I didn't state there is no second wave in Ontario. And the OP is about masks not working while the present subtopic is regarding your ridiculous & false claim that a rise in Ontario infections proves masks don't work.
That's like the dumbness of saying a rise in any one place at any time in deaths from bicycle or motor cycle accidents proves that brakes & helmets don't work.
That's like the stupidity of saying a rise in any one place at any time in STIs from sexual activities proves that safe sex and condoms don't work.
That's like the ignorance & faulty logic of saying a rise in any one place at any time in deaths from motor vehicle accidents proves that seat belts & airbags don't work.
The fact is without those safety measures, just like without masks, the number of deaths would be even worse, even higher.
Show me official stats that oppose the view i stated:
As for infections increasing in the fall in many places, this was predicted by health experts as schools reopened, more people went back to work, more went indoors in cold weather to closer quarters in rooms often with poor ventilation. The varying rates of covidiocy, irresponsibility & lockdown fatigue are among other factors (e.g. Thanksgiving gatherings) that affect the number of infections. Without masks, whose effectiveness is scientifically supported, the fall infections increase would be way worse.
You have no evidence that covidiocy, or any number of factors working together, didn't cause the rise in infections in the fall. Did the rise in infections just happen for no reason? Is that your argument? Like i said:
As for infections increasing in the fall in many places, this was predicted by health experts as schools reopened, more people went back to work, more went indoors in cold weather to closer quarters in rooms often with poor ventilation. The varying rates of covidiocy, irresponsibility & lockdown fatigue are among other factors (e.g. Thanksgiving gatherings) that affect the number of infections. Without masks, whose effectiveness is scientifically supported, the fall infections increase would be way worse.
Who wears masks at home? As i quoted:
"The cold in northern parts of America will push people back inside, where the virus has a much easier time spreading than the outdoors."
So all it takes for infections to rise is people spending more time indoors. Have people been doing that? With the start of the NFL season were more people staying home to watch the games?
If people acting less safely didn't cause the increase in infections, then in your view what caused the increase in infections? What else could be the cause of an increase in infections? Did they just increase by magic or hocus pocus or ghosts or something? LOL. You keep avoiding answering this line of questioning. Why is that? Is it starting to dawn on you how ridiculous your alleged proof that "masks don't work" (because infections went up) is?
If infections going up proves masks don't work, then shouldn't you conclude that when infections have gone down it proves that masks do work? This also exposes how ridiculous your alleged "proof" is.
Logical fallacy. You keep making the same error repeatedly. And repeatedly not getting it.
No one ever claimed masks will stop a rise in infections even when people are behaving more dangerously.
What did you expect would happen when people act in ways that increase their risk for infections? Of course the number of infections will go up.
Do you think the number of infections just go up for no reason? By magic, or something? LOL.
"Face mask mandates slowed the spread of COVID-19 in Canada"
"... This column evaluates the impact of mask mandates on the spread of COVID-19 in Canada, using the different timings that masks were mandated across the 34 health districts of the province of Ontario. Mask mandates are associated with a 25% or larger weekly reduction in new COVID-19 cases in July and August, relative to the absence of mandates.
Further re this topic:
Loser!@#0SBD.....you are :thumbsup2::kissingbb:niceback:OWNED....Owned?
The only thing going on around here is you and others like savage1 and dafinch providing the rest of us with free comedy.
You guys are beyond delusional.
On November 4th you guys are going to look even more stupid than you do now.
In the meantime, the rest of us will just continue to laugh at you. (and pray for you too)
ointer:
States with higher mask use have lower transmission:
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https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.tow...5fcc6/5ef5fc4da633e.image.jpg?resize=1024,885
Actually masks are very bad for you
https://twitter.com/colleenhubernmd/status/1326878183568781312?s=21
Spreading lies from the MSM...you’re basically a criminal
it all makes since he’s a Canadian they have already been compromised by the chi coms..were literally talking to a commie sheep.
"[h=1]Lockdowns could be avoided if 95% of people wore masks[/h]
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/europe/coronavirus-europe-lockdown-tiers-intl/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/europe/coronavirus-europe-lockdown-tiers-intl/index.html
CNN fake news
False.
Covid is transmitted by droplets which masks block. You conveniently ignored that, or are ignorant of the fact.
No mask is 100% effective or protective. Who ever claimed otherwise. But you're false claim was masks are useless. And i replied: "Covid is transmitted by droplets which masks block. You conveniently ignored that, or are ignorant of the fact."
As for eye transmission:
"...the evidence so far suggests that eyes are not a primary mode of transmission."
"If a lot of people were being infected through their eyes, there would be more COVID-19 patients with conjunctivitis – inflammation of the eyes, also known as pink eye."
People blink a lot. Also contact lenses, glasses, shields, etc, provide some protection to the eyes from C-19.
"[h=1]Scientific Brief: Community Use of Cloth Masks to Control the Spread of SARS-CoV-2[/h]
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/masking-science-sars-cov2.html
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/masking-science-sars-cov2.html
"New cloth mask kills 99.9 per cent bacteria, viruses in one hour of sunlight, says study
Researchers have developed a reusable cotton face mask that they say can kill up to 99.99 per cent of bacteria and viruses within 60 minutes of daylight exposure.
https://www.indiatvnews.com/health/...ses-in-one-hour-of-sunlight-says-study-664435
Researchers have developed a reusable cotton face mask that they say can kill up to 99.99 per cent of bacteria and viruses within 60 minutes of daylight exposure.
https://www.indiatvnews.com/health/...ses-in-one-hour-of-sunlight-says-study-664435
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Yesterday morning on Fox and Friends, one of the host told a story about his home state of Kansas. In summary he said back in July some cities in Kansas had mask mandates and some didn't. He goes on to say subsequent studies indicted Covid infections decreased substantially in the cities that had mask mandates and increased substantially in the cities that didn't have mask mandates. The good looking blond host sitting between the 2 male hosts comments "that shows blah, blah, blah". Can't remember her comment. The story teller responds "no, apparently masks do work". Yeah they do work, but unfortunately so many people don't think they help in stopping the spread. The misinformation started from Trump and the Un-American right wing leaders and their bucketful of un-American deplorables peddled the misinformation that has led to 10's of thousands of unfortunate deaths and many ridiculous debates about masks. Lets be clear, masks do work and anyone that thinks differently voted for Trump and is an obvious idiot."
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jcpro said:
Sure. Climate change is a real thing. I learned that in gr.3 when they told us about the ice ages. Thanks for a reminder. As for masks. The N95 is designed to stop 95% of anything down to 3 microns. Covid is about 1 micron. ...
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"To bad with those numbers you missed a few important details. First, a virus needs to pass through all those layers without making contact with any fibres. Brownian motion of those small particles makes it very unlikely even ignoring the way that fibres are electostatically polarized to attract particles that would otherwise miss them). More importantly is transmission of covid seems to be primarily in aerosolized droplets which are much larger than 0.3 microns. Nothing is sillier than people who try to use science without having bothered looking into it.Sure. Climate change is a real thing. I learned that in gr.3 when they told us about the ice ages. Thanks for a reminder. As for masks. The N95 is designed to stop 95% of anything down to 3 microns. Covid is about 1 micron. ...
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