Trouble in Patriot Paradise?

[Betallsports]

What he's worth is subjective. When they dealt him, they got what they could. At the point of the trade deadline you aren't gonna make the decision "Well we wanna deal Jimmy but we only got offered a early 2nd rd pick, let's keep him for 3 months then let him be a FA". You're gonna take the pick. A high 2nd rd pick is a highly coveted pick.

They could've franchise tagged him in the upcoming offseason and dealt him then but that would've been a potential mess with teams knowing they aren't going to keep both him and Brady. They may have just had to rescind the tag eventually. And they likely want to have the threat/use of the tag for Malcolm Butler.

Maybe they could've got more during the last offseason, but they wanted to see if Brady would hit a wall in 2017, once he didn't they decided to keep Brady. Or they thought hold onto Jimmy into the season and a Sam Bradford to Minn or Carson Palmer to Oak type haul for Jimmy would materialize. But it didn't happen so they just dealt him to the highest bidder.

Fair enough.

I just don't feel they really shopped him around, I think ... and it's My own opinion that they ( the Pats ) picked who they wanted to trade with it.
there were a few more teams that needed a QB.
Yes I know that they said they wouldn't send him to Cleveland because they were doing him a favor. Just think they could have got a late 1st rounder for him from someone else.

Thanks

 

[Willie99]

My wager for Willie is sf wins more games then NE next season.
if they both win the same it’s a push

take it or leave it.

im willing to wager up to 3k.

if you agree to the bet and either or Brady/belichick leaves the bet is still on.


I honestly think this whole thing is about to blow up.

gonna have 2 huge over under bets next season.

sf over ne under

You're on for 1k, total wins NE vs SF

And if Jimmy G leaves SF, the bet is still on

 

[PatsFan1283]

Chop can anyone get that bet? That ADA going to your head bro.

 

[festeringZit]

My wager for Willie is sf wins more games then NE next season.
if they both win the same it’s a push

take it or leave it.

im willing to wager up to 3k.

if you agree to the bet and either or Brady/belichick leaves the bet is still on.


I honestly think this whole thing is about to blow up.

gonna have 2 huge over under bets next season.

sf over ne under

I'll take some of that action, if available.

 

[Michelangelo]

Chop can anyone get that bet? That ADA going to your head bro.

I'll take $1000.00 if you want to fill your $3000.00 max, Chop.

 

[Greenbacks]

Wow, 49ers more wins then the Pats next season...lol

You should at least get 2-1 odds though.

The only problem is...The Bills,Dolphins & Jets will always be a automatic 6 wins for the Pats.

 

[PatsFan1283]

Leave him alone GB, he's on a good 1

 

[mountain]

Wow, 49ers more wins then the Pats next season...lol

You should at least get 2-1 odds though.

The only problem is...The Bills,Dolphins & Jets will always be a automatic 6 wins for the Pats.

2018 Regular Season schedule:

Patriots
Home: Bills, Dolphins, Jets, Chiefs, Texans, Colts, Packers, Vikings
Away: Bills, Dolphins, Jets, Bears, Lions, Titans, Jaguars, Steelers


49ers
Home: ​Cardinals, Rams, Seahawks, Bears, Browns, Lions, Giants, Raiders
Away: ​Cardinals, Rams, Seahawks, Packers, Chiefs, Chargers, Vikings, Buccaneers

 

[Betallsports]

Wow, 49ers more wins then the Pats next season...lol

You should at least get 2-1 odds though.

The only problem is...The Bills,Dolphins & Jets will always be a automatic 6 wins for the Pats.

Not always ... but 5-1 or 4-2

 

[Greenbacks]

You probably have a better shot that Bill won't be the coach next season.

That could be a bet.

 

[NBAcapper08]

cryptocurrency has turned chop into a mad man. thats the worst bet I've ever heard lol

 

[THawk+]

100% Kraft told BB to trade JG to show his loyalty to Brady.... Brady has been in Krafts ear since before the season started about
respect and why he is not getting it. BB was ready to move on from Brady and go with JG.

