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For reference....The lowest rated SB in terms of viewership this decade?

Ravens/9ers...No brainer

None of the leagues star QB's participating.
 

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My opinion has to why ratings have increased over the past decade(s)?

1) started with offshore gambling
2) fantasy football, even people who never watched are playing
3) daily fantasy (more gambling)
4) and now legalized gambling

The rule changes had nothing to do with any of this, although I suppose higher scores can make fantasy football more exciting
 

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My opinion has to why ratings have increased over the past decade(s)?

1) started with offshore gambling
2) fantasy football, even people who never watched are playing
3) daily fantasy (more gambling)
4) and now legalized gambling

The rule changes had nothing to do with any of this, although I suppose higher scores can make fantasy football more exciting

You can't fuck with the QB at all. So the best QB's are better and more important than ever.

If you could fuck with the QB, then the ratings would be worse because the star QB's would get hurt more.

Again, I can't run it side by side but if you had 1980's rules from 2005-present then these top QB's aren't dominating nearly as much as they can.



Also, the way the salary cap is makes QB's more important since it makes QB/offense a more sustainable form of team building, but that's kinda a separate issue.
 

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For reference....The lowest rated SB in terms of viewership this decade?

Ravens/9ers...No brainer

None of the leagues star QB's participating.

Neither team is widely loved or hated

Like the Patriots, who are national leaders in both categories (and they played in most of the other SB's :))
 

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You can't fuck with the QB at all. So the best QB's are better and more important than ever.

If you could fuck with the QB, then the ratings would be worse because the star QB's would get hurt more.

Again, I can't run it side by side but if you had 1980's rules from 2005-present then these top QB's aren't dominating nearly as much as they can.



Also, the way the salary cap is makes QB's more important since it makes QB/offense a more sustainable form of team building, but that's kinda a separate issue.

Good and smart people can and do disagree
 

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My opinion has to why ratings have increased over the past decade(s)?

1) started with offshore gambling
2) fantasy football, even people who never watched are playing
3) daily fantasy (more gambling)
4) and now legalized gambling

The rule changes had nothing to do with any of this, although I suppose higher scores can make fantasy football more exciting


id say in the early 2000s when everyone started getting hi def is when the at home experience really became more enjoyable for me. i always watched, but hi def was a game changer for me. watching replay, seeing it up close, simply a great experience.
 

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For reference....The lowest rated SB in terms of viewership this decade?

Ravens/9ers...No brainer

None of the leagues star QB's participating.

how much of that played into the lights going out? a huge delay with nothing happening kills viewership
 

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Good and smart people can and do disagree

What do you disagree about as it pertains to QB's though?

NFL isn't a niche sport that is catering to RX gamblers. It's catering to a huge audience and is trying to get 15-25m people a week to watch the games.

And QB is really only position you can have larger than life stars at now anyway. Other guys fall off too fast due to injury or just because of how fierce the comp is

Although I think RX gamblers like watching star QB's more as well.
 

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how much of that played into the lights going out? a huge delay with nothing happening kills viewership

I guess....I mean, are people really debating Tom Brady and Peyton Manning teams making deep playoff runs is = to teams like the Seahawks or Vikings or Ravens or Jaguars that have been more D-centric?

These guys are larger than life stars that drive tons of casual fan viewership.
 

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I personally miss Nebraska being in the Big 12. I like something in between Texas Tech where they throw every down and NO defense and Wisconsin where it's almost all run and a ton of defense.
 

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I guess....I mean, are people really debating Tom Brady and Peyton Manning teams making deep playoff runs is = to teams like the Seahawks or Vikings or Ravens?

These guys are larger than life stars that drive tons of casual fan viewership.

no, i just remember the 49ers/ravens super bowl and thinking it was awful to wait that long at halftime. stars create viewership and the qbs for the most part are the stars
 

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no, i just remember the 49ers/ravens super bowl and thinking it was awful to wait that long at halftime. stars create viewership and the qbs for the most part are the stars

Yeah, I mean you gotta find a balance.

If you're an NFL owner, you want the best QB's to be on good teams and you want to do some social engineering to make that happen.

But you don't wanna go too far where Fitzpatrick is tossing up 400 per week like it's a joke.
 

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You're changing the narrative, but your argument makes more sense, it's certainly plausible anyhow. Maybe more scoring will increase ratings, maybe not, the jury is still out at this point. I don't believe ratings increased in week 1 because of more offense, that takes time to have an impact. If there is any one factor that can possibly have such a huge impact on the early ratings, it's the end of the kneeling. But I'm not even saying that's the reason, sometimes shit just happens and we look for reasons to explain it. It's like the stock market, experts back into every increase or every decrease every minute of every day.


I did not change the narrative I was just stating what cowherds narrative was/is
 

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I did not change the narrative I was just stating what cowherds narrative was/is

They really go hand and hand though, it's cause and effect. And it's not happening on accident. All these QB's playing well has made the game more interesting to casual fans and fantasy fans. It creates a storyline and higher scoring. The roughing calls have been annoying, but once defenses adapt to it, it might work. I don't think the NFL is going to switch back either if ratings are going up.
 
