Michigan playing 3 QB's, 2 of whom are freshmen, and the third of whom we saw last year is not a capable BCS - conference caliber quarterback.
Western Michigan has a 4th year QB who led the MAC in passing last year, and whom many are suggesting could be an NFL draft pick following this season.
Which side do you trust with your money...especially with one of them getting 2 scores?
Western Michigan has a 4th year QB who led the MAC in passing last year, and whom many are suggesting could be an NFL draft pick following this season.
Which side do you trust with your money...especially with one of them getting 2 scores?
Here is a brief preview of WM: http://www.nationalchamps.net/2009/sub/conf_preview/mac.htm
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]WESTERN MICHIGAN[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
STRENGTHS: Senior QB Tim Hiller is a projected mid-round future NFL pick. He has already thrown for 8,080 yards and 76 touchdowns in his career. He has plenty of support around him with 1,000-yard rusher Brandon Anderson and a very athletic offensive line that returns four starters. First Team All-MAC linebacker Austin Pritchard has to be counted on to get this defense close to respectable. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]CONCERNS: The significant issues are on defense where eight starters were lost. The secondary lost three All-MAC performers and the front line has to replace three starters too. Outside of Juan Nunez, the receivers are slim on players that have logged significant snaps. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]PROGNOSIS: Like most heavy hitters in the MAC, the Broncos are loaded in terms of offensive fireworks but extremely short in defensive talent and experience. The rebuilding effort is large at many positions where six All-Conference players are no longer on this team. With Hiller behind center and a great running game they will be capable of keeping most defenses guessing while getting into their third straight bowl invite. The can and will outscore many of their opponents. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]PROJECTED RECORD: 8-4[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]WESTERN MICHIGAN[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
STRENGTHS: Senior QB Tim Hiller is a projected mid-round future NFL pick. He has already thrown for 8,080 yards and 76 touchdowns in his career. He has plenty of support around him with 1,000-yard rusher Brandon Anderson and a very athletic offensive line that returns four starters. First Team All-MAC linebacker Austin Pritchard has to be counted on to get this defense close to respectable. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]CONCERNS: The significant issues are on defense where eight starters were lost. The secondary lost three All-MAC performers and the front line has to replace three starters too. Outside of Juan Nunez, the receivers are slim on players that have logged significant snaps. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]PROGNOSIS: Like most heavy hitters in the MAC, the Broncos are loaded in terms of offensive fireworks but extremely short in defensive talent and experience. The rebuilding effort is large at many positions where six All-Conference players are no longer on this team. With Hiller behind center and a great running game they will be capable of keeping most defenses guessing while getting into their third straight bowl invite. The can and will outscore many of their opponents. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]PROJECTED RECORD: 8-4[/FONT]
You are right, nobody said he wasn't good. But some incredibly clueless person said that Michigan lost "arguably" their 2 best DL players, when anyone with half a clue can clearly see from statistics that it is absolutely no contest who the best DL player was from last year. Hope you enjoy arguing with yourself, becuase the rest of us on planet Earth know who the best player was.
And :lol: @ comparing the average intellect from a Big Ten college city to San Diego. Like DOOOOD you have surfed one too many waves, and your analysis shows it.
This article might shed some life on why Michigan is struggling to find a QB.
http://www.detnews.com/article/20090824/SPORTS0201/908240338/1004/-Mr.-X--changes-Michigan-QB-race
http://www.detnews.com/article/20090824/SPORTS0201/908240338/1004/-Mr.-X--changes-Michigan-QB-race
Rodriguez has said, and the quarterbacks reiterated Sunday, he likely won't name a solid starter until after a few games.
What's making the decision so difficult? The fact that each candidate brings something completely different to the table. While Sheridan is the only one with game experience, having started four games last year, Forcier enrolled in January, went through spring practice and has worked hard to grasp Rodriguez's offense.
Then there's the "X" factor -- Robinson. The sleek, 6-footer runs the 40-yard dash in 4.32 seconds and has dazzled coaches and players alike with his speed.
Perhaps most amazing is he runs with his shoelaces untied, hence, the nickname, "Shoelace." He said he earned the name when he started playing football as a 7-year-old in Deerfield Beach, Fla. He played with his laces untied, and even when his coach would tie them, they would come untied.
"When you watch him practice, when you watch him run track and he runs a 10.44 100-meter in unlaced shoes you're thinking, 'Aha, that's a little bit different,' " said Rod <nobr id="itxt_nobr_10_0" style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 100%; color: darkgreen;">Smith</nobr>, Michigan quarterbacks coach.
