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the field needs help from Rahm and DJ , 2-playes IN FORM!!, ...can JT can somehow muster form? Disturbing driving shit from JT last weekend , holy fuck , double miss off the tee, cuoldnt hit a fairway to save his life.......mind in the no-mans land, Tough to back given his past weekend. BUT, he is a special player and a winner here


good vibes for Webb at East Lake, likes the course AND in form...but he's a step below the ultra -elite and giving shots to start? he had the best seat in the house in the final pairing at the RBC Canadian Open at Hamilton a yr ago , a course that suited him quite well-- forget it, Rory brought the A-game, kaput. @):mad:.

the young guns first look at the course ...

since 2010 the leader heading into East Lake has NOT WON, doesnt bode well for DJ.............


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Some outstanding info in the thread. I enjoy browsing some stats but they have way to many variables imo. So I don’t weigh then too heavy.

JT has been the stat king past month but not lived up to it. Would love to see him get the groove back. DJ is in the zone. But man he does have problems closing with pressure. I wonder how that lead affects him being chased down. Will him and Rahm play conservative?

Donald Ross, Bermuda Greens, Driving accuracy is important here imo. Don’t see an advantage for bombers.

Webb- fits stats box here. But also plays Donald Ross and Bermuda greens on another level. Has the form, took last week off, starts -7, and it almost seems like it’s destiny he wins due to his game fit for course and the incredible year he has quietly had.

Berger- on par with Webb. Just not sure he can close yet. His odds increase to win the harder course plays imo. Steady 4 day of -2 golf rounds may be just enough.

Morikawa- 1st appearance here I believe. Starts off in good position. Game is solid and for value odds wise and his start position. He will check the box on stats also.

Todd- accuracy all around. Steady Eddie all the way. Like Berger, if the course plays harder he will have advantages. Huge odds but does start out okay at -4.

Xander- stat fit everywhere and course history is amazing in 3 tries. Always a hugely popular bet every week for folks.


I always like to take a glance at guys finishing spots year before. This tournament is different with no cut and only 30. But typically if a guy top 5’s previous year I kick him back next year. A guy top 6-10 previous year I go the opposite for higher finish. Again, this isn’t the best tournament for this but I still always do this and then narrow it down by form and fit etc.

Finish Past 4 Years
DJ - 29 3 17 6 5
JT - 3 7 2 6 (I lean JT finish Outside top 5) To win Pass
Rory - 1 7 1 ( I lean Rory finish outside top 5) To win Pass
Xander - 2 7 1 ( I lean Xander finish outside top 5) To win Pass

Rahm - 12 11 7 ( I lean Rahm inside top 5) To win pass (short odds)
Webb - 16 4 13 ( I lean Webb inside top 5) To win play
Finau - 7 15 7 ( I lean Finau inside top 5) To win pass (too many shots back)
Bison - 12 19 ( I lean Bison inside top 5) To win play (gulp)
Berger - x x 15 15 12 ( I lean Berger inside top 5) To win play
Deki- 9 4 26 3 12 ( I lean Deki inside top 5) To win pass (Putt/ Tee game)

With short odds, stroke advantage and only 30 golfers it’s take a stab at value. I do think the course plays very hard. Greens look super fast. Watching charity event ZJ and Palmer having trouble on them and they look fast. Hitting fairways and good putting is the value. I think -8 for 4 rounds is the target score. So any golfer -3 or lower I find it hard to see they can shoot low enough to catch a guy up top who plays just okay.


Webb 12-1
Bison 23-1
Berger 26-1

For value to hedge Sunday or Monday
Todd 90-1 ( starts -3, harder course better he fits)
English 60-1 (starts -4
Im 75-1 (starts -4 plays Bermuda greens and Donald Ross better)

The value may be to take 1-2 golfer with decent odds and see how course plays. Then jump on a guy or 2 after Saturday.
 

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My Draft kings lineup

Do you guys like it. Let me know if i should make changed thanks.