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Trump loses to the NFL, goes bankrupt many times and he's sell trying to fancy himself a smart businessman lol. Delusional people will say, (just as Trump says, bankruptcy is a legal way out! IT SURE IS AND TRUMP HAS PROUDLY TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THAT WAY OUT MANY TIMES AND SHOWN OFF ABOUT IT LOL)

I'm glad the players stopped kneeling. If they didn't THEN Trump would've won because he would've divided the NFL from it's fans and the players and owners from one another. They can continue the just fight off the field. That's all I wanted. For the NFL to be pure again of politics. I agree with Kap's fight and protests just not on the field.

The players continue to get paid millions as they do what they love and the fans are happy and the NFL winning as usual. Trump's divide and conquer did not work and republicants will try to spin it as usual, as a win for them but only ones winning are the NFL and it's players.

Amen.

Trump has never gone bankrupt, not even once. You're so stupid you don't even know the difference between personal bankruptcy and chapt. 11.

Businesses that Trump has had a partial ownership have filed chapt 11. restructuring, which was a prudent business decision at the time.

Ignorant ass clown.
 

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Trump has never gone bankrupt, not even once. You're so stupid you don't even know the difference between personal bankruptcy and chapt. 11.

Businesses that Trump has had a partial ownership have filed chapt 11. restructuring, which was a prudent business decision at the time.

Ignorant ass clown.

Haha +1
 

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I did not change the narrative I was just stating what cowherds narrative was/is

You changed the narrative of the discussion in this forum, since I simply don't listen his show, I only know what other people say about him. That was about more roughing the passer calls are increasing ratings because people want to watch star QB's. That argument was rather superficial and poorly presented. If his argument is they want more offense, and that's much more far reaching than protecting the QB's, because offense increases ratings, then at least that makes sense and has plausibility
 
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Trump has never gone bankrupt, not even once. You're so stupid you don't even know the difference between personal bankruptcy and chapt. 11.

Businesses that Trump has had a partial ownership have filed chapt 11. restructuring, which was a prudent business decision at the time.

Ignorant ass clown.


Are you really that stupid and/or shameless that you are going to play on semantics? Personal bankruptcy or business, these were his businesses and HE filed for bankruptcy for HIS businesses or ones he had stake in. HE meaning Trump HIMSELF as shown off about playing this legal loophole many many times.

Do I have to spell it out that it wasn't personal bankruptcy when it's a given and common knowledge? Does it change my point? You really are reaching here and anybody with half a brain can see through it you ignorant old dying breed geezer lol Sit in your rocking chair and seeth at ''the brave new world'' life and the U.S.A has passed you by. Your opinions don't count and you don't count and bigoted geezer clowns like you are dying off thankfully.

How's that for stupid? Calling me stupid but you just made a fool out of yourself yet again. And yet again you believe you got me lol. His businesses going bankrupt is obviously worse than filing personal bankruptcy because he claims to be a great businessman. You really are slow lol

You and willie are the ignorant, bigoted, dying breed, HYPOCRITICAL morons on this forum and you're nothing more than a joke lol. That's why you 2 are so obsessed in the politics/garbage forum because you're desperately trying to cling to something but you're losing it, dying breed and you geezers don't matter anymore.

Call me stupid yet you proved yourself to be a moron...yet again...lol.
 
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And you just got found stupid by association lol. Should've held up on that +1. We all know, and it's common knowledge that it wasn't personal bankruptcy and that's fine because he claims to be a great businessman and he filed bankruptcy for BUSINESSES.
 
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Trump has never gone bankrupt, not even once. You're so stupid you don't even know the difference between personal bankruptcy and chapt. 11.

Businesses that Trump has had a partial ownership have filed chapt 11. restructuring, which was a prudent business decision at the time.

Ignorant ass clown.


Prudent? Yeah he's really ''prudent'' when he's proud of playing the system lol. He even showed off about it. Is it prudent when you keep taking advantage of the system? What do you think happens to the people he owes money to? That's the kind of ''man'' and actions you find prudent and admirable. With your lack of character I'm not surprised you condone it.

Maybe once I can see, but to file over and over and show off about it isn't prudent it's reckless and unethical. Not to mention proves he's a bad businessman. Starts off with millions from his old man and believes he's a great businessman LOL. Give anybody with half a brain that kind of money and he can manage to run a couple businesses to the ground and file bankruptcy several times...OH EXCUSE ME! I MEAN HIS BUSINESSES LOL. Cause morons like zit that can't find real points to argue or respond with, have to take things literally or play on semantics in a futile attempt to win arguments, or find bias stats or copy and paste bias nonsense to try to prove his point.

Dude, we ALL know, unless you live under a rock that it wasn't personal bankruptcy. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT! LOL That he tried to pass himself as a great businessman but those businesses went bankrupt.

The most fun fail was him trying to start a football league and getting his ass kicked by the NFL.

Zit you lose again. Funniest thing is you actually thought you burned me LOL.

You're old and irrelevant. Don't try to play with the young blood and big boys. Life has passed you by and you're slow witted and ignorant and small town. Stay in your lane old man. Stop humiliating yourself.
 

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