Kraft just killed his franchise by making BB to trade JG because of his relationship with Brady.

It's all on www.bostonsportsjournal.com Greg Bedard has covered NFl and Patriots for a long time and it's all in his story.

My buddy showed it to me today, he is a subscriber. I can't show it as I am not a subscriber. The story from Wickersham definitely has inside info from people
inside the Patriots who are close to BB. This piece does not make Brady look very good.

My take is Kraft made a huge blunder not allowing BB to run the team how he has always done. That meant BB was ready to move on from Brady, most likely trade him and go with JG because he believed he was the next great QB. he traded JG to Sf because he knew Shanahan would be a great coach for JG and he would show that BB was correct in keeping JG from his play in SF...

Kraft never has a say in player moves, he has always let BB run as he sees fit. This loyalty by Kraft will turn the Patriots into a middle of the road team in the near future. Patricia will more than likely go, McDaniels more than likely gone after this year, I would not be surprised if BB retired after this year as he had his next QB
and he definitely believes Brady is regressing in a big way based off of things said in the Wickersham story. He does not need to prove anything anymore.

If Patricia, McDaniels go and BB decides he is done because he was told to trade JG by Kraft and sees no reason to stay.

they will have Brady and no HC. LOL

 

[PatsFan1283]

100% Kraft told BB to trade JG to show his loyalty to Brady.... Brady has been in Krafts ear since before the season started about
respect and why he is not getting it. BB was ready to move on from Brady and go with JG.

Kraft just killed his franchise by making BB to trade JG because of his relationship with Brady.

It's all on www.bostonsportsjournal.com Greg Bedard has covered NFl and Patriots for a long time and it's all in his story.

My buddy showed it to me today, he is a subscriber. I can't show it as I am not a subscriber. The story from Wickersham definitely has inside info from people
inside the Patriots who are close to BB. This piece does not make Brady look very good.

My take is Kraft made a huge blunder not allowing BB to run the team how he has always done. That meant BB was ready to move on from Brady, most likely trade him and go with JG because he believed he was the next great QB. he traded JG to Sf because he knew Shanahan would be a great coach for JG and he would show that BB was correct in keeping JG from his play in SF...

Kraft never has a say in player moves, he has always let BB run as he sees fit. This loyalty by Kraft will turn the Patriots into a middle of the road team in the near future. Patricia will more than likely go, McDaniels more than likely gone after this year, I would not be surprised if BB retired after this year as he had his next QB
and he definitely believes Brady is regressing in a big way based off of things said in the Wickersham story. He does not need to prove anything anymore.

If Patricia, McDaniels go and BB decides he is done because he was told to trade JG by Kraft and sees no reason to stay.

they will have Brady and no HC. LOL

I'm not gonna say your wrong, but I'm pretty skeptical it went down like that. Real life tends to not be as dramatic as people make it out to be. Maybe we'll find out the truth eventually but I have a hard time believing Belichick would have complete authority to do what he wanted with the Pats from 2000 to mid-Nov 2017 and then Kraft just interjects like that. But it is possible. Brady isn't an ordinary Patriot and if they got rid of him and Jimmy failed at first, there would likely be a ton of fan backlash at something like that given Brady's immense stature. Also, Kraft being the owner would obviously be much more sensitive to fan backlash effecting the teams bottom line than Belichick would. So it would make sense he would be far more skittish about getting rid of TB than BB. But I just don't see Belichick wanting Garapollo to be the Pats QB in 2018 over Brady.

I just feel like this is an Occam's razor thing, where Brady's stature/icon status/level of play meant the Pats weren't ready to move on from him because of how difficult that would be so they made the deal.

But if there is truth to what you say I think we'll know sooner than later.

 

[THawk+]

Patsfan sorry to break it to you but it's in Bedard's story. Kraft told BB he had to trade JG

There was a meeting 2 weeks before trade deadline when Kraft told BB this.

