Uganda's gays face life in jail: Country's president says he intends to sign bill after 'medical experts' tell him homosexuality 'is a social behaviou

[Acebb]

A Ugandan tabloid has named the country's "200 top homosexuals", a day after President Yoweri Museveni signed into law a bill toughening penalties for gay people.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-26338941

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[Dave007inVegas]

It’s a world wide conspiracy to have all gays immigrate to the U.S.

Scott, here’s what you missed.

There is no pride in Gayville.

 

[hehateme82]

 

[hehateme82]

 

[festeringZit]

"Conversion" doesn't really change anything, IMO. You are what you are, what turns you on, turns you on, and you're born that way.
No one chooses to be gay. Why would anyone willingly choose a path that the overwhelmingly large majority of society ridicules? You think those who are threatened with their life in Russia, or Uganda, or Muslim Countries, Choose to invite death? Therapy makes you think you've buried feelings, and some people can fool themselves. Some people may be born Bi and are able to bury their gay side with therapy?
Please provide Medical PROOF that shows people choose to be gay.

Guesser,

There are zillions of cases that totally disprove the blather above. Why don't you think critically for a second.

Here's just one example. Anne Heche stated on the Oprah show that she never had a friggen gay thought in her whole life until
she met Ellen Degenerate.

Heche contended on "The Oprah Winfrey Show" in 1997: "I was not gay before I met [Ellen.] It wasn't immediately a sexual attraction."

http://www.hollywood.com/static/celebrity-breakups-ellen-degeneres--anne-heche

Here's another stat for you to think about. There is a huge correlation between being molested as a child, and identifying as gay:

There is indeed a clear disparity between homosexual men and heterosexual men and child sexual abuse. Using a non-clinical population of 465, Tomeo et al. found that 46 pe cent of the gay men reported being sexually abused as children compared to 7 percent of the matched heterosexual men. (15) What’s intriguing is that 68 percent of the homosexual men did not identify as homosexual until after the abuse. Earlier research by Johnson and Shrier concluded that boys who had been sexually abused are 7 times more likely to identify as homosexual or bisexual than their heterosexual counterparts. Even more intriguing is that Friedman noted that the boys who later identified as heterosexual had a mean average of 15.7 as the time of their first sexual experience. For the boy who later identified as homosexual, the mean average was 12.7. (16)

http://www.citizenlink.com/2010/06/17/childhood-sexual-abuse-and-male-homosexuality/


So, for the non-critical thinkers, you're born gay, but you only figure it out if you've been molested as a child? WTF?

Stop swallowing the PC media bullshit, and start thinking for yourselves.

Yeah, I know:

If you're straight and you decide to turn gay, well then you were gay all along.
If you're gay and you decide to go straight, well then you are still fucking gay.

 

[JDeuce]

Please provide medical PROOF showing being gay is innate.

And that was my point. Neither side can prove it scientifically, yet dimocraps can't wait to tell everyone they're born that way and present it as fact.

So since neither side can prove their case, all we have to go on is evidence of whether people can change their sexual preferences. Plenty of people have done so, which would be impossible if they were truly born that way.

Human sexuality is a complex issue, but this conclusion seems pretty simple and straight forward to me.

 

[festeringZit]

Sociologist Steven Goldberg, Ph.D. states,

Virtually all of the evidence argues against there being a determinative physiological causal factor and I know of no researcher who believes that such a determinative factor exists...such factors play a predisposing, not a determinative role...I know of no one in the field who argues that homosexuality can be explained without reference to environmental factors.​

Goldberg also expressed, "Gay criticism has not addressed the classic family configuration"; it has merely "asserted away the considerable evidence" for the existence of family factors. Studies which attempt to disprove the existence of the classic family pattern in homosexuality are "convincing only to those with a need to believe."
Psychiatrists Friedman and Downey: "Despite recent neurobiological findings suggesting homosexuality is genetically-biologically determined, credible evidence is lacking for a biological model of homosexuality."
Psychiatrist and author Jeffrey Satinover, M.D. concludes,

Like all complex behavioral and mental states, homosexuality is...neither exclusively biological nor exclusively psychological, but results from an as-yet-difficult-to-quantitate mixture of genetic factors, intrauterine influences...postnatal environment (such as parent, sibling and cultural behavior), and a complex series of repeatedly reinforced choices occurring at critical phases of development.
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Drs. William Byne and Bruce Parsons, researchers at the New York State Psychiatric Institute,having carefully analyzed all the major biological studies of homosexuality, found none that definitively supported a biological theory of causation. "Human Sexual Orientation: The Biologic Theories Reappraised." Archives of General Psychiatry 50, no.3. (1993)
Other similarly express that nurture and choice factor as being mostly or wholly determinative.

