Vegas Spread Debate.

[G-Man!]

Aside from all this nonsense from you not understanding point spread development. I want you to pick any game you want and do a write up and analysis and post it. Your choice. College or Pro,

Do something to enable everyone here just to see if you understand what I mean about pointspreads. Instead of criticizing records as a point to reduce my data and history results.

Since You decided my record is your proof that I dont know what Im talking about, - It would be a real pleasure to see you writeup some games and show us what you think is important. Lets see if your record will disprove my points spread data and betting history.

That should be real easy for you. Just make sure you dont buy points, play parlays or play teasers. keep it simple.

My money says you wont do it and disprove anything. Thats why you are a conditioned public gambler.

Please take the floor and do it. Its all yours.
Im offering you the opportunity to do this on the easiest part of the season. The Pro playoffs and the final week of the season. Or do it for Bama/Georgia.
From what Ive seen of you for over two weeks of bashing...you haven't posted ONE PLAY at all anywhere?

Like many bashers - they always end up being Keyboard bad-asses who never can be found...
Best of luck.

 

[DocHolliday]

YOu mean all the nonsense that you posted yesterday?

About vegas-- about how the game would turn out-- only to be dead ass wrong?

Conditioned gambler--- you seem to like that term-----
Dilusional Loser--- thats the term i'll use for you---

You again showed exactly what you know in this thread--- I hope it gets pinned.

Oh and the other dumb stuff your posting challenging me to stuff--- you only do this to take the focus away from you being dead ass 10000000% wrong on every post you made yesterday. You proving to everyone that your data and theories were totally NOT RIGHT yesterday or for that matter the ENTIRE SEASON

The funniest line in your entire post was "your money says" have you seen your picks--- your money is with your bookie or whomever takes your bets.

 

[DocHolliday]

Do something to enable everyone here just to see if you understand what I mean about pointspreads. Instead of criticizing records as a point to reduce my data and history results.

^^ as for that---- why do i care to understand what you mean with your pointspreads?

Your record shows that whatever you THINK you know about vegas and pointspreads is wrong.

I've yet to see anyone on this entire forum or any other forum for that matter speak about vegas and spreads the way you do.... and then I see your record....

but again your the delusional loser--- I'm done trying--- Its clear who won this debate-- its clear who looks like a fool in this thread--- again I hope it gets pinned.

 

[G-Man!]

Just as I said. You wouldn't do it. You got a pile of nothing. Anyone who cant post games is the last person to criticize anyone.

Furthermore Vegas did get KILLED they took bets on Pitt and a 3 points and same as a three point favorite. They couldn't move the masses to "balance the bets as you believe with your conditioned ignorance. They intended to keep The masses on Pitt. They were just wrong that the Browns self destructed all night.
If that wasn't the plans then as you say "they just want even action",,,is bullshit. They got beat on BOTH LINES!

Their line was get for a Cleveland win and it was based on Bens hype and the way they expected cleveland to play in some way like the Packer game a week before. AGAIN. 56% or more was on pit +3 and again -3. Vegas got beat. This is part of point spreads you done under stand.

C'Mon man post a few games and write up some outcomes...Man-Up...just once.

 

[DocHolliday]

Did vegas get killed on that Colts game? What about that Cowboy ML you took.

Heres the thing buddy--- Vegas doesnt always win--- the win some/they lose some. They win in the long term. They play the LONG game.

and YOU--- are the classic delusional loser that VEGAS LOVESSSSSSSSSS

Because last week you went 8-3--- great week-- you posted in 2-3 times for everyone to see-- if you bet a grand on all those games you won 4500.. great damn week

But this week you had a bad week-- 5 wins 10 losses going into monday night--- should be around a -6000 loss--- but noooo the way you bet with the money lines and buying points-- then you DOUBLED up on your Monday night game and lost even more.