"Damnedest thing I've ever seen. Anybody that runs that fast, I'm not going to tell him how to tie his shoes."
to columbus doofus tread
Tread,
Columbus Ohio is one of the few cities north of the Mason-Dixon line where the citizenry can relate to ALL of the characters from the movie Deliverance. And I think it is great that you have that picture of the cleavage babe. If you keep your computer on late at night, it will give you something to do.
Tread,
Columbus Ohio is one of the few cities north of the Mason-Dixon line where the citizenry can relate to ALL of the characters from the movie Deliverance. And I think it is great that you have that picture of the cleavage babe. If you keep your computer on late at night, it will give you something to do.
More tidbits from UM RB coach Fred Jackson
http://www.detnews.com/article/2009.../Wolverines+plan+to+use+depth+at+running+back
http://www.detnews.com/article/2009.../Wolverines+plan+to+use+depth+at+running+back
</script>Jackson said he never has had a speedier group of tailbacks while at Michigan, and he never has had a more physical back than senior Brandon Minor.
How will he keep all of them -- Minor, Carlos Brown, Michael Shaw, Kevin Grady and Vincent Smith -- happy this fall?
"I think I already got that in the back of my mind how to do it," Jackson said Sunday during Michigan's media day. "I don't want to say right now, but I think I know right now. I've got a plan for it. And I know how to do it.
"You're going to see it and you're going to see it very effectively, because I think they all warrant (playing time) because they're all good enough."
Jackson said he has a "play-selection type thing in my mind" and said specific backs will be used in certain situations.
In other words, this will not be a Michigan offense that will rely on one back to carry the load each game.
Still, Minor seems to be the key. Jackson heaped praise on Minor, saying that if he remains healthy, he will be a 1,000-yard rusher and an All-Big Ten back.
"I've coached a lot of tough guys, but I'm going to say right now, (Minor's) probably the toughest back I've ever coached physically," Jackson said.
In the past, you could look at a Michigan back and assume he'd have 20 or so carries a game. That's not the case in Rich <nobr style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 100%; color: darkgreen;" id="itxt_nobr_10_0">Rodriguez's
"Everything is a read," Jackson said. "It's not like the old offense, where you say, 'I know we're going to give him 20 or 25.' This offense, he may get 30 (carries) or five."
And while Minor and Grady give the Wolverines a more physical presence in the backfield, there's plenty of speed as well.
"In this group right here, if you miss Carlos Brown on the 1-yard line, he'll go 99 yards; if you miss Shaw, he'll get it around the 20," Jackson said, trying to explain how to gauge their speed. "If you miss Vince, he'll get up to the other team's 40.
"I like all my guys. If I have to start Vince Smith in a game, I'm very happy with it. If I have to start Shaw, I'm happy with it. Carlos, Brandon, Grady, it doesn't faze me, and they know it."
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"You're going to see it and you're going to see it very effectively, because I think they all warrant (playing time) because they're all good enough."
Jackson said he has a "play-selection type thing in my mind" and said specific backs will be used in certain situations.
In other words, this will not be a Michigan offense that will rely on one back to carry the load each game.
Still, Minor seems to be the key. Jackson heaped praise on Minor, saying that if he remains healthy, he will be a 1,000-yard rusher and an All-Big Ten back.
"I've coached a lot of tough guys, but I'm going to say right now, (Minor's) probably the toughest back I've ever coached physically," Jackson said.
In the past, you could look at a Michigan back and assume he'd have 20 or so carries a game. That's not the case in Rich <nobr id="itxt_nobr_10_0" style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 100%; color: darkgreen;">Rodriguez's
"Everything is a read," Jackson said. "It's not like the old offense, where you say, 'I know we're going to give him 20 or 25.' This offense, he may get 30 (carries) or five."
And while Minor and Grady give the Wolverines a more physical presence in the backfield, there's plenty of speed as well.
"In this group right here, if you miss Carlos Brown on the 1-yard line, he'll go 99 yards; if you miss Shaw, he'll get it around the 20," Jackson said, trying to explain how to gauge their speed. "If you miss Vince, he'll get up to the other team's 40.
"I like all my guys. If I have to start Vince Smith in a game, I'm very happy with it. If I have to start Shaw, I'm happy with it. Carlos, Brandon, Grady, it doesn't faze me, and they know it."
