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I'm sure you approved when Jackie Robinson wasn't allowed to eat in the same Restaurant as his teammates. :ohno:

Completely different and very insulting to minorities. Last I checked, people weren't given the option of what race or gender they were born into upon entering the world.

However, there have been stories of former gays who are no longer gay after undergoing therapy. How can that be explained? Even one conversion completely shatters the illusion that "people are just born gay" ... because if that were true, it'd be impossible to convert anyone. Hence, that's why the left relentlessly pushes the "born that way" propaganda despite proof that isn't the case.

Remember what Hitler said about the Big Lie?
 

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I'm sure you approved when Jackie Robinson wasn't allowed to eat in the same Restaurant as his teammates. :ohno:

Restaurants discriminate all the time - it's their right.

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The Yankees have a no facial hair policy - it's their right.

Not all discrimination is bad.

Gays are rightly discriminated against because of their vile disgusting behavior.

As for Jackie Robinson, he "broke the color barrier" because the kid could flat out play baseball - performance is the ONLY thing that matters.

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
 

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Now you're using king, another one who would find your discrimination vile disgusting behavior.

You think if King, were he alive today would not be a proponent of gay rights?
 

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Completely different and very insulting to minorities. Last I checked, people weren't given the option of what race or gender they were born into upon entering the world.

However, there have been stories of former gays who are no longer gay after undergoing therapy. How can that be explained? Even one conversion completely shatters the illusion that "people are just born gay" ... because if that were true, it'd be impossible to convert anyone. Hence, that's why the left relentlessly pushes the "born that way" propaganda despite proof that isn't the case.

Remember what Hitler said about the Big Lie?

"Conversion" doesn't really change anything, IMO. You are what you are, what turns you on, turns you on, and you're born that way.
No one chooses to be gay. Why would anyone willingly choose a path that the overwhelmingly large majority of society ridicules? You think those who are threatened with their life in Russia, or Uganda, or Muslim Countries, Choose to invite death? Therapy makes you think you've buried feelings, and some people can fool themselves. Some people may be born Bi and are able to bury their gay side with therapy?
Please provide Medical PROOF that shows people choose to be gay.
 

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Restaurants discriminate all the time - it's their right.

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The Yankees have a no facial hair policy - it's their right.

Not all discrimination is bad.

Gays are rightly discriminated against because of their vile disgusting behavior.

As for Jackie Robinson, he "broke the color barrier" because the kid could flat out play baseball - performance is the ONLY thing that matters.

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

Dress Codes, or appearance rules are hardly on the same planet as discriminating against a race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation. Jackie was a great player, but he couldn't eat at the same restauarant as his teammates. That's OK in your book??? Don't divert, answer the question.
 

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Now you're using king, another one who would find your discrimination vile disgusting behavior.

You think if King, were he alive today would not be a proponent of gay rights?

Umm, King was a Baptist Minister.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Don't you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people-none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God. Some of you were once like that. But you were cleansed; you were made holy; you were made right with God by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

1 Timothy 1:8-10
Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine ...


Jude 7

And don't forget Sodom and Gomorrah and their neighboring towns, which were filled with immorality and every kind of sexual perversion. Those cities were destroyed by fire and serve as a warning of the eternal fire of God's judgment.

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Gay "rights" :ohno:

We may as well forget the rest of the Bible and go straight to the Book of Revelation.
 

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Great, Bible Quotes. I'm convinced now. Lock them up and throw away the key!!!
 

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"Conversion" doesn't really change anything, IMO. You are what you are, what turns you on, turns you on, and you're born that way.
No one chooses to be gay. Why would anyone willingly choose a path that the overwhelmingly large majority of society ridicules? You think those who are threatened with their life in Russia, or Uganda, or Muslim Countries, Choose to invite death? Therapy makes you think you've buried feelings, and some people can fool themselves. Some people may be born Bi and are able to bury their gay side with therapy?
Please provide Medical PROOF that shows people choose to be gay.


Conversion doesn't change anything? Now that's interesting. Do you have a psychology degree? Apparently, you've got this all figured out.

You might want to ask those who have actually undergone conversion how well it works.

http://www.peoplecanchange.com/stories/

Gays are ridiculed? Are you freaking kidding me? I thought some guy named Michael Sam cured cancer a few weeks ago with how he was revered in the media...all the sports journalists were tripping over themselves to go out of their way to point out how courageous they thought he was. You can't flip through a channel guide on your TV without finding some queer eye for straight guy type program on what seems like every night. Ridiculed, my ass...they are revered.

Anyhow, guess what? Sam coming out wasn't a courageous move. Courage requires taking some sort of risk to achieve something great. So Sam told the world that he likes to take it up the tailpipe...big fucking deal. Did anything change since then? What's so great about it? Or was it nothing more than some thinly-veiled PR stunt? I'd also bet any amount of money that not every single one of his Mizzou teammates just couldn't wait to smother Sam in kisses and gush about how delirious they were to have a homo at OLB. There's almost zero chance that media portrayal was accurate. Off the record, you'd hear a different story from some of the players.