It's obvious BB wanted JG to be his Qb and move on from Brady. They offered JG contracts supposedly with substantial money and he rejected them because he wanted to pay and the Patriots or BB could not tell him when because both QB's have the same agent.. BB could not tell JG and Yee that he planned on JG being his QB such and such year because Yee is also Brady's agent....

If you can read between the lines it looks like BB was 100% ready to move on from Brady, but Kraft would not let him..

Yes BB had total control of player decisions all these years 100% has been reported many time over the years.
Kraft did not stick his nose into personnel decisions

Sorry Pats fans I really don't know why you have rose colored glasses on about all this There has been a lot of smoke over the years about things..

The Patriot dynasty will be coming to a close much sooner than it should because of Krafts poor decision on JG and Brady situation...
If they kept JG the dynasty could have extended out another 10-12 years, now it will be over within 2 years.

BB is not going to start over looking for the next franchise QB after having found him and grooming him just to have Kraft force BB to trade him and start over looking for the next franchise QB.

If you don't see BB take a QB this year in the draft of some note then that is probably your answer. BB would be saying I am done...

 

[PatsFan1283]

Lol it is not that serious man. Just saying I'm skeptical that it is true, I didn't say there is no chance it is true. Even if it is true, more of an organizational disagreement rather than all out war. These guys been together almost 2 decades and this is an incredibly difficult situation, so tensions running high would not exactly be uncommon. This isn't the Commodores breaking up.

https://wbznewsradio.iheart.com/con...spond-to-espn-article-alleging-team-tensions/

Here is Bedard on the radio talking about the report though for anyone interested.

 

[CHOPTALK]

100% Kraft told BB to trade JG to show his loyalty to Brady.... Brady has been in Krafts ear since before the season started about
respect and why he is not getting it. BB was ready to move on from Brady and go with JG.

Kraft just killed his franchise by making BB to trade JG because of his relationship with Brady.

It's all on www.bostonsportsjournal.com Greg Bedard has covered NFl and Patriots for a long time and it's all in his story.

My buddy showed it to me today, he is a subscriber. I can't show it as I am not a subscriber. The story from Wickersham definitely has inside info from people
inside the Patriots who are close to BB. This piece does not make Brady look very good.

My take is Kraft made a huge blunder not allowing BB to run the team how he has always done. That meant BB was ready to move on from Brady, most likely trade him and go with JG because he believed he was the next great QB. he traded JG to Sf because he knew Shanahan would be a great coach for JG and he would show that BB was correct in keeping JG from his play in SF...

Kraft never has a say in player moves, he has always let BB run as he sees fit. This loyalty by Kraft will turn the Patriots into a middle of the road team in the near future. Patricia will more than likely go, McDaniels more than likely gone after this year, I would not be surprised if BB retired after this year as he had his next QB
and he definitely believes Brady is regressing in a big way based off of things said in the Wickersham story. He does not need to prove anything anymore.

If Patricia, McDaniels go and BB decides he is done because he was told to trade JG by Kraft and sees no reason to stay.

they will have Brady and no HC. LOL

this post is 100% truth .

 

[Willie99]

Our inherently dishonest media always desperately trying to find a breaking story combined with 24 hour news, 10 all sports channels and social media and baddafuckingbing, Youse get the Patriots imploding yet again.

Priceless

 

[CHOPTALK]

I totally believe belichick would be 100% against trading him .

its how he has always operated .

he had a complete stud and knew .

it would have also given him a chance to show he can win without Brady .

Which I’m sure is something he would have loved to do and would have done.


I just don’t think people quite realize yet just how good jimmy g really is yet.

Once people see how great he is then all the pats fans are going to realize Coach was right and owner was wrong .

Pats fans will not enjoy watching Hoyer qb while jimmy g winning mvps .

That and I would not be shocked if coach leaves New England after the season .

 

[CHOPTALK]

The dynasty is officially done after this season.

And the saints will see to it they don’t win another super bowl.

and that’s if Pittsburgh doesn’t stop them first .

all good things come to an end

 

[Willie99]

And Jeff Francoeur will be the next Micky Mantle too

Book it