So you are what vegas loves--- you have a good week--- you think your great and you've got it figured out--- you win a little money. Then the very next week vegas CLAWS back and you lose everything you won back and then some. AND then you compounded your losses by making dumb stupid bets.

You are the PERFECT version of this
1K bet on every game
Last week--- +4700
This week--- -11000

All season long--- you are a damn ATM machine for vegas and sportsbooks--- its been proven

 

[DocHolliday]

So as I've said--- NO ONE is going to change your mind about your lines/data/all that crap you speak about. NO ONE. Its pointless to have a debate about:

Here's what I do know 10000000000000%

1) Youve made 2 bold predictions about things that VEGAS would not allow happen this season in the NFL based on what it is you know that no one else does-- you missed both these games in a big way-- you were actually nowhere close on either

2) Your posted record this year in CFB and NFL football---- results in you being a HUGE loser--- in both sports--- and i mean HUGE


So I'll use deductive reasoning and say--- IF you do know that much about vegas and how it works--- I would expect the results of points 1 and 2 above to be glaring different than they are.


Its like going to a blackjack table, hearing someone spout some crazy BS-- then watching them someone lose piles of money-- hardly win a hand------- You'd be a fool to think that person knows anything at all-----

Lucky for me I guess-- I'm not that fool
Unlucky for you--- You are the idiot playing blackjack in the above example

 

[G-Man!]

You are the PERFECT version of this
1K bet on every game
Last week--- +4700
This week--- -11000

All season long--- you are a damn ATM machine for vegas and sportsbooks--- its been proven

Im the perfect version of what I do now also. Try 24-9 in bowl games- right now #1 on this site. .
Added your way at 1k per play thats 14K and more coming every week. You could only know what you think you know. You have nothing,
As soon as a big game doest get bet on evenly, right away you say that Vegas loses sometimes.
WELL! Based on tour theory about them being so perfect at balancing the action they tried but couldst do it.
My Point is that they purposely didnt want it balanced. Its there consistently all year long where they have that advantage you could never see or know about because of conditioning.
This season and last al lot of outcomes were ruined by Covid players being out. If you dont understand that then you can never understand why winning is so difficult.

But they didnt want the action balanced is my point. AGAIN They wanted all the masse on Pittsburgh which again proves my data correct.

They were not wrong in creating the movement they wanted which was the mass on Pitt, They were screwed by the poor play of the Browns.

If the Browns would have won, then you would have another excuse why they got all the people on the right side to lose.

Man give it up. My quote about vegas not getting middled is 100 % true. They try to make sure it doesnt happen. In each game they did. But not because they were wrong in achieving it, but just because the team radically was underachieving.
Thats all.

 

[scrawnybets]

The red flag isnt red for Vegas.
They're still taking action. They already gave up 3 points to Pittsburgh all week and then last night they are now giving 3 to Cleveland.
In BOTH circumstances with both lines, the public still bet Pittsburgh all week as a dog and tonight they are still on Pittsburgh as a favorite.. They will win both sides of this bet with Cleveland winning by 4 or more. It will happen.

Eh

 

[DocHolliday]

Im the perfect version of what I do now also. Try 24-9 in bowl games- right now #1 on this site. .
Added your way at 1k per play thats 14K and more coming every week. You could only know what you think you know. You have nothing,
As soon as a big game doest get bet on evenly, right away you say that Vegas loses sometimes.
WELL! Based on tour theory about them being so perfect at balancing the action they tried but couldst do it.
My Point is that they purposely didnt want it balanced. Its there consistently all year long where they have that advantage you could never see or know about because of conditioning.
This season and last al lot of outcomes were ruined by Covid players being out. If you dont understand that then you can never understand why winning is so difficult.

But they didnt want the action balanced is my point. AGAIN They wanted all the masse on Pittsburgh which again proves my data correct.

They were not wrong in creating the movement they wanted which was the mass on Pitt, They were screwed by the poor play of the Browns.

