Obama and Kerry should be tried for Treason for the Iran deal and should face the death penalty. It is criminal that are still negotiating with Iran to both release their frozen funds to allow them to get nuclear weapons. Death to America still reigns in Iran.
I have to agree with this.
There's nothing wrong with trying to go about it in a peaceful manner, trying to reason, especially when you are fearful of your lives in such a situation.
I love the fact that this is outside of military protocol doesn't bother you in the least.
You have no idea, literally none, if what he did was "disloyal" as you are too busy being unable to understand the ramifications of this.
Watching people like you, and you are on record saying you would dodge the draft and run to Canada, pretend to care about the lives or well being of US Military personnel, is revolting.
I try to stay away from Political stuff as much as I can. But if you really think, if Allowed to run for a 3rd Term, that he would be Elected Again... I would have to 100% disagree with that.
His BS worked the 1st time because Yes, people wanted, Needed Change.
In the 2nd Round he used the " Didn't have enough Time to Fully change it All "
What would his excuse for a 3rd term ??
Sorry to say but he will go down as one of the Worst Presidents we ever had. and his Numbers say a lot about that.
and has destroyed his Party. So much so that No Dem wants to piggyback off of him.
Ok, now that I got the Political shit out of the way.
again NO, this is not the military protocol when something like this happens. More so on VIDEO for ALL to see.
What was the need to film it and put it on TV ?
and sure I want our Men to come home safe and sound.
But it shouldn't have been to the point to make it look like We are Weak.
The apology could have been done Behind Closed doors.
Not even close. Another dem wouldn't even challenge a sitting president in a primary these days.
Take a look at the electoral map......repubs would have to win Ohio.....which they prob wouldn't.....as well other states would likely stay blue. Unless they dig up Reagan and go Weekend at Bernies sunglasses......they don't have a candidate capable of changing states to red.
You need to stop hanging from Obama's nut sack, and stop believing what you post. It's over for him and the Dems. Didn't you see the change over in the House and senate
They are tried of him and HIS policies. Didn't the People send Him and his party a Message ....
Ok, I'm done with the Poli crap now...
Let's talk about this Horrible show of weakness
It was a pathetic act by Iran.
From their perspective, given the US has crippled them with long standing economic sanctions, they took this opportunity to humiliate they hated foe. 'hey rest of the world, take a look at these pictures, look at the powerful USA military....captain speak into the mic, do so with a smile' ...................I guess their hatred runs a bit deep? If Iran truly wants to start a new chapter, seeks peace, they apologize, pick up the phone and dial. Don't hold your breath
Obama has been an average president, not sure that means hanging from his nut sack but you really don't know what you're talking about. Dems lost by historic margin in 2010 and he still won in 2012.....so that comparison doesn't work. You need a good candidate to defeat a sitting president. Bush was an outright disaster but he won re-election by scaring voters, lying and the dems had a bad candidate in John Kerry. Obama would win again and it would be by similar margins.
The Iranians clearly tried to embarrass the United States and I have no idea what those guys were doing but it ended peacefully, but the humiliation part was bad. Not sure what you want Obama or United States to do about it though.
VD, that is correct. Those boats are well equipped and well armed (at least a .50 cal on the bow plus other small arms). There were 2 boats, so I have no clue how they lost communications.
Also, there are US patrol boats in the Persian Gulf, they are called Patrol Forces Southwest Asia (PATFORSWA). There are 4 Navy ships and 6 Coast Guard Cutters that make up PATFORSWA, not all 10 are patrolling at once but I'm sure there was one nearby.
The mission over there has changed since I deployed, so I'm not sure why or where those Riverine boats were going or what they were doing. But to lose Comm's like that is unusual and GPS as well.
Ace, you are correct here. It doesn't matter that "diplomacy won", as those w/ little knowledge of military protocol have stated. The military has protocols and they are to be followed. We still don't know why the LT talked, but it appears on the surface he may have violated his duties (also, for those that don't know, he was not the "Commanding Officer". He was simply the senior military member on those boats, probably the only officer - the remainder were likely petty officers or seaman).
Personally, I am happy it ended w/ the return of the sailors. However, the comments here that support the way the LT handled the situation show how little the general public knows about how our military & government are run. It's very similar to those who think it's okay the way Hilary handled her CLASSIFIED emails and those who think there is nothing wrong with what Brad Manning and Ed Snowden did.
I have a TS clearance and if I did what Clinton did I'd be in jail and that is undeniable. At a MINIMUM I would have lost my clearance which would have caused me to lose my job.....which leads to the question, How can Hilary Clinton be POTUS if she is not eligible for a SECRET or TS Clearance? How can she receive national security briefings w/ no clearance?
But, the general public sees these things and their first thought is "Oh, that's cool...no one died so it's all fine." (in regards to the Iran incident). Or w/ Snowden and Manning, "They are heroes!! They are whistle blowers!" They are traitors and they potentially cost US service members their lives. Snowden alone cost the US years and years of intelligence gathering, not only costing millions and millions of dollars and hard work, but cost us invaluable intelligence...which again, could cost lives. It's unbelievable how stupid the general public is on these issues.