Oh, btw...since you assert that therapy never works, then I assume you are in favor of the death penalty for violent crimes? After all, therapy won't do any good...so why keep them around?
 

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Dress Codes, or appearance rules are hardly on the same planet as discriminating against a race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation. Jackie was a great player, but he couldn't eat at the same restauarant as his teammates. That's OK in your book??? Don't divert, answer the question.

"sexual orientation" - pass the barf bag.

Hey lib, guess what?

Your fictitious gay "rights" movement is in direct conflict with the second item on your list - religion. Specifically, religious freedom and the First Amendment.

Christian Photog Who Refused to Shoot Gay Wedding Finds Widespread Support

http://www.charismanews.com/us/42149-christian-photog-who-refused-to-shoot-gay-wedding-finds-widespread-support


"A July Rasmussen poll found that 85 percent of Americans believe a Christian photographer has the right to say no if asked to take pictures at a same-sex ceremony that conflicts with the photographer’s religious beliefs."

Time to pick a side - you can't be for both.
 

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Conversion doesn't change anything? Now that's interesting. Do you have a psychology degree? Apparently, you've got this all figured out.

You might want to ask those who have actually undergone conversion how well it works.

http://www.peoplecanchange.com/stories/

Gays are ridiculed? Are you freaking kidding me? I thought some guy named Michael Sam cured cancer a few weeks ago with how he was revered in the media...all the sports journalists were tripping over themselves to go out of their way to point out how courageous they thought he was. You can't flip through a channel guide on your TV without finding some queer eye for straight guy type program on what seems like every night. Ridiculed, my ass...they are revered.

Anyhow, guess what? Sam coming out wasn't a courageous move. Courage requires taking some sort of risk to achieve something great. So Sam told the world that he likes to take it up the tailpipe...big fucking deal. Did anything change since then? What's so great about it? Or was it nothing more than some thinly-veiled PR stunt? I'd also bet any amount of money that not every single one of his Mizzou teammates just couldn't wait to smother Sam in kisses and gush about how delirious they were to have a homo at OLB. There's almost zero chance that media portrayal was accurate. Off the record, you'd hear a different story from some of the players.

Oh, btw...since you assert that therapy never works, then I assume you are in favor of the death penalty for violent crimes? After all, therapy won't do any good...so why keep them around?

Pity you didn't read what I wrote, but what you think I wrote You wasted a bunch of your anti gay nonsense for nothing, other than showing what a homophobe you are. "Conversion" doesn't really change anything, IMO.
Other than that, your post speaks for itself, and I don't even need to respond to it.
 

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Pity you didn't read what I wrote, but what you think I wrote You wasted a bunch of your anti gay nonsense for nothing, other than showing what a homophobe you are. "Conversion" doesn't really change anything, IMO.
Other than that, your post speaks for itself, and I don't even need to respond to it.


Uh huh.

Nothing to say about those who have converted considering they'd be the best ones to cite? Nah. You'd know better than they would!

Nothing to say about why Michael Sam is being treated like a rock star when you absurdly claimed gays are ridiculed in society?

And I'm guessing you'll have nothing to say about this, which at least attempts to present some data that says no scientific proof exists that suggests people are born gay?

http://www.godandscience.org/evolution/genetics_of_homosexuality.html

In short, nothing to say at all...so you play the homophobe card since it's all you have left. Nice punt.

Good God, you're an even lamer debater than vtard.
 

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#1 - Being gay certainly is not 'normal' by any means. In fact, it was the scientific consensus that being gay is a mental disorder not all that long ago.

#2 - Saying gays are 'born that way' adds nothing to the discussion as we could start a list of compulsions that we wouldn't want to normalize even thought people may be "born that way" And, being gay is not the same as being black and that comparison is the last refuge of the illogical.

#3 - Gays have higher incidences of HIV, STD's, drug & alcohol abuse, eating disorders, depression, and suicide than the population at large. Subsidizing and trying to normalize this behavior is costing billions in pubic health expenditures.
 

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Great, Bible Quotes. I'm convinced now. Lock them up and throw away the key!!!

Typical liberal tactic here ( I know you are not a lib) . People morally disagree with a lifestyle and you gay rights folks label us homophobic, ignorant, biggotted, hateful, etc.

You want to blow up brown people, you racist - see how ridiculous that is.
 

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People are not born gay. Foolish belief.
 

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Typical liberal tactic here ( I know you are not a lib) . People morally disagree with a lifestyle and you gay rights folks label us homophobic, ignorant, biggotted, hateful, etc.

You want to blow up brown people, you racist - see how ridiculous that is.

You're right, it is a ridiculous comparison. Because I don't want to see people blown up. It ain't a fucking sport to be for a strong defense. But if someone is holed up in a compound studying a map of our tall buildings I hope he goes BOOM before we go boom.
 

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I guess I'm about to make a lot of enemies in here but I don't give a Fuck. All one has to do is look up at the title of the thread. And all you Intolerant Assholes who believe gays either deserve this treatment, are born that way, can be "repaired" (sic), or deserve ridicule based upon a book my religion wrote that your religion remixed (and I don't care what the Old Testament says either!), or for any reason are not entitled to anything the rest of us are..... can collectively Go Fuck Yourselves! Fuck Bigotry! That's a disease, not Homosexuality. Are you Fucktards are the ones who are infected!
 

