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Not the toughest schedule but you must of forgot the beat down last weak at Msu. Might not win but this team has the atheletes to play with anyone. Will only get better next yr.

All I'm saying is when you have a soft schedule like OSU, FSU, Oregon, a loss should set you far back from the pack where teams play much more difficult schedules. If OSU was undefeated right now, no doubt a playoff team, just like FSU. I just don't think OSU has any business being in the playoff discussion.
 

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What is with all the love for Ohio St? They've played a complete cupcake of a schedule. A 2 loss SEC team should make it in above them.

ak i think you just hate ohio state but at this point they are just as deserving as anyone being mentioned in the #4 spot, that is why so many are talking about them.. your blinded by your hate, but to each his own...

i will be the first to say the Big 10 has been horrible as a whole but I would put their top 3 of tOSU, MSU, and Wisky against the ACC, Big12, and Pac12 top 3 and they would be just as competitive as any other. Their remains one constant powerhouse in college football and that is Bama.. everyone else is just playing for a shot at them. FSU just happens to luckily coming from behind to beat a bunch of bad teams.

Going in to this weekend FSU, Baylor, and Ohio State's schedule's were probably all about the same as far as strenght. I am guessing after this weeks games Ohio States schedule would be ranked the toughest of the 3 as OSU played 25 ranked minny, fsu played another unranked, and balyors could only get worse because of thier out of conference. So in regards to comment about their schedule it has not been one of the best but I think when this weeks Sagarin comes out tOSU should be ranked above FSU, Baylor with regard to schedule strength.
 

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All I'm saying is when you have a soft schedule like OSU, FSU, Oregon, a loss should set you far back from the pack where teams play much more difficult schedules. If OSU was undefeated right now, no doubt a playoff team, just like FSU. I just don't think OSU has any business being in the playoff discussion.

Also not sure how you say Oregon has played a soft schedule, last week it was ranked 22 and TCU 23 so I guess TCU should be out of the conversation?
 

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Arkansas has lost to

Auburn
Georgia
Miss St
Alabama
Texas A&M

Other than A&M all those teams would be favorites against any PAC-12 team.

You are out of your mind. Oregon would easily defeat any of those teams. Do not try to deny that you are a huge SEC homer. What happened last year homer? The same thing that is going to happen this year. Arkansas is big and SLOW. They do not go .500 in the Pac 12. Stop lying about not being a SEC homer. You are so obvious that it is really pathetic.

Now read and learn something boys and girls. If Florida State wins out, they are the #1 team in the nation. If 'Bama and Oregon win out, they rank 2-3 or 3-2. The only difference is who gets to wear their home uni's (whatever Oregon's uni's are). That means that Florida State gets to play whoever ends up at #4. Here is the problem. Does the Committee go with legitimate conference champions or teams that do not even play in a CC game. Baylor and TCU do not have a CC game. Miss. State must defeat Ole Miss at Ole Miss to have any chance. That leaves, believe it or not, Ohio State, who should cruise past Indiana and Michigan, and Wisconsin in the Big 10 CC game. So which way does the Committee go? You know that Florida State wants the easiest opponent possible. Ohio State fills the bill rather easily, if they run the table. They will be a legitimate Conference champ. Their SOS will be tougher than Baylor's who wins the Big 12 Championship by rule. They will also have more wins that Baylor, TCU, and Miss. State. The Committee is very political, depite what they want to say. Do not be suprised if the #4 team is a suprise.
 

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You are out of your mind. Oregon would easily defeat any of those teams. Do not try to deny that you are a huge SEC homer. What happened last year homer? The same thing that is going to happen this year. Arkansas is big and SLOW. They do not go .500 in the Pac 12. Stop lying about not being a SEC homer. You are so obvious that it is really pathetic.

Now read and learn something boys and girls. If Florida State wins out, they are the #1 team in the nation. If 'Bama and Oregon win out, they rank 2-3 or 3-2. The only difference is who gets to wear their home uni's (whatever Oregon's uni's are). That means that Florida State gets to play whoever ends up at #4. Here is the problem. Does the Committee go with legitimate conference champions or teams that do not even play in a CC game. Baylor and TCU do not have a CC game. Miss. State must defeat Ole Miss at Ole Miss to have any chance. That leaves, believe it or not, Ohio State, who should cruise past Indiana and Michigan, and Wisconsin in the Big 10 CC game. So which way does the Committee go? You know that Florida State wants the easiest opponent possible. Ohio State fills the bill rather easily, if they run the table. They will be a legitimate Conference champ. Their SOS will be tougher than Baylor's who wins the Big 12 Championship by rule. They will also have more wins that Baylor, TCU, and Miss. State. The Committee is very political, depite what they want to say. Do not be suprised if the #4 team is a suprise.

