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wrong. less regulations, economy booming, more productive businesses, more productive schools and better teachers resulting in better students who in turn will be better adults and create better jobs. It goes on and on and on.

You're just dreaming. In reality, you would get depression, a plutocracy, and turn this country in to a 3rd world country in no time. But since smart people understand that it would destroy the country they will bend only so far. As long as we are 0-2% growth, they will continue bickering. But if we sink back in to a recession, guarantee you the Republican economists will admit that we need to increase spending and hire people.

It's mathematics man. It's not some dream world that you've created in your head.
 

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Your crackpot theories only work on paper in academia (and Karl Marx mommy's basement) where they are safe from real-world scrutiny.

Unfortunately for you the data is really not on your side. Sorry bud! But maybe if you think it hard enough it will make it true!

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You're just dreaming. In reality, you would get depression, a plutocracy, and turn this country in to a 3rd world country in no time. But since smart people understand that it would destroy the country they will bend only so far. As long as we are 0-2% growth, they will continue bickering. But if we sink back in to a recession, guarantee you the Republican economists will admit that we need to increase spending and hire people.

It's mathematics man. It's not some dream world that you've created in your head.

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The thing that is so strange about Republicans is they are willing to hire millions of people to fight wars and blow shit up... but aren't willing to hire millions of people to build our infrastructure and educate our children.

And the funniest thing is they have convinced themselves that military spending is different than any other spending.

Just hilarious and completely defies mathematics.
 

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You're just dreaming. In reality, you would get depression, a plutocracy, and turn this country in to a 3rd world country in no time. But since smart people understand that it would destroy the country they will bend only so far. As long as we are 0-2% growth, they will continue bickering. But if we sink back in to a recession, guarantee you the Republican economists will admit that we need to increase spending and hire people.

It's mathematics man. It's not some dream world that you've created in your head.


how much do you want government in your life? They are supposed to help the needy like the elderly and poor etc. Not the clueless and the lazy. Right? Why do kids need a permit to sell lemon-aid nowadays?

How are government run schools doing the last ohhhhh 30 years? Where did the 800 billion stimulus go? You remember all those shovel ready jobs.

How big does the IRS need to be? What about a flat tax for everyone? They have been talking about it forever. You earn X amount, you take off 15% tax and send in a check. You add a tax on goods and services of 3% on everything lets say. This way the hookers of the world and anyone that works under the table will pay 3% on everything from a can of coke to a car. Pay as you go. Simple. Tons of money will be collected to help people who truly need it.

There are dozens more examples. Bottom line, people like you sell your fellow man short. You want to be controlled and regulated up the ying yang.

More government is insane. It has never worked and will never work.
 
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Yeah man, can't get enough big government... Look what it's done for California!!! Oh wait, California cities are going bankrupt, never mind.


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AK, people who understand are Bees. People who don't are Wasps ......
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how much do you want government in your life?
It's not how much government I want in my life... it's how much government I want to make the economy more efficient. A good economy makes me have more chances of making money. So even if I'm not getting paid by the government, their actions do affect a lot of people indirectly. And I believe that is the best thing for the country. Do I like tons of degenerates who have no skills that are lazy getting paid food stamps or welfare when they can work? Personally, absolutely not, but economically, yes... it provides for a more productive economy than having them starve or be slave laborers.

They are supposed to help the needy like the elderly and poor etc. Not the clueless and the lazy. Right?
My economics beliefs are not about my opinions on who they should help out. It's about economic efficiency. And mathematically, supported by data and empirical evidence, the economy works best when more people are participating. And by participating I mean those poor lazy fucks are purchasing goods and services and providing income and profit to real workers like ourselves.

Why do kids need a permit to sell lemon-aid nowadays?
Have never heard of that and not sure how that applies to the convo.

How are government run schools doing the last ohhhhh 30 years?
On average not good. But doesn't mean taking government schools away we would become smarter, lol. We have a lot of dumb people in this country. There is no denying that. But government run schools have done perfectly fine for millions of students.