Berger
Hatton
Kisner
Simpson
Mcllroy
Nierman
 

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My Draft kings lineup

Do you guys like it. Let me know if i should make changed thanks.

Berger
Hatton
Kisner
Simpson
Mcllroy
Nierman

Big GPP or Cash?

if playing a big GPP and on DK then make a lineup with like $2k on the table. If it’s a big GPP then so many guys mass entry it they will have all the combos with just 30 golfers. You will have to have the winner and guys who outs ore finishing positions. Guys who will birdie streak and be aggressive to score. A guy like IM will go hunt but he will make some bogies also. For example, player styles risk vs reward

Todd can punch a 3 birdies 2 bogeys scorecard Friday. Be in 6th place
Im can punch a 7 birdies 5 bogeys 1 Dbl be in 15th and still have more points than Todd
 

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I added a pretty big Hatton over Im matchup as well. Mostly a fade of Im but also Hatton has had some success on DR courses.
Also put $10 on him 100/1 hahahaha. Lighting money on fire but whatever.
 

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To win a GPP you will need

Winner
2 other guys in top 6 (finish points)
and for this tournament a bunch of luck

Id pick 3 guys I think can win legitimately. And can all top 6.
Then hunt guys who score. Birdie guys who also bogey a good bit.
Then try and leave a bunch of $ So lineup is unique
Fade a couple of the popular picks. Xander!

0 $ left (likely duplicated)
Simpson
Berger
English
Im
Ancer
Kisner

2300 $ left (highly doubt duplicated)
Berger
Rory
English
Im
Ancer
Kisner

Lineup above is just an example of swapping out one high $ player for much cheaper player and lineup instantly becomes unique. Webb for Rory. Not saying I would play that lineup but just played around real quick and if doing multi entries I’d toss it in the ring for sure. Tough week to build with just 30 players. But GL.
 

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I added a pretty big Hatton over Im matchup as well. Mostly a fade of Im but also Hatton has had some success on DR courses.
Also put $10 on him 100/1 hahahaha. Lighting money on fire but whatever.

Nothing wrong with that. I think many guys are worth $10 at these big odds. They just need to be around after 2 rounds for you to live bet other guys. Almost like some cheap insurance.

HC do you feel like everyone is on Webb? Seems that way to me.

JT shot E -2 +1 -2 last year and finished 3rd -13
Rahm shot +2 -2 +2 -2 last year finished

These greens looked really fast today on charity round. Guys up top that have these built in leads may get a bit tight in style of play and get caught slipping on these greens.
 

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Nothing wrong with that. I think many guys are worth $10 at these big odds. They just need to be around after 2 rounds for you to live bet other guys. Almost like some cheap insurance.

HC do you feel like everyone is on Webb? Seems that way to me.

JT shot E -2 +1 -2 last year and finished 3rd -13
Rahm shot +2 -2 +2 -2 last year finished

These greens looked really fast today on charity round. Guys up top that have these built in leads may get a bit tight in style of play and get caught slipping on these greens.

IDK really, I mean everyone ITT is on Webb it seems, but I doubt we're representative of the public at large in that respect. Guessing Bryson, Rahm getting a fair amount of love.

The more I keep looking the more Finau top 10 +175 is my favorite play.
 

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To win
Webb 12-1
Morikawa 21-1
Berger 26-1


No Hole in One -110
Playoff +600

Top Non USA/Euro
Munoz +750
Ancer +1100

Top 5
English 6-1
Im 9-1
Todd 9-1
Hatton 10-1
Kisner 15-1
Ancer 19-1

I think the win bet value will come after day 2. Hitting fairways and good fast/Bermuda putting key imo

Fairways accuracy ranks
Todd
Webb
Kisner
Morikawa
Berger
Ancer

Total Putting
Webb
Kisner
Bison
Rahm
English
Berger

GIR
Webb
English
Xander
Rahm
Niemman
Hatton

SG Approach
Thomas
Morikawa
Deki
Niemman
Webb
Hatton

Scrambling
Berger
Todd
English
Webb
Xander
Ancer

Based off these stats

Webb Morikawa English Berger stand out the most.