 

[JudgeWapner]

It's bullshit to use the bible to support anti-gay rhetoric. Sure there passages against. But very few. A lot more condemnation of adulterers and coveters of oxen and the greedy. So why is the focus not on these sins? Gays aren't even addressed in the 10 commandments. How important can the issue be to God if he didn't even put it in the top 10. And let us not forget the message of tolerance given to us by Jesus. A couple of references trump this message????? I don't think so. You guys want to hate, go ahead. It is certainly your prerogative. No need to try to support it through the Christian religion. And God spoke to me last night and told me you guys are full of shit.

 

[JudgeWapner]

We're all sinners in some form or another. Nobody should be casting stones.

 

[JudgeWapner]

I think business should have the right to discriminate against the greedy. Who is with me??

 

[JudgeWapner]

And those mfing cheat people and the abusive. We should take away their basic rights!!!!!

 

[MantisToboggan]

I guess I'm about to make a lot of enemies in here but I don't give a Fuck. All one has to do is look up at the title of the thread. And all you Intolerant Assholes who believe gays either deserve this treatment, are born that way, can be "repaired" (sic), or deserve ridicule based upon a book my religion wrote that your religion remixed (and I don't care what the Old Testament says either!), or for any reason are not entitled to anything the rest of us are..... can collectively Go Fuck Yourselves! Fuck Bigotry! That's a disease, not Homosexuality. Are you Fucktards are the ones who are infected!

Quite the intolerant rant on "intolerance".

 

[JudgeWapner]

For anyone who cares, this page sums up my view of what Christian values really are. Just my opinion. http://www.christianbiblereference.org/faq_ChristianValues.htm

 

[Acebb]

And that was my point. Neither side can prove it scientifically, yet dimocraps can't wait to tell everyone they're born that way and present it as fact.

So since neither side can prove their case, all we have to go on is evidence of whether people can change their sexual preferences. Plenty of people have done so, which would be impossible if they were truly born that way.

Human sexuality is a complex issue, but this conclusion seems pretty simple and straight forward to me.

I agree.

Sure it is possible that someone, somewhere at some time, was born gay.

But I don't think these leftists are really adding anything to any discussion on "gay rights" by saying that, they're actually trying to avoid honest debate by insisting so.

 

[hehateme82]

And those mfing cheat people and the abusive. We should take away their basic rights!!!!!

who is taking away the basic rights of the gays? Some argue that marriage should stay between a man and woman, however I wouldn't exactly call that taking away their basic human rights.

 

[festeringZit]

who is taking away the basic rights of the gays? Some argue that marriage should stay between a man and woman, however I wouldn't exactly call that taking away their basic human rights.

Bingo.

 

[JudgeWapner]

Ok, but why are we even discussing gays instead of the greedy. How can Arizona pretend it's about religion if someone chooses not to serve a gay couple. If I owned a restaurant and I chose not to serve the greedy, my ass would get sued sure as shit. Like I said, you want to be anti-gay, fine. Don't mask it in Christianity. You can't take a couple of passages from the bible, and ignore the doctrine of Christianity.

 

[JudgeWapner]

And I'm sorry. I think being denied a service, is in fact being denied your basic rights as an American and a human. I speak more to the Arizona law than I do gay marriage.

 

[JudgeWapner]

If I'm a photographer and I don't want to take photos of a gay wedding, I simply tell the couple I am already booked. Seems pretty simple.

 

[BleedingPurple]

Have not been to site for a while and now I will only stick to sports forums. I really can't believe the hatred people have. I find it amazing people bitch about rights being taken away but have no problem keeping rights from others. Psychology classes I have studied suggest homosexuality is genetic. If I did not answer the test question that way, I got the answer wrong. I didn't choose to like women, it just happened, I never had a thought of, "should I be gay today?" or had homosexual thoughts, it was just the way it is. Are there some people who choose to be gay? I am sure there are, and really why should I give a shit if they do? I have worked with some great gay people and some real assholes as well, just like any other part of the population, I just can't believe people have the opinions they do but it is what it is and I will spend my time reading about the draft than this bullshit.