Lmao!! I almost threw up reading this! Oregon would "easily" defeat anyone of those teams? You're insane.
 

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ak i think you just hate ohio state but at this point they are just as deserving as anyone being mentioned in the #4 spot, that is why so many are talking about them.. your blinded by your hate, but to each his own...

i will be the first to say the Big 10 has been horrible as a whole but I would put their top 3 of tOSU, MSU, and Wisky against the ACC, Big12, and Pac12 top 3 and they would be just as competitive as any other. Their remains one constant powerhouse in college football and that is Bama.. everyone else is just playing for a shot at them. FSU just happens to luckily coming from behind to beat a bunch of bad teams.

Going in to this weekend FSU, Baylor, and Ohio State's schedule's were probably all about the same as far as strenght. I am guessing after this weeks games Ohio States schedule would be ranked the toughest of the 3 as OSU played 25 ranked minny, fsu played another unranked, and balyors could only get worse because of thier out of conference. So in regards to comment about their schedule it has not been one of the best but I think when this weeks Sagarin comes out tOSU should be ranked above FSU, Baylor with regard to schedule strength.

First off, I don't hate any teams. Just an objective observer. Minny has also benefited from an extremely soft schedule and I'm sure Miami will be ranked ahead of them by the end of the season. And second of all OSU lost. Comparing them to FSU is not even a reasonable discussion.
 

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Two things will interest me if the pieces fall in the wrong places. If the SEC can get a team with 2 losses into the playoff. If they do it will set a precedent for here on that no matter what the SEC does during the regular season, they will get a team into the playoff. And second if the Big 12 can get a one loss 11-1 team in over a a one loss 12-1 team from another conference. Personally, I hope the Big 12 doesn't get in with a one loss team since I've been wanting the Big 12 to go back to 12 teams. If they get left out of the big picture it will prove the powers that be in this conference to be wrong over their theory that we are at an advantage without a conference playoff game. Of course I won't lie, if this was Oklahoma with an 11-1 record I would be begging for that 4th playoff slot. But with TCU and Baylor I could care less. I don't know about Oregon or FSU, but I know Bama is better than those two teams.
 

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Two things will interest me if the pieces fall in the wrong places. If the SEC can get a team with 2 losses into the playoff. If they do it will set a precedent for here on that no matter what the SEC does during the regular season, they will get a team into the playoff. And second if the Big 12 can get a one loss 11-1 team in over a a one loss 12-1 team from another conference. Personally, I hope the Big 12 doesn't get in with a one loss team since I've been wanting the Big 12 to go back to 12 teams. If they get left out of the big picture it will prove the powers that be in this conference to be wrong over their theory that we are at an advantage without a conference playoff game. Of course I won't lie, if this was Oklahoma with an 11-1 record I would be begging for that 4th playoff slot. But with TCU and Baylor I could care less. I don't know about Oregon or FSU, but I know Bama is better than those two teams.

So level of competition means nothing to you? Might as well put Marshall in.
 

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So level of competition means nothing to you? Might as well put Marshall in.
It depends on how many losses they have at that level. If your playing at that level and not winning 11 or 12 games a season, does that make you any better than the rest? Like I said, a precedent will be set if Bama and Miss St should lose again and still get in. I don't think that will happen, but it could.
 

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It depends on how many losses they have at that level. If your playing at that level and not winning 11 or 12 games a season, does that make you any better than the rest? Like I said, a precedent will be set if Bama and Miss St should lose again and still get in. I don't think that will happen, but it could.

I don't think it will be a precedent at all. Anyone who watched any football at all this year should realize that regardless of the losses, the SEC should be represented in the playoffs. Might change next year. But this year, it's not even close who the most talented teams in the country are. They just all happen to play in the same conference.
 