Where did the 800 billion stimulus go? You remember all those shovel ready jobs.
Only a 1/3rd of the stimulus went to shovel ready jobs. And the money is still in the economy. Doesn't disappear. And majority of ivy league economists agree that the stimulus worked to make unemployment lower. We are talking about a $3 trillion hole being fixed with $300 billion for jobs? Not really mathematically efficient.

How big does the IRS need to be? What about a flat tax for everyone? They have been talking about it forever. You earn X amount, you take off 15% tax and send in a check. You add a tax on goods and services of 3% on everything lets say. This way the hookers of the world and anyone that works under the table will pay 3% on everything from a can of coke to a car. Pay as you go. Simple.
Will never happen. And a solution that would not fix anything. The tax code is not our problem. Taxes are no different then an expense. The only difference is it's an expense that you do not like. You can make the tax rate 0% and we would run in to the same mathematical problems of how to make the economy grow sustainably.

There are dozens more examples. Bottom line, people like you sell your fellow man short. You want to be controlled and regulated up the ying yang. More government is insane.
We do not at all. Our theories are based on an effective and productive economy which helps the majority of people out. You might not rely on the government for money directly, but we are all indirectly effected by government spending. Money doesn't just disappear. Mathematically, the private sectors savings is the governments debt. The less government debt you have, the less savings the private sector has. It's not as easy as you think. There are some very complex factors that you are not acknowledging in your theory.
 

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Do I like tons of degenerates who have no skills that are lazy getting paid food stamps or welfare when they can work? Personally, absolutely not, but economically, yes... it provides for a more productive economy than having them starve or be slave laborers.

"Unemployment checks fastest way to create jobs" - Nancy Pelosi

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You're hopeless.

Demand creates jobs, not supply. I mean in an ideal economy you don't want to be dependent on unemployment checks, but when you suffer a significant economic loss, they do help create jobs.

Which is why they do it and people who are against it post on conservative blogs.
 

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It's not how much government I want in my life... it's how much government I want to make the economy more efficient. A good economy makes me have more chances of making money. So even if I'm not getting paid by the government, their actions do affect a lot of people indirectly. And I believe that is the best thing for the country. Do I like tons of degenerates who have no skills that are lazy getting paid food stamps or welfare when they can work? Personally, absolutely not, but economically, yes... it provides for a more productive economy than having them starve or be slave laborers.


My economics beliefs are not about my opinions on who they should help out. It's about economic efficiency. And mathematically, supported by data and empirical evidence, the economy works best when more people are participating. And by participating I mean those poor lazy fucks are purchasing goods and services and providing income and profit to real workers like ourselves.


Have never heard of that and not sure how that applies to the convo.


On average not good. But doesn't mean taking government schools away we would become smarter, lol. We have a lot of dumb people in this country. There is no denying that. But government run schools have done perfectly fine for millions of students.


Only a 1/3rd of the stimulus went to shovel ready jobs. And the money is still in the economy. Doesn't disappear. And majority of ivy league economists agree that the stimulus worked to make unemployment lower. We are talking about a $3 trillion hole being fixed with $300 billion for jobs? Not really mathematically efficient.


Will never happen. And a solution that would not fix anything. The tax code is not our problem. Taxes are no different then an expense. The only difference is it's an expense that you do not like. You can make the tax rate 0% and we would run in to the same mathematical problems of how to make the economy grow sustainably.


We do not at all. Our theories are based on an effective and productive economy which helps the majority of people out. You might not rely on the government for money directly, but we are all indirectly effected by government spending. Money doesn't just disappear. Mathematically, the private sectors savings is the governments debt. The less government debt you have, the less savings the private sector has. It's not as easy as you think. There are some very complex factors that you are not acknowledging in your theory.


maybe it is easy. easier than you guys think. why complicate shit so much? Its the government's job to grow the economy. Its their duty and the people's employee to create a place when people can do business.

Teachers in government unions are almost impossible to fired but are allowed to "teach". Private schools are blowing them away. Look it up.

Kids need permits now to sell lemon aid. Look it up. I mean WTF??? Ya why the hell would government care? Government is a disease.

The stimulus was a waste of everyone's money. It did nothing except pay off bankers and political favors for Obama like solyndra and many more. What joke. They should go to jail for that money they stole from the people.

