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Nirvana Shill
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I am still not sure who was offering Trump at 10 to 1 on election day. He was always bouncing around at +300 to +350.

It seemed every few weeks he would say or do something stupid. Clinton would rise in the polls. Then Trump would be "calm" for a week and he would come back up in the polls. He was never really hopelessly behind in polling. The media made it seem that way, but the polling always said he had a chance.

Trump was bouncing around +400-500 for alot of the summer. That's what my action was. Day of the election with polls showing Trump had 2-5% chance of winning it was around 10/1. Even early voting Trump was at +700 or so..
 

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Polls are anonymous so how would anyone receive shame for it??? Polls are about 80% accurate when it comes to predicting the winner of the Presidential elections. And Hillary did receive 3M more votes than the Orange Loon in 2016 as polls measure popular votes and not Electoral College.

Like I said, LA Times poll had the Orange Loon winning in 2016 while many others had it as a dead heat. Heck even Michael Moore publicly predicted Orange Hitler would win. So unless the Orange Idiot closes the widening gap, it'll be a cakewalk for Biden.
 

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Trump was bouncing around +400-500 for alot of the summer. That's what my action was. Day of the election with polls showing Trump had 2-5% chance of winning it was around 10/1. Even early voting Trump was at +700 or so..

One has to be careful with exit polling. I remember day of election W started out as something of a -250 fav then exit polling had favored Kerry so much that Kerry became a -300 fav. I know exit polling also had Hilary way in front also.

I am just pointing out the fact that actual polling never had Hilary as far ahead as lets say Bill Clinton vs Dole. It only felt that way.
 

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Polls are anonymous so how would anyone receive shame for it??? Polls are about 80% accurate when it comes to predicting the winner of the Presidential elections. And Hillary did receive 3M more votes than the Orange Loon in 2016 as polls measure popular votes and not Electoral College.

Like I said, LA Times poll had the Orange Loon winning in 2016 while many others had it as a dead heat. Heck even Michael Moore publicly predicted Orange Hitler would win. So unless the Orange Idiot closes the widening gap, it'll be a cakewalk for Biden.

Stop calling him names ...
 

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I know many of your hearts are in the right place but are ignoring the key aspects of what is going on now, and comparing apples-to-apples to the 2016 election.

Things are vastly different than 2016.

Trump is in very deep trouble and his GOP colleagues are not helping and they haven't for 3.5 years.

(from another thread)

-the emergence of BLM, they are an overwhelming force, Mayors, Governors, Congressmen, CEO's, Athletic Directors, are all cowering to them, something untoward is happening with this, but it is very significant
-the media/press/Hollywood/academia, but more than ever, FaceBook, Google, Twitter, and YouTube are on full ambush 24/7... a key is that they do NOT report stories that are against their narrative like Biden threatening $1B with Ukraine

-Hillary was one of the most disliked (personality wise) candidates in 100 years
-Hillary and Dems ignored 6 swing states, Trump eeked wins in all of them, this time Dems will swarm in those states
-Dems now have TONS of things to lie about with all that has occured with Trump to numerous to list (like the Charlottesville LIE)
-BLM is a huge force and if not stopped, will affect the election
-Dems are united, and will stop at nothing, think how far they went with Russia, Kavanagh, Ukraine, impeachment, and now keeping the economy shut down with the virus, and expoiting the Floyd death-----repeat, they will stop at nothing
-GOP has not done dick in 3.5 years, a few put on a show but then do nothing, GOP is not focused, not sure they havent sold out or given up
-Biden is an idiot but is pushed by the constant media Big Brother propaganda as someone who can get us back to normal
-Kamala Harris will probably be the VP pick, and if they win Biden will be out in 6 months and she will be the most ruthless President in our history, a nightmare
 

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One of the biggest things Trump had going for him in 2016, that doesn't really get discussed, is when was the last time the same party held the presidency for 3 terms? Clinton couldn't hand it to Gore, H.W. couldn't hand it to McCain and Obama couldn't hand it to Hilary. I believe the last time was Reagan to H.W.(then H.W. became a 1 term president)

What Trump has going for him is being the incumbent.
 

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One has to be careful with exit polling. I remember day of election W started out as something of a -250 fav then exit polling had favored Kerry so much that Kerry became a -300 fav. I know exit polling also had Hilary way in front also.

I am just pointing out the fact that actual polling never had Hilary as far ahead as lets say Bill Clinton vs Dole. It only felt that way.

She had a significant lead for most of 2016 and the day of the election . not sure how else to say it
 

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She had a significant lead for most of 2016 and the day of the election . not sure how else to say it

She did. But it was never a lead like Clinton vs Dole but it was played like that. All i am saying.

Purely betting advice but i wouldn't touch Trump. He is going to need to really dig out of a hole and getting him at not even 2 to 1 is insane. I think Biden should be around -500.

The silent voting group last time around was "anyone but hilary"
 

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^ The silent voting group this time is anything but Black Lives Matter and their lawlessness.

Trump will win and win easy.....
 

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I know many of your hearts are in the right place but are ignoring the key aspects of what is going on now, and comparing apples-to-apples to the 2016 election.

Things are vastly different than 2016.

Trump is in very deep trouble and his GOP colleagues are not helping and they haven't for 3.5 years.