GL to any darts thrown this week!
 

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Big GPP or Cash?

if playing a big GPP and on DK then make a lineup with like $2k on the table. If it’s a big GPP then so many guys mass entry it they will have all the combos with just 30 golfers. You will have to have the winner and guys who outs ore finishing positions. Guys who will birdie streak and be aggressive to score. A guy like IM will go hunt but he will make some bogies also. For example, player styles risk vs reward

Todd can punch a 3 birdies 2 bogeys scorecard Friday. Be in 6th place
Im can punch a 7 birdies 5 bogeys 1 Dbl be in 15th and still have more points than Todd


No it is one entry between 50 buddies 20 dollar buy in. Winner takes all.
 

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To win
Webb 12-1
Morikawa 21-1
Berger 26-1


No Hole in One -110
Playoff +600

Top Non USA/Euro
Munoz +750
Ancer +1100

Top 5
English 6-1
Im 9-1
Todd 9-1
Hatton 10-1
Kisner 15-1
Ancer 19-1

I think the win bet value will come after day 2. Hitting fairways and good fast/Bermuda putting key imo

Fairways accuracy ranks
Todd
Webb
Kisner
Morikawa
Berger
Ancer

Total Putting
Webb
Kisner
Bison
Rahm
English
Berger

GIR
Webb
English
Xander
Rahm
Niemman
Hatton

SG Approach
Thomas
Morikawa
Deki
Niemman
Webb
Hatton

Scrambling
Berger
Todd
English
Webb
Xander
Ancer

Based off these stats

Webb Morikawa English Berger stand out the most.

GL to any darts thrown this week!

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Maybe throw a dart at Xander Schaufflee.....
a dart? he'll be one of the highest, maybe THE highest, owned player in fantasy this week. It will either be him, Berger, or Finau for ownership
 

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No it is one entry between 50 buddies 20 dollar buy in. Winner takes all.
if you need a birdie machine with massive upside that can both win the tourney and the Tour you've gotta start with Bryson for fantasy. I'm not playing him because I do h2h and T5/T10 but he's got way more ceiling then others at his range and is the only one projected to be owned by <20% that are truly elite.

from the middle tiers i would go with Todd and Hatton, skip Kisner and Im. Todd and Im will have similar ownership but Todd is both in-form and has led the most rounds on the PGA tour. Im's head is a mess and he's one of the few players in the field with a YTD SG:APP losing strokes to the field...horrible match for a SG:APP course

from lower tier I'd go palmer, na, or lanto. Of those Kevin Na is the guy that can consistently go low (27th Birdie %) but Palmer is most consistent. Na would be the "risk/reward" guy you're looking for

My pick to win this thing is JT, 2nd would be Webb so if you like Webb then start with Webb>Bryson>Todd or Hatton>Na

Bryson is the total wild card in this thing. He's as likely to win the Tour Championship as he is to finish 20th but will have lowest ownership of the elite golfers
 

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Maybe throw a dart at Xander Schaufflee.....

great track record at East lake. Also, conditions should be much more benign, rough is at 2.5 inches .

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the 2 par 5's need to be taken adv of, they r there for the taking

14th is a fuckin beast

Rory is certainly tough to back, lol;


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No it is one entry between 50 buddies 20 dollar buy in. Winner takes all.

Then scratch the leave salary lol. That’s a nice size tournament and between buddies is cool as hell. Winner take all makes for a nice size prize. I assumed you meant DK tournament, the big ones with 100k entries. I was giving info/opinions towards that scenario. You don’t have to worry about ownership now. More of a cash game build is ideal for that size.

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a dart? he'll be one of the highest, maybe THE highest, owned player in fantasy this week. It will either be him, Berger, or Finau for ownership
BillyHo edged out X-man for highest ownership %

as expected wild card Bryguy lowest ownership among the elites

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Go JT!

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