (Lukas) finished 1-2. $1,300 for a Baffert-Lukas exacta in the Derby...unreal!!! I wouldn't do it in every stakes race, but if there are overlays, go for it. It only has to hit once to make up for a lot of losing tickets, and when you know that a given race is a proven trainer's primary goal, that's all the more reason.

JeanneS: Cuvee had an ankle injury...recovering slowly. Not on the Derby trail.

randyrohn: I used to play more futures, but I often found myself with 5 plays on horses at 100-1 or thereabouts and only one would make it to the First Saturday in May, so for all practical purposes, I would have the horse at 20-1 (100 divided by 5) and be bummed when the horse went off around the same odds...seemed like a lot of time and energy invested for very little return if anything. Anyone who can make money on futures (even in just one year) gets a big tip of the cap from me.
 

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In my eyes - The playing of My Old Kentucky Home signifies a horse players/gamblers New Year. But rather than looking ahead it always reminds of my Dad and a couple of my ole racing buds, who would have been front and center but are no longer with us. Eyes water every time, darn it all.

From DRF, "More than 20 years ago, Churchill Downs put a cap of 20 runners on the Kentucky Derby, in an attempt to make a chaotic situation a bit more sane. This year, with favorites tanking and a new longshot winning seemingly every week, the list of potential starters has grown larger and opaque."

Wide open full field as per usual lately. Not that anyone asked but I'll be placing my usual Derby wager, boxing six or seven longshots.(Ex.-Tri) Run for the Roses, bring on the calvery charge.
 

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with a field that looks wide open I think they will have no trouble finding 20 horses I wouldnt doubt that there will be some very good horse left out
 

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ill guess 20 starters at the post draw and the normal race day or near race day scratch for a starting field of 19.
 

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20 is to many I think. Just to cluttered up. hard to get a perfect ride for sure.
 

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Mickj - I posted your play in the NBA Best Bet Contest, but do not understand why you could not have done so for yourself. Please try to post for yourself in the future, EM only in emergency (site down).


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Appreciate it Wil & General. For some reason i can get into every forum but NBA.
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Anyone have anyone they like in the Big 3 races Saturday?
As I stated before, I'm just going to use The Cliff's Edge in exotics. He's only 4-1 and really hoping he has an unimpressive performance so I can get a much better price on him on Derby Day. But, in case he ruins that plan and wins, I think I'll wheel him on top in trifectas and that way I come away with something.
 

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Blue Grass PP's

http://www.drf.com/row/pps/04bluegrass.pdf

9th (5:15)
Toyota Blue Grass S. (G1)

Distance: 1 1/8 Miles Surface: Dirt Open Age: 3 Year Olds Stakes
Purse $750,000.
Prg.# PP Horse Jockey Trainer Wt. Claim $ Equip. Med. ML

2 2 Action This Day Flores D R Mandella Richard 123 0 L 9-2

3 3 The Cliff's Edge Sellers S J Zito Nicholas P 123 0 L 4-1

4 4 Limehouse Santos J A Pletcher Todd A 123 0 L 6-1

5 5 That's an Outrage Guidry M Puhich Michael 123 0 L 30-1

6 6 Lion Heart Smith M E Biancone Patrick L 123 0 5-2

7 7 Mustanfar Migliore R McLaughlin Kiaran P 123 0 L 15-1

8 8 Preachinatthebar Santiago Javier Baffert Bob 123 0 L 4-1

9 9 Breakaway Albarado R J Howard Neil J 123 0 L 12-


Will skip over the obvious Fav's here for a payout!!!!! Mustanfar race by race improvement with exception of G-3 Palm Beach Turf (go figure Fappiano) coupled with ability to hold pace... 23 last quarter in Tampa Derby will take a shot at 15-1 ML..

#7 Mustanfar Migliore R McLaughlin
 

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