What Do We Think of Kevin Durant ?

[crudebar]

Nets fucked this up. You were tied to Irving.

I am shocked Nets didn't just pay Irving and hoped and prayed he actually showed up for work. Now you pissed Durant off and looking at a re-build. Who knows how long that takes...

Nets simply had to take their chances on Durant/Irving/Simmons. Not like you didn't understand why you were buying when you bought it.

 

[PatsFan1283]

Nets fucked this up. You were tied to Irving.

I am shocked Nets didn't just pay Irving and hoped and prayed he actually showed up for work. Now you pissed Durant off and looking at a re-build. Who knows how long that takes...

Nets simply had to take their chances on Durant/Irving/Simmons. Not like you didn't understand why you were buying when you bought it.

Agree in terms of pure bball move but think Tsai was just over it. Sick of all the drama and malcontent behavior. Which is also why I’m not sure he’s gonna wanna take Ayton back in a Durant deal but we’ll see

But spending 27m in a few hours on 3 low end roleplayer in mills, claxton and O’Neal but not being willing to just bite the bullet on Irving seems dumb. My guess is internally they were just done with it.

 

[crudebar]

Agree in terms of pure bball move but think Tsai was just over it. Sick of all the drama and malcontent behavior. Which is also why I’m not sure he’s gonna wanna take Ayton back in a Durant deal but we’ll see

But spending 27m in a few hours on 3 low end roleplayer in mills, claxton and O’Neal but not being willing to just bite the bullet on Irving seems dumb. My guess is internally they were just done with it.

He should have understood the headache he was getting with Irving; hell he added another one with Simmons.

You just throw it up against the wall and pray it sticks. Good luck on finding another Kevin Durant.

Irving is a basket case. But you took him on based on talent but more so Durant. Not sure what has really changed.

 

[crudebar]

Truthfully when this first came out I thought the Nets had Durant's blessing to move on from Irving. Doesn't look it after all.

 

[Avocado33]

Brooklyn should trade Durant for a guy like Scottie Barnes or Evan Mobley. Get a “sure thing” young guy to build around and some draft capital, good role players, whatever to make salaries work

Phoenix and Miami talked about as what KD wants, but obviously Nets do not have to oblige. I just don’t see how anything those teams can offer is enticing enough. If the Nets accept a rebuild, they should at least get a young stud in return to build around. Suns and Heat can’t offer that.

I think Memphis or New Orleans could be viable options. Memphis could throw JJJ, Williams, and a shit ton of picks or something like that. New Orleans maybe Ingram, role player, and picks

 

[PatsFan1283]

The nets should just tell both of those guys to fuck off, camp starts in September, enjoy your summer well see ya there

They can’t really rebuild because they traded all their own picks for harden which KD and Kyrie pushed for

Durant has 4 years left and Irving has a year, just get everyone in camp and see what happens. Beats getting the Bridges who didn’t commit assault 24 hours before free agency and a few picks.

More I think about it there just isn’t anything worth trading him for. What is working in their favor is Brooklyn is a 2nd rate org with no fans so there isn’t much pressure to keep the team together and Tsai/Marks basically seem repulsed by these guys presence at this point. But more I think of it I could see it being like Kobe’s situation in 2007 where they hold strong.

Durant probably rather be in BK than these smaller market teams anyway so if that’s the case not much point in even dealing him

 

[Avocado33]

They kinda have been playing hardball with Kyrie already, though Kyrie didn't exactly have much leverage. "I'm gonna go to the Lakers for $6 mil". Lol yeah sure.

KD with 4 years left on deal, without showing much sign of decline at 34, should theoretically net one of the biggest hauls in NBA history. Perhaps the deal just isn't there, but this is a pretty rare opportunity to flip a top 3 player near the peak of his powers with that kind of contract. You gotta at least entertain some offers.

 

[Avocado33]

What's weird about Brooklyn is that when you take out all the bullshit drama, mental illness, etc on this roster, it's actually very nice talent-wise, with a lot of complimentary components. KD/Kyrie/Simmons/Curry/Claxton. Joe Harris is reportedly still having a ways to go, but he is a nice piece if he returns to pre-injury form by mid-season. That's a fucking good team...before you factor in all the BS

 

[CHOPTALK]

I just put a few bucks on Nets +700

 

[Avocado33]

Here he comes!

