Trump disinvites Philadelphia Eagles, Super Bowl champions, from White House

[ERockMoney]

Your opinion on the matter doesn't matter because no matter how you try to explain it, it doesn't matter. No employee in the United States of America has the right to protest at their workplace. And every employer in America has the right to fire any employee that attempts to protest in their workplace.

There's no two sides to this. Not being able to protest at work is a fact that can't be disputed ever.

It’s not as simple as NFL players being at work and protesting, this is more of a gray area due to the fact these are collectively bargained employees.

The CBA is ambiguous at best on anthem protests, leaving the door open for players to protest. The CBA does have a provision stating employees can be fined, suspended, terminated, etc for conduct detrimental to the brand. This could be one approach the NFL could use, but it’s also a gray area. The NFL could point to ratings and sponsorship being down, but the players could point to ratings being down less than other programming and continued increases in revenue, overall team values and salary cap. There are similar provision in the employment contract players must sign with the league, but they would be open to the same scrutiny.

The players manual, which is not collectively bargained, does comment on conduct during the anthem, but unlike the NBA, the NFL fucked up the wording leaving a loophole by suggesting players “should” stand versus “must” stand. The NFL had a chance to shut this down immediately and get in front of it, but has continuously fucked it up every step of the way. The fact the NFL and Goddell basically endorsed this on several occasions gives the Union strong standing moving forward.

The NFL could still have strong grounds to terminate, legally, but they could be stuck paying out contracts, even non-guaranteed monies, and could face significant EEOC litigation if they pick and choose termination, which could be viewed as discriminatory.

 

[Enfuego]

It’s not as simple as NFL players being at work and protesting, this is more of a gray area due to the fact these are collectively bargained employees.

The CBA is ambiguous at best on anthem protests, leaving the door open for players to protest. The CBA does have a provision stating employees can be fined, suspended, terminated, etc for conduct detrimental to the brand. This could be one approach the NFL could use, but it’s also a gray area. The NFL could point to ratings and sponsorship being down, but the players could point to ratings being down less than other programming and continued increases in revenue, overall team values and salary cap. There are similar provision in the employment contract players must sign with the league, but they would be open to the same scrutiny.

The players manual, which is not collectively bargained, does comment on conduct during the anthem, but unlike the NBA, the NFL fucked up the wording leaving a loophole by suggesting players “should” stand versus “must” stand. The NFL had a chance to shut this down immediately and get in front of it, but has continuously fucked it up every step of the way. The fact the NFL and Goddell basically endorsed this on several occasions gives the Union strong standing moving forward.

The NFL could still have strong grounds to terminate, legally, but they could be stuck paying out contracts, even non-guaranteed monies, and could face significant EEOC litigation if they pick and choose termination, which could be viewed as discriminatory.

The simple point is this. Any employee in the United States of American may be let go by an employer at anytime because of actions deemed detrimental to the company's bottom line. The players may be paid but they can be cut tomorrow for any reason the owner wants.

If an employer says you can't protest at work, you can't protest at work and could be fired. It's really that simple.

 

[bilbal]

The bottom line is, if Trump demanded these players kneel for the anthem, they would say "f u donald" and stand. Pathetically, that is the true essence of who they are. It's not about the flag, it's not about kneeling, it's the fact that their actions anger white people. They demand we not be offended by their right to protest by kneeling, yet they are offended by whitey's counter protest by not watching, not showing up, cancelling season tickets and making sure their team's GM understand the ramifications of signing pieces of manure like Kneelpernick. Kneeling is how gutless pussies protest, quitting the NFL is how a real man protests. I can only hope when one of these self centered, egotistical pieces of manure needs the police, that the police show up and kneel.

 

[wabashwonders]

What you guys that side with the Eagles and the rest of the kneeling NFL players need to understand is that most of America agrees with the POTUS on this issue. Kneeling for the Anthem is simply bad for business and bad for the player's own personal brands.

No fans want politics involved in their sports. It's as clear as day.

How far will ESPN ratings drop before it smacks you in the face and you get it finally?

Then the President should have shut up(like that would ever happen) and let the NFL handle their problem which occurred at the workplace. This was a workplace incident remember so he should not have involved himself. The players are definitely wrong doing what they are doing but Trump was wrong as well to even get involved. And that’s the reason we are at this point.