AK, when you grow up were you always told what you can do? I mean when you weren't a boy anymore.
 

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amazing. I ain't going to call you dumb but I am struggling to come up with another word that fits.

I would not take offense if you called me dumb. Your belief system is backed by no math, no data, no empirical research... you literally just believe what you want to believe. So I would be afraid if you didn't think I was dumb, because I would never want to be associated with people who think like you and Sheriff Joe.
 

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Demand creates jobs, not supply. I mean in an ideal economy you don't want to be dependent on unemployment checks, but when you suffer a significant economic loss, they do help create jobs.

Which is why they do it and people who are against it post on conservative blogs.

Garbage.

In the real world, production must precede consumption. It is necessary to produce useful goods that can be exchanged for other goods. Sprinkling your Keynesian fairy dust all over the economy and expecting an increase in productivity is laughable.

When a baker produces bread, he doesn't produce everything for his own consumption. Most of the bread he produces is exchanged for other products, meaning he uses his 'excess' bread to exercise his own demand for other goods. In other words, his own demand is fully covered by the bread he produces.

Demand is not an independent 'thing'...it is merely part of the economic process of securing other goods and services.

Human productivity, ingenuity and entrepreneurship creates wealth...not your stupid half-baked left wing theories.

If you understood economics (starting with barter) you'd understand all this.

But because you're a slave to unproven academics who don't know any better, AND because you collect a paycheck rather than assume any real risk in your daily life, ie. running a business, meeting payroll etc., you continue to believe in this Big Government Keynesian nonsense.
 

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maybe it is easy. easier than you guys think. why complicate shit so much? Its the government's job to grow the economy. Its their duty and the people's employee to create a place when people can do business.
Because it is complicated. You guys aren't very intelligent in regards to economics which makes you think it is so easy. Even though your solutions would destroy the country you still believe they would work, lol. That's why no developed country in the entire world uses your theories.

Teachers in government unions are almost impossible to fired but are allowed to "teach". Private schools are blowing them away. Look it up.
Govt is not there to compete with private schools, it's to give public education to ensure every child has access to education. Of course private schools are better than public schools. There is no logical reason why they wouldn't be.

Kids need permits now to sell lemon aid. Look it up. I mean WTF??? Ya why the hell would government care? Government is a disease.
Something I really do not care about

The stimulus was a waste of everyone's money. It did nothing except pay off bankers and political favors for Obama like solyndra and many more. What joke. They should go to jail for that money they stole from the people.
If I had a choice to select ivy league economists opinions or yours, I would go with the ivy leaguers. No offense.

AK, when you grow up were you always told what you can do? I mean when you weren't a boy anymore.
I'm not asking the government to tell me what to do. I'm asking the government to make actions that make our economy more efficient.

Your goal is not economic efficiency. It's purely a philosophical goal. Which is why no one takes it seriously in the developed world.
 

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Garbage.

In the real world, production must precede consumption. It is necessary to produce useful goods that can be exchanged for other goods. Sprinkling your Keynesian fairy dust all over the economy and expecting an increase in productivity is laughable.
Lol, so companies just randomly produce quantities of goods and services and has nothing to do with demand for those goods and services? Sounds very logical. You should go build

When a baker produces bread, he doesn't produce everything for his own consumption. Most of the bread he produces is exchanged for other products, meaning he uses his 'excess' bread to exercise his own demand for other goods. In other words, his own demand is fully covered by the bread he produces.
How much bread should the baker produce?

Demand is not an independent 'thing'...it is merely part of the economic process of securing other goods and services.
Yes, it is apart of the economic process.

Human productivity, ingenuity and entrepreneurship creates wealth...not your stupid half-baked left wing theories.

If you understood economics (starting with barter) you'd understand all this.
My theories enhance human productivity, ingenuity, and entrepreneurship. Which is why every developed country uses them.

But because you're a slave to unproven academics who don't know any better, AND because you collect a paycheck rather than assume any real risk in your daily life, ie. running a business, meeting payroll etc., you continue to believe in this Big Government Keynesian nonsense.

Lol, so owning a business is the only meaningful role in America? Got it.
 

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