 

[Willie99]

What happens when KD gets traded to Boston for Jaylon, Smart, Grant Williams, and someone else?

i joke but the trade makes some sense

No fucking way, awful trade.'

And if it happened, I don't follow the C's with the same passion

Brad Stevens is way too smart, and he already made his moves. KD is not the solution

 

[Avocado33]

No fucking way, awful trade.'

And if it happened, I don't follow the C's with the same passion

Brad Stevens is way too smart, and he already made his moves. KD is not the solution

Yup C’s retooling the right way so far. Don’t need a splash.

 

[Mr_Mark]

Great offensive scorer, solid defender, very weak minded and spoiled.

 

[Avocado33]

Looking like Durant to Toronto, Kyrie to Lakers

Not done deals but looking like strong possibility

 

[vincentvega]

Insiders wrote that Kyrie and Westbrook were to be exchanged on Sunday. But something went wrong. Irving had already bought a house in LA, though. Waiting.

 

[Avocado33]

Insiders wrote that Kyrie and Westbrook were to be exchanged on Sunday. But something went wrong. Irving had already bought a house in LA, though. Waiting.

Gotta work out the details with draft compensation/role players. Lakers weirdly acting out of position of leverage it seems

The Lakers are good at falling upwards. Helps to be located in Los Angeles

 

[betnetix]

This is often the case. A team of three superstars (two of whom have been MVPs in recent years) is, on paper, one of the top contenders in the NBA. In reality, the team shakes all year, one leader leaves, then a second one demands a trade, someone who is basically afraid to play now comes in. The team barely makes it through the playoffs only to get swept 0-4 in the first round. As they say, what could go wrong in such a situation?

After that, the club's main star demands a trade and names a list of the top teams in the regular season where he's willing to go. It just begs the conclusion that all of this was done in order to get a better contract for Irving and continue to fight for the playoffs, there can be no other explanation.

 

[Avocado33]

This is often the case. A team of three superstars (two of whom have been MVPs in recent years) is, on paper, one of the top contenders in the NBA. In reality, the team shakes all year, one leader leaves, then a second one demands a trade, someone who is basically afraid to play now comes in. The team barely makes it through the playoffs only to get swept 0-4 in the first round. As they say, what could go wrong in such a situation?

After that, the club's main star demands a trade and names a list of the top teams in the regular season where he's willing to go. It just begs the conclusion that all of this was done in order to get a better contract for Irving and continue to fight for the playoffs, there can be no other explanation.

Players have too much control, there’s no doubt. Hope the owners lay down the law at the next CBA negotiation.

Lack of continuity is kind of annoying. Stars are fun to watch but would rather them be on the same team for a while

 

[Ladeda]

One thing for sure. The Nets owner owes TWolves GM a fruit basket or something. Holy shit did the Utah rape them. A slow plodding center who is great on defense for all those pick's. I would have been surprised if Utah would have gotten one high 1st rounder for Gobert. Not to mention they have Towns already. I understand Towns don't want to play center. When the hell was the last time anybody in the NBA won anything with a big time center. Most teams play centerless in crunch time because they become a liability in todays NBA game.

Now Minn is going with two big guys, when was the last time twin towers were effective? 30 years ago. It might have a chance to work if Gobert was a great spot up 3 shooter, but he isn't . Minn mortgaged their future to get worse.

 

[Avocado33]

One thing for sure. The Nets owner owes TWolves GM a fruit basket or something. Holy shit did the Utah rape them. A slow plodding center who is great on defense for all those pick's. I would have been surprised if Utah would have gotten one high 1st rounder for Gobert. Not to mention they have Towns already. I understand Towns don't want to play center. When the hell was the last time anybody in the NBA won anything with a big time center. Most teams play centerless in crunch time because they become a liability in todays NBA game.

Now Minn is going with two big guys, when was the last time twin towers were effective? 30 years ago. It might have a chance to work if Gobert was a great spot up 3 shooter, but he isn't . Minn mortgaged their future to get worse.

Surprised there isn’t as much dialogue about how awful that trade is. KAT also becomes less effective — like the whole reason he is effective as a player is because he can stretch the floor as a 5.

Their offense is gonna be so clogged and not like their defense will be that much better. They hid KAT’s defensive flaws well because they could contain perimeter players well with solid defense around the arc. Now they traded that away and will be Gobert or bust on defense

And yeah if that’s the price for a big who can’t play offense in 2022, can’t imagine how much Durant will generate