 

[919]

“President plays to simple minded mouth breathers using race to distract from real issues in government”

 

[michael777]

[FONT=&quot]The Eagles can go to hell! They join the ranks of “losers” like Hillary...they aren’t hurting their President, they are hurting their own reputation.[/FONT]

 

[skins85]

seems to me all the protesting of police violence by taking a knee and an invite to the white house presents a great opportunity to bring light on the issue. but the eagles all said they wouldnt go so trump did the right thing and took away the invite. pretty obvious snowflake mentality....i dont like it but wont do anything about it except complain. these players had a chance to meet with the president and potentially give insight into an issue important to them. instead here we are. the nfl should invite kids from the philadelphia area or even make a wish kids and provide them with a trip to the white house. make a positive out of this.

 

[919]

Stay in Philly.....That black power shit is for the ghetto not the American flag.....You`re not invited.

And this is really what people like you are about

 

[919]

And because it’s obvious that should make a difference?

My take on this is that Trump should not have involved himself in this to start with, it wasn’t about him but too late for that now. I completely disagree with what the players are doing and their disrespect to the flag is uncalled for. Like everyone continues to point out, this is all happening at the workplace, so Trump should have kept his mouth shut, it was not his place to butt in. But the fact is this visit is tradition and should have nothing to do with their idiotic protest. Trump should keep the invite and if only 10 players show up, to me that would make the NFL look bad, not Trump. I feel bad for the 10 players who want to go and meet the President but now won’t get that chance because a tradition has been broken over something “STUPID”!!!

Seems like everyone is getting bent out of shape over a lot of stupid things lately.

This is the perfect issue for Trump to rile up his white nationalist base, and the only reason he keeps bringing it up. This five time draft dodging pussy doesn’t give a shit about any of this, except that it helps him with his base.

 

[Coldweather]

Eagles just playing the race, anti police, hate Trump and anti Country cards.

F them! :hammerit:hammerit:hammerit

 

[919]

Trump busy doin “president stuff” again today

 

[Albatross]

Any true American would support Trump here. The ones bashing him hate the country for it was founded on. It's pretty simple

 

[VIEJODINOSAUR]

Some of you still don’t understand that this had nothing to do with the anthem....had everything to do with social injustice and police abuse towards African Americans....If it were about the anthem and disrespect, I would agree with most of you...I know the difference, I am ex military

Fans in attendance of ball games who stand up for the National Anthem with their ball caps not removed are just as bad as players kneeling...

 

[Knightrofins]

In 2017, a total of ZERO players from the Philadelphia eagles kneeled during the national anthem or stayed in the locker room during the national anthem.

Any pics of players kneeling are from players saying prayers.

Another rumor is that Trump hates the NFL due to the 1) the USFL days and 2) He tried to purchase the Buffalo Bills years ago and failed. However i'm not sure how much he truly hates the NFL as him and Bob Kraft are very good friends

 

[REDEYE]

Some of you still don’t understand that this had nothing to do with the anthem....had everything to do with social injustice and police abuse towards African Americans....If it were about the anthem and disrespect, I would agree with most of you...I know the difference, I am ex military

Fans in attendance of ball games who stand up for the National Anthem with their ball caps not removed are just as bad as players kneeling...

I doubt any of these whiners did anything about social injustice on there own time..

 

[REDEYE]

I think a better point would have been to have what Eagles wanted to go , go to the WH. Having most of the players not there , would have drove home the point how out of touch these losers really are

 

[Coldweather]

I think the Eagles should change their name to the ca ca birds and fly away ! cheersgif

 

[Enfuego]

Then the President should have shut up(like that would ever happen) and let the NFL handle their problem which occurred at the workplace. This was a workplace incident remember so he should not have involved himself. The players are definitely wrong doing what they are doing but Trump was wrong as well to even get involved. And that’s the reason we are at this point.

I don't disagree with you.

 

[Enfuego]

Some of you still don’t understand that this had nothing to do with the anthem....had everything to do with social injustice and police abuse towards African Americans....If it were about the anthem and disrespect, I would agree with most of you...I know the difference, I am ex military

Fans in attendance of ball games who stand up for the National Anthem with their ball caps not removed are just as bad as players kneeling...

Well, I am active military and see it very differently than you.

 

[JavyBaez9]

Some of you still don’t understand that this had nothing to do with the anthem....had everything to do with social injustice and police abuse towards African Americans....If it were about the anthem and disrespect, I would agree with most of you...I know the difference, I am ex military

Fans in attendance of ball games who stand up for the National Anthem with their ball caps not removed are just as bad as players kneeling...

When accounting for rate of police interaction as well as the rate of violent crime in each group, whites are actually shot disproportionately more by police than blacks are.

If you look at it another angle as well, blacks kill way more cops than whites do, yet whites are shot by police more than blacks.

So actually, cops treat blacks pretty good considering facts in reality.