This coming from someone who lives in San Diego? I've been to San Diego and really have nothing bad to say about the city, however, I can see how the fumes from the surfboard wax and chemicals from your "frosted lettuce" have apparently affected your logical thinking......so unless you have actually been to Columbus and experienced the so-called "deliverance" characteristics the city in your opinion represents then basically...I'd shut the fuck up...^^
And since 3 of your 5 posts have brought absolutley nothing of value to this forum...I suggest you reevaluate why it is you are here...
fball playa
I have been to 3 OSU - Michigan games -- so I have been to Columbus on numerous occasions. Maybe times have changed in the past 10 years, but Columbus used to have a lot of rednecks and racists .... and let's be honest if you look at OSU's academic rankings -- not very impressive at all. Of course, there is the occasional OSU player who is not just being happy with being passed thru at a football factory (QB Krenzel and the RB who is now an articulate ESPN commentator and complained to the press when the academic tutors did not want him to spend any significant time on studies.). And it is hard to forget how Woody Hayes used his platform to keep promoting the virtues of the Vietnam War and Richard Nixon. so, that is my view of Columbus and the reason for my comments.
I have been to 3 OSU - Michigan games -- so I have been to Columbus on numerous occasions. Maybe times have changed in the past 10 years, but Columbus used to have a lot of rednecks and racists .... and let's be honest if you look at OSU's academic rankings -- not very impressive at all. Of course, there is the occasional OSU player who is not just being happy with being passed thru at a football factory (QB Krenzel and the RB who is now an articulate ESPN commentator and complained to the press when the academic tutors did not want him to spend any significant time on studies.). And it is hard to forget how Woody Hayes used his platform to keep promoting the virtues of the Vietnam War and Richard Nixon. so, that is my view of Columbus and the reason for my comments.
An excellently researched opinion on Columbus and its citizens. About as well researched as your information on Michigan's D-Line.
Oh, and BTW, Kirk Herstreit, Robert Smith, and Chris Spielman are all respected commentators on ESPN, and Krenzel will no doubt be along side them as well in the next 5 years. I know of no other school that has anywhere near that kind of representation in the national picture, so thanks for making my point for me.
Since San Diego is indefensible as a place of either superior football knowledge or academic prestige, please continue deflecting from this fact by focusing on Columbus (and my avatar) instead. Ohio State may not be the cream of the crop in the Big Ten academically, but it is still a Big Ten school that badly outclasses anything in the San Diego area.
And as for the game, it is a complete pass for me until I see these QBs in a game situation, too many other playable games in week 1 to sweat this one.
OSU Intelligence Expectations
Tread,
At a football factory, one expects that the graduates will know football.
No doubt, guys like Spielman and Herbstreit know football.
Like I said, my point was that UM lost most of the productive members of its DLine and you went off. Is cyberspace getting to you?
Or is it living in Ohio? Not sure.
Actually, you made a very ignorant post on academics. UCSan Diego is very highly regarded in academics. Compare the UC system to Ohio State and it would be like comparing 2006 OSU football to 2006 Florida football.
Ah well, you can always download pictures of women with lots of cleavage. So, it's a great world, right?
Tread,
At a football factory, one expects that the graduates will know football.
No doubt, guys like Spielman and Herbstreit know football.
Like I said, my point was that UM lost most of the productive members of its DLine and you went off. Is cyberspace getting to you?
Or is it living in Ohio? Not sure.
Actually, you made a very ignorant post on academics. UCSan Diego is very highly regarded in academics. Compare the UC system to Ohio State and it would be like comparing 2006 OSU football to 2006 Florida football.
Ah well, you can always download pictures of women with lots of cleavage. So, it's a great world, right?
I can't argue that Columbus has its fair share of rednecks...I won't debate you there...I used to think Cincinnati was the "neck of the north," but I don't entirerly disagree that COlumbus may have taken over that title...
However, it isn't just Ohio St, but the state of Ohio itself that has made it's mark all over the football landscape...everyone knows about Woody and Earle Bruce and Coop and now Tress...but didn't some guy named Bo have some type of tie to OSU? Or how about some crazy hoops coach named Knight...and isn't Urban Meyer FROM Ohio? How about the Stoops family? The Debartolo's? Paul Brown? I can go on and on and on but for the sake of boring the other 4.5million people on this forum, I will withhold from doing so. Ohio St's graduation rate is affected greatly by the guys that leave their football and hoops programs early...to enter something called a draft....so easy on Ohio...