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by Tom Bestor

At this crucial time in the fight for equality, it is irresponsible of the Record Searchlight to allow such brazen poppycock as that written by Joseph Busey (“Speak Your Piece,” June 8) to appear in the pages of the paper.

Busey’s basic thesis is that sexuality is not an inborn trait, simply because the research he has seen offers no definitive proof. Remind Busey that science in general is very skeptical of the idea of “proof.” Scientists are big on consensus, not so big on certainty. However, the current consensus is not what Busey presents it.

Busey references only one scientific study, that by Simon LeVay. LeVay’s findings have been controversial, which may be why his study is the only one Busey mentions. Despite the fact that recent research done at Oregon State University lends weight to the conclusions reached by LeVay, there is much other research to be considered. (And not that done by the Family Research Institute and NARTH, both of which are tied to right-wing religious organizations. NARTH advocates conversion therapy, which has been discounted by both the American Psychological Association and the American Psychiatric Association. The Family Research Institute’s 2005 budget was less than $200,000, not enough to conduct any meaningful research. Its Web site lists only two scientists on staff, and the organization is considered a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.)

So let’s look at the state of true scientific inquiry into how homosexuality presents itself in human beings.

First, twin studies. Recent studies have found that when one identical twin is gay, there is a 52 percent chance the other is also gay; if one fraternal twin is gay, the probability the other twin is gay drops to 22 percent; and if one separate-birth sibling is gay, there is only a 6 percent to 10 percent chance another sibling will be gay. This indicates both heritability and that something environmental (probably hormone levels in utero) is at play. This is reinforced by the fact that more recent studies have indicated that when identical twins share an amniotic sack, they nearly always have the same orientation, gay or straight.

Look also at studies on fraternal birth order. Ray Blanchard and colleagues discovered accidentally that each time a woman gives birth to a son, the chance that the boy will be gay increases by about 30 percent. Older sisters do not affect the probability, only older brothers. Blanchard argues that this indicates an immunoresponse by the mother to the presence of a male child.
There are also studies that have shown differences in finger length between heterosexuals and homosexuals. The results of these studies have been verified and reproduced.

Sexuality is about as much a “choice” as handedness is.

As recently as the last century, teachers would tie a child’s left hand in a vain attempt to make them right-handed. While a left-handed person can force himself to write right-handed, just as a gay person can force himself to live a heterosexual lifestyle, that doesn’t make the leftie a rightie or the gay man straight. Some people (the ambidextrous or the bisexual) would find it relatively easy to move from one behavior to the other, but for most of us, changing our sexuality would be as impossible as learning to write as precisely or throw a ball as accurately with our non-dominant hand as with our dominant hand.

Science doesn’t have “proof” as to what causes left-handedness, either. Like sexuality, it is probably a combination of genetics and in utero environmental factors, reinforced in early childhood by societal norms. But it’s clear that both are most likely fixed at birth.

Busey has done the readers of the Redding Record Searchlight a great disservice by presenting his misguided opinions as being representative of the scientific community at large.

Sexuality is not strictly a genetic trait, like skin color or eye color, but it is certainly not a conscious choice people make. Even if it were, that’s still no reason to deny marriage equality to the more than 1 million gay people living in California. Religion is a choice, and laws prevent discrimination on that basis.

I hope the readers of the Record Searchlight will look at these matters with an open mind, and remember that the equality being sought is civil equality, and every church will still retain the right to deny marriage to anyone they wish. Are Californians truly ready to write discrimination into our constitution so that a group of people who are different from birth will be treated unequally? I don’t think so. I think we are better than that.

Tom Bestor is a writer in San Rafael.
 

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I guess I'm about to make a lot of enemies in here but I don't give a Fuck. All one has to do is look up at the title of the thread. And all you Intolerant Assholes who believe gays either deserve this treatment, are born that way, can be "repaired" (sic), or deserve ridicule based upon a book my religion wrote that your religion remixed (and I don't care what the Old Testament says either!), or for any reason are not entitled to anything the rest of us are..... can collectively Go Fuck Yourselves! Fuck Bigotry! That's a disease, not Homosexuality. Are you Fucktards are the ones who are infected!

Once again, how is disagreeing with a lifestyle bigotry? That's fucking ridiculous. I don't wish harm on them, I just morally disagree with the way they live their lives. How is that hate? How do I have a disease? Fucking ludicrous.

We have differing opinions on the war on terror. I can see where you are coming from. Just because I don't agree with your position, doesn't mean you are dead wrong. You are not a racist just like I am not a bigot.
 

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[h=1]Jason Collins, First Openly Gay N.B.A. Player, Signs With Nets and Appears in Game[/h]
Who gives a fuck? The media needs to chill the fuck out with this shit. I'm watching SC with my 11 year old son and this is all they are talking about.. this and the N bomb will be a 15 yard penalty.
 

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