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I don't think it will be a precedent at all. Anyone who watched any football at all this year should realize that regardless of the losses, the SEC should be represented in the playoffs. Might change next year. But this year, it's not even close who the most talented teams in the country are. They just all happen to play in the same conference.
They are playing in the same conference against each other. You don't know how well they will perform outside of their division or conference. Your just guessing at it. So how many SEC wins are good enough for you 10? 9? 8? Or does it matter to you. "Just put in an SEC team because I'm a homer."
 

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They are playing in the same conference against each other. You don't know how well they will perform outside of their division or conference. Your just guessing at it. So how many SEC wins are good enough for you 10? 9? 8? Or does it matter to you. "Just put in an SEC team because I'm a homer."

You can see their talent. It's not a guess. They have bigger, faster, and more talented players than any other conference. And they SEC West is 26-0 Ooc! You have to have some ability to gauge talent. Can't just depend on inter-conference records.
 

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So level of competition means nothing to you?

Florida St is the current AP #1 but doesn't have a win against anyone currently in the AP top 25, show me one win for them that could be considered a quality win.
 

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You can see their talent. It's not a guess. They have bigger, faster, and more talented players than any other conference. And they SEC West is 26-0 Ooc! You have to have some ability to gauge talent. Can't just depend on inter-conference records.
The SEC had a good ooc record last year too, like they do every year against mostly cupcakes. But who won the BCS title last year? A team from one of the weakest if not THE weakest conferences in the country. So those ooc wins really didn't prove anything did it?
 

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First off, I don't hate any teams. Just an objective observer. Minny has also benefited from an extremely soft schedule and I'm sure Miami will be ranked ahead of them by the end of the season. And second of all OSU lost. Comparing them to FSU is not even a reasonable discussion.
There is no way on hell that you are an "objectivve observer" nor do you have a clue when oot comes to what the Committee may do. You are a homer. I will be looking for you when Alabama loses to Oregon. You are going to have a lot of explaining to do. You can start by explaining the easy non-con schedule that teams like Alabama face. West Virginia, Florida Atlantic, Southern Miss, and FCS Western Carolina is as chicken as it gets. The SEC is so afraid of the Pac 12 that they will NOT schedule a game with them. ANY Pac 12 team. They know what would happen. That is why they shy away from the tough teams. They cannot defeat them.
 

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Florida St is the current AP #1 but doesn't have a win against anyone currently in the AP top 25, show me one win for them that could be considered a quality win.

You can put Bama and Miss St ahead of them. I don't care. But comparing them to a 1 loss OSU or Oregon team who have played equally or softer schedules than FSU is crazy. If FSU lost a game I wouldn't even consider them.
 

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There is no way on hell that you are an "objectivve observer" nor do you have a clue when oot comes to what the Committee may do. You are a homer. I will be looking for you when Alabama loses to Oregon. You are going to have a lot of explaining to do. You can start by explaining the easy non-con schedule that teams like Alabama face. West Virginia, Florida Atlantic, Southern Miss, and FCS Western Carolina is as chicken as it gets. The SEC is so afraid of the Pac 12 that they will NOT schedule a game with them. ANY Pac 12 team. They know what would happen. That is why they shy away from the tough teams. They cannot defeat them.

Lol, only extreme haters would say Oregon could beat the top 5 SEC teams easily. They have a very soft schedule and have not looked that good at all. I don't even think you watch football.
 

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The SEC had a good ooc record last year too, like they do every year against mostly cupcakes. But who won the BCS title last year? A team from one of the weakest if not THE weakest conferences in the country. So those ooc wins really didn't prove anything did it?

Lol, that FSU team was the best team in the country. Probably one of the greatest teams in NCAA history. Not really sure what point you are trying to make. If Oregon or some Big-12 team was dismantling teams like FSU you last year, they probably would beat the best SEC team. But there's not. The big-12, big-10, and PAC-12 are all on down years. No team that you can possibly compare to last years FSU team.
 

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Lol, that FSU team was the best team in the country. Probably one of the greatest teams in NCAA history. Not really sure what point you are trying to make. If Oregon or some Big-12 team was dismantling teams like FSU you last year, they probably would beat the best SEC team. But there's not. The big-12, big-10, and PAC-12 are all on down years. No team that you can possibly compare to last years FSU team.
Then by that theory lets let Marshall in the playoffs...
 

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Then by that theory lets let Marshall in the playoffs...

By what theory? That FSU dominated their opponents last year means Marshall dominating the likes of Rice, MTSU, and Old Dominion are the same? Lmao. You need to have some intelligence to discuss football.
 

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