(from another thread)

-the emergence of BLM, they are an overwhelming force, Mayors, Governors, Congressmen, CEO's, Athletic Directors, are all cowering to them, something untoward is happening with this, but it is very significant
-the media/press/Hollywood/academia, but more than ever, FaceBook, Google, Twitter, and YouTube are on full ambush 24/7... a key is that they do NOT report stories that are against their narrative like Biden threatening $1B with Ukraine

-Hillary was one of the most disliked (personality wise) candidates in 100 years
-Hillary and Dems ignored 6 swing states, Trump eeked wins in all of them, this time Dems will swarm in those states
-Dems now have TONS of things to lie about with all that has occured with Trump to numerous to list (like the Charlottesville LIE)
-BLM is a huge force and if not stopped, will affect the election
-Dems are united, and will stop at nothing, think how far they went with Russia, Kavanagh, Ukraine, impeachment, and now keeping the economy shut down with the virus, and expoiting the Floyd death-----repeat, they will stop at nothing
-GOP has not done dick in 3.5 years, a few put on a show but then do nothing, GOP is not focused, not sure they havent sold out or given up
-Biden is an idiot but is pushed by the constant media Big Brother propaganda as someone who can get us back to normal
-Kamala Harris will probably be the VP pick, and if they win Biden will be out in 6 months and she will be the most ruthless President in our history, a nightmare

Most of the things you list here can also backfire on the Dems too. All of these hoaxes will still be in voters minds when it comes to deciding.

The trust in the media/ Hollywood etc is at a all time low.. Not sure if thats the plus for Dems you think it is..That can go the wrong direction for quite a few voters if they see enough of false or no reporting at all. Probably doesn't affect the bases at all either way..

Trump was severely out funded by Hilary in 2016. Can probably add that the campaign wasn't anywhere as organized as is now. GOP right now has a big war chest advantage ..

I also think having a black woman as a VP choice will backfire too. Smart money says we just had a failure with a black president , and the candidates now in play aren't electable as a President , so as a VP ? No way

Could list a few other of your points. But we've been there done that.
 

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She did. But it was never a lead like Clinton vs Dole but it was played like that. All i am saying.

Purely betting advice but i wouldn't touch Trump. He is going to need to really dig out of a hole and getting him at not even 2 to 1 is insane. I think Biden should be around -500.

The silent voting group last time around was "anyone but hilary"

put your money where your mouth is
 

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guys... I know some of you are familiar with Qanon. I Do Know whats coming in the next 4 months.. YOU DO NOT..

Pres Trump will win 49 states...

This will be the biggest landslide in out nations history..

YOU all do Not know whats coming
 
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guys... I know some of you are familiar with Qanon. I Do Know whats coming in the next 4 months.. YOU DO NOT..

Pres Trump will win 49 states...

This will be the biggest landslide in out nations history..

YOU all do Not know whats coming

So you are saying that he either takes Cali or NY if not both?
 

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put your money where your mouth is

I have. The only thing that is a downer is the 4 month wait period.

Or if i am missing ur point and ur asking to book my action, what are ur terms? If that's what ur saying.
 

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guys... I know some of you are familiar with Qanon. I Do Know whats coming in the next 4 months.. YOU DO NOT..

Pres Trump will win 49 states...

This will be the biggest landslide in out nations history..

YOU all do Not know whats coming

Q has said "Trust Sessions. Trust Wray."... among other things.
I see no evidence that his theory is credible, Q says the military is behind Trump, but, Mattis, Kelly, McManus, and others who worked for Trump are all demolishing Trump big time, in public.
 

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I have. The only thing that is a downer is the 4 month wait period.

Or if i am missing ur point and ur asking to book my action, what are ur terms? If that's what ur saying.

Have enough places to place my action and continuing to do it
 

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So you are saying that he either takes Cali or NY if not both?

NY has to be in play with what's happening there. To many are ignoring what actually is going on. Media can't lie to you when you see destruction , deaths , and the cops not responding in front of your own eyes.. I doubt it will be 49 states. But I will be surprised we don't get 40. Got some electoral vote props of winning by 69-100 and 100-149 votes. Great odds too. Both are in play imo
 
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once the debates being all the talk will be Biden's mental decline. The man can't get through a written statement without dramatic errors and pauses...there's no way he will get through a debate without making a complete ass of himself. He's rarely been seen in public over L3 months and his appearances have led to dozing off (twice), yelling at an autoworker, and telling blacks they ain't black if they don't vote for him. That comes on the heels of the primary where he forgot how many grandkids he has, called his wife his sister, and didn't remember what office he was running for.

The only way Biden is worth a bet at -160 is if you're guaranteed that he won't have to perform these 3-4 scheduled live debates.




There’s already a book written about all the stupid shit Trump has said. A book of all the incompetences he’s showcased.


They could put Biden up there at 90 years old and he still would hold his own against Trump. Why? Because people know what he is. Those low blows are not going to sting as much as they did when Hilary was there. That’s a guarantee.


What could happen is if Trump does really really well and Biden does terrible (which won’t happen) then trump could gain back some followers.. but like I said you’re asking someone that everyone knows is a dumbass to demolish someone who the public thinks has dementia.


Honestly, Biden will get a pass either way. Trump needs Russia, again badly. He tried to use China for his re-election but that ship has sailed.


Trump has Russia on his side. He needs to cheat to win. Only chance he has at this point.


I knew Lebron would have a big part in this election and he is doing just that by starting up the voting awareness
 

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A big positive is the polls, this time, are a lot more apt to be off since the "Trump thing" has increased significantly, even with a phone poll many do NOT want to tell that they are a Trump supporter, this was a factor in 2016 but is much more of a factor now. Much more.

(Hell what kind of country do we have, can't put a Trump bumper sticker on your car, wear a hat, without being harrassed or even attacked. If you say "All Lives Matter" on your Facebook you are fired at work.)
 
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Question I have is if Trump didnt have Russia in his pocket.....what would the line be?



Biden -190 seems about right.
 

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