If the Browns would have won, then you would have another excuse why they got all the people on the right side to lose.

Man give it up. My quote about vegas not getting middled is 100 % true. They try to make sure it doesnt happen. In each game they did. But not because they were wrong in achieving it, but just because the team radically was underachieving.
Thats all.

yes you got hot during bowl season. You are quick to remind people of this… but doesn’t it suck to be that good during bowl season yet still be down to your bookie for double what you won’t during the bowls?

Also again you claim your 24-9 makes you up 14k. You should be but you lost some ML and bought some points so your not up as much as you should be, again giving some of that edge to Vegas that they like when delusional losers bet they way they do.

but by the looks of your post again, it’s impossible to change your mind. So I’ll leave it be…… however

it seems like again the excuse of a delusional gambler, the only reason you are losing is because of covid and bad luck I guess.

but I’ll again ask you one last question: the vegas sports books are up this football season, like they are most every football season. If you know so much about vegas, what side they want to win by your data, they why are you down? Why have you consistently been on the wrong side all year long? Vegas has managed to book wins throughout covid, if they couldn’t, they’d bitch about it and shut it down. Why hasn’t the great G-man who knows more than anyone around about lines and what Vegas is trying to do won, because vegas sure has.

Such a delusional loser

 

[DocHolliday]

Also buddy

you act like this MNF game was this biggest loss in Vegas history. 56% which I’m sure it wasn’t that high because there was plenty of Cleveland action early in the week…. Doesn’t kill Vegas.

Vegas lost that game but won plenty this week with the cowboy outright loss (which you were on) the colts outright loss (again you were on) killed many teasers—— and the dumb bets (you lost on these too with your money line plays) and the built in juice (you pay more than most by buying points)

but again if you know so much and you know Vegas— why are they up and you down? I’ll use your words…. Don’t avoid the question

 

[BigLouReturns]

I'll say this:

the ONLY reason why i even said anything is because you spent the better part of a day, posting in your own and multiple other threads telling EVERYONE that the Raiders/Brown game would NEVER end up a 3 point game. That vegas would not allow it because they would lose too much money.

^^^^^ That is exactly what happened

When I brought up points, you acted like a 1st class A$$hole... so then and ONLY then did i look up your record--- which again i'll post here for everyone to know---

in CFB and NFL--- the G-Man is down about 5000 bucks for a 100 bettor (50 units), a dime bettor would be down over 50 grand. So of course we have to consider our source when posts like this are made.

Finally... and I'll stand by this:

No one that makes money sports betting bets the way you do. Sharps/Pros/Successful Gamblers do not bet an entire board of NFL games and 20 plus games on a CFB weekend.

It is FACTS, not BS you post, but FACTS that vegas has a substantial advantage on ML bets in Football and Basketball. You bet them all the time. Its also facts that vegas it is a losing proposition to buy points period. If it was a winning proposition, why would vegas allow you to do it... yet you do this ALL the time too.

It's all I'll post on this thread. Anyone that thinks this guy knows anything about vegas and how it works, then so be it. But i'll say again someone that knows so much, should certainly make money, not lose it, and anyone can spend about 30 mins look up your post history and see.... you dont win.

Bumping this since Gman bashed me in the first post.

 

[G-Man!]

Bumping this since Gman bashed me in the first post.

You shit in Flavas threads for no reason. Just like this guy did in mine. Thats why this thread was created - to keep morons from doing that in threads were it doesnt belong. Lucky for you Lou - that Flava didnt report you, to have you blocked...

 

[BigLouReturns]

Lucky Lou!

 

[brendanjack]

lucky Lou pats rams Super Bowl that was a cash cow

 

[BigLouReturns]

lucky Lou pats rams Super Bowl that was a cash cow

That pick was not luck.

 

[brendanjack]

That pick was not luck.

I never said it was bro. Oh I called you lucky Lou I got it . Not what I meant I was implying